Delayed/Selective vaxing- ? on very first vax

[mom2angelbabies]

We're starting my baby girl's vax's at her 4-month appt. My question is, I'm not positive on which vax we want to start with first- we're doing 1 shot at a time, once a month. I'm trying to find out which would be most important to have in the area we live in (Eastern Oregon/SW Idaho).

So could any other moms who delay/selectively vax tell me which vax you started with and why? Thanks!!

[alegna]

It all depends on WHY you're vaccinating. Have you researched all the diseases? Have you researched all the vaccines? Do you know which ones can and can't be split? (hint you CAN'T do them all one at a time...)

It sounds like you have a lot more research to do before you start injecting things into your baby.

-Angela

[bluets]

If you're set on doing vaxes, I suggest delaying until your dc is 2 years old. Otherwise, I'm now sufficiently convinced that vaxes aren't necessary and are, in fact, dangerous.

The shots you'd be giving aren't really "just one at a time". They actually cover sometimes 2,3, 4, or more diseases (unless you are really adamant and CAN get really only one at a time) - so how do you know which one causes the reaction if a reaction occurs?

[mom2angelbabies]

Thanks, but I have done my research, and I'm a nurse and come from a medical family, all of whom encourage NOT following the CDC vax schedule. It's far from a foreign issue to us. I don't feel the need to have to explain my reasons, I'm simply asking for people to share what their first vax was.

And yes, they'll be one at a time- we're splitting up the combined vax's.

Thank you.

[MommyDOK]

Are you bf? I wouldn't really worry about pertussis unless I weren't bf (it can't be broken up anyway). I wouldn't worry about tetanus until she's walking either. I wouldn't worry about polio unless you live in a very international community and are going to the pool/lake often. Myself, I am worried about polio (my dad had polio and is crippled in one leg from it). I wouldn't worry about hep b until she is older too.
So that leaves chicken pox and hib, which she will have your immunity if you are bf and had the disease. What about hib? I don't know much about that one. They don't give the mmr until they're one year either. I know cogforlife have been working hard on breaking that vax up.

It might help if I knew which ones you are going to do? Are you going to do the flu? I wouldn't worry about that one in the summer, but that's just me.

[mom2angelbabies]

MommyDOK,

Thank you for your reply. Yes, I'm EBF'ing around the clock (and hope & plan to do so for at least a 18 months). We declined HepB at birth and will delay it further, and we're refusing varicella and the flu vaccine. I, too, am concerned about polio for family history reasons similar to yours...and like you said, I do plan on delaying pertussis a while longer as well.

[alegna]

Well if you've done your research, you will know that several can't be split. So let us know which you are considering for her first ones and why and we'll see what info we can turn up to help with your decision.

-Angela

[alegna]

Originally Posted by mom2angelbabies

I'm simply asking for people to share what their first vax was.

I planned to selectively vax on a delayed schedule. I began researching with that in mind- to choose which to do when. As I researched each disease and the vaccines it became clear that statistically the risk of the vaccines far outweighed the risk of the diseases. What schedule did I decide on? None. What vax did I do first? None.

There's my experience.

-Angela

[sophiekat]

we've done the DTaP for dd. We won't do any more until she's at least 2. If you'd like to chat feel free to pm me.

[Jen123]

You've declined Hep B , flu and chicken pox....

That leaves us with
Diptheria
Tetanus
Pertussis
Polio
Hib
Prevnar
Rotateq
Measles
Mumps
Rubella
Hep A

At four months old , the recommended schedule is
DTaP , Polio , Hib , Prevnar , RotaTeq...and catch up on anything she missed.

You said you are nursing ?
I wouldn't give her anything at all until she's done nursing at 18months or so. She's getting all she needs thru your breastmilk. It has amazing healing properties and gives immunity that a shot cannot.

I'd also check the state laws and see what is EXACTLY recommend for school/daycare.

[earthmama369]

We started the HiB at 6 months and spaced it out by the standard separation -- 2-3 months apart, usually -- through the 4-shot series. That's the only one we've done to date. (DD is almost 18 months.) Based on my research and talking it over with our F.P., that one had the lowest incidence rate of side effects and the least serious ones, and unlike some other vaxes (ahem, varicella), it actually offered protective benefits that I wanted dd to have. Our doctor didn't recommend any other vaxes and I didn't find any others that I felt were worth the potential health risks.

Every kiddo's different, but for what it's worth, we nursed through each injection and she never flinched or seemed bothered by it at all, and she didn't evidence any short-term side effects afterward.

We'll probably follow the same schedule with ds when he's born -- a delayed start to the HiB, and then an exemption filed on the rest.

[MommyDOK]

I just wanted to say that maybe someone on these boards can recommend a homeopathy or something to give when you vax too. I've heard of such a thing.

Since you are bf, I wanted to tell you that my MD told me that the studies on infant death from these diseases are on formula fed babies. I didn't see any studies, but that is what her research told her. She waited until her children were walking and talking before she did any.

I know it's a tough decision---

[caedmyn]

I'm a non-vaxer, but based on your criteria, I would go with either polio or Hib. As far as I know you can't get diptheria & tetanus separate for a baby, and since a baby has no chance of getting tetanus, there's no reason to give that one early. Pertussis is very reactive, so I'd wait on that, also. Prevar I don't know much about, but I think that is also fairly reactive. And MMR isn't recommended until later. So that leaves polio or hib. Are you doing a different one each time until she is caught up, or are you finishing each initial series before starting on the next? I would probably either do all of the initial polio doses before starting hib, or alternate polio and hib until the initial series of each is done, and then go on to whatever you want to do next. JMO

[alegna]

Another thought- you weren't vaxed with prevnar or Hib. Were you ever scared of them? Was your mom? New vaxes were the first ones I crossed off my list.

-Angela

[newcastlemama]

Originally Posted by bluets

If you're set on doing vaxes, I suggest delaying until your dc is 2 years old. Otherwise, I'm now sufficiently convinced that vaxes aren't necessary and are, in fact, dangerous.

I just went to a Vaccine Seminar at my local health food store...he (the chiro) said that Japan delayed vax until 2 years and their SIDS cases plummetted....before they were comparable to USA. I am taking this into consideration with future children...

[caedmyn]

Originally Posted by newcastlemama

I just went to a Vaccine Seminar at my local health food store...he (the chiro) said that Japan delayed vax until 2 years and their SIDS cases plummetted....before they were comparable to USA. I am taking this into consideration with future children...

Just FYI, MT posted on another thread that this is actually a myth...Japan delayed pertussis vax until 2 years and SIDS went down but they do the rest of their vaxes on schedule.

[ChristinaLucia]

My Ped said if I was going to skip on vax - she felt the Hib one was the one to skip.

[Apwannabe]

I would wait till two also.

when we were delaying we started with DTaP and polio. i got most of my info from Staphanie cave's book. He got his first shots at 2 months, second set at 4 months and third and last at 6 months. It took me three rounds to realize that he was only having breathing problems in the weeks following his immunizations. We haven't vaxed since.