percentage of intact vs. circumcised in 2005?

[caedmyn]

Can someone give me statistics on percentage of intact vs. circumcised babies born in 2005? Also, I've heard that circumcision rates are declining...any statistics on that?

[a_work_in_progress]

[Revamp]

This is the only article dealing with 2005 rates that I have found: http://www.cirp.org/news/morganhilltimes06-14-05/

2003 seems to be the latest national rates get, or at least those to be found upon the internet.

[Belle]

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[Revamp]

Here is one that goes to '03: http://www.cirp.org/library/statistics/USA/

Seems to be the very latest I can find, sorry.

[Gatsby]

How long did it take before the 2003 information was released? If it was more than a year, there's an odd lack of recent information.

[Revamp]

Like I said it might just be the stuff available online, or perhaps just the stuff available online that I was capable of finding.

[caedmyn]

Maybe I'll wait until 2004's stats come out and hopefully the number will go down even more--it would be nice to be able to tell DH that 1/2 of the baby boys born in the US aren't circumcised.

[Revamp]

I hope so too!

When we are talking sociological trends once something hits 50-50 in either direction things tend to move fast. Once people become aware of the low rates we should be on a home straight, only things that could get in the way of that are further HIV/AIDs "Research" indicating circumcision being safer against STIs or/and a shift of position from the AAP.

In fact considering the AAP review most major pieces of policy once a decade (due roughly 2009), that those HIV studies are due to be made public in '07 and the gap between years and circ rates being made public there is a chance that both pieces of information could be released around the same time.

The results of that occurance would be downright fascinating.

[A&A]

Originally Posted by Revamp

When we are talking sociological trends once something hits 50-50 in either direction things tend to move fast. Once people become aware of the low rates we should be on a home straight, only things that could get in the way of that are further HIV/AIDs "Research" indicating circumcision being safer against STIs or/and a shift of position from the AAP.

True, but the rates/perceived rates vary widely across the country. When my brother was considering whether or not not circ his son, a L & D nurse told him that the circ rate is 99.9% in our state, (which is absurd in any state.) Whether or not she actually believed that, I don't know. But my brother went ahead and circ'd his son. So, even if the rate drops quickly nationally, I can see pockets of high-circ rates holding stubbornly.

And, it's not just HIV/AAP getting in the way.........it's the BLING BLING generated by circ........by doctors, biomed companies, etc.

[Revamp]

Originally Posted by A&A

True, but the rates/perceived rates vary widely across the country. When my brother was considering whether or not not circ his son, a L & D nurse told him that the circ rate is 99.9% in our state, (which is absurd in any state.) Whether or not she actually believed that, I don't know. But my brother went ahead and circ'd his son. So, even if the rate drops quickly nationally, I can see pockets of high-circ rates holding stubbornly.

And, it's not just HIV/AAP getting in the way.........it's the BLING BLING generated by circ........by doctors, biomed companies, etc.

I know that they vary locally but a full national rate of less that 50% is bound to have some impact and even if it does not affect all making the choice these things are accumulative so it shall soon enough.

And the only reason they make money is due to demand, demand drops and thus so does their incentive.

[A&A]

Originally Posted by Revamp

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And the only reason they make money is due to demand, demand drops and thus so does their incentive.

But biomed companies (who need the foreskins for skin grafts, etc.,) will create "demand" by perpetuating the HIV myth, etc.

[the_lissa]

It depends on where you live. The national rate in Canada is 13% circ, but the provincial rate varies wildly from 1.1% to 29%

[Gatsby]

Originally Posted by Revamp

I know that they vary locally but a full national rate of less that 50% is bound to have some impact and even if it does not affect all making the choice these things are accumulative so it shall soon enough.

And the only reason they make money is due to demand, demand drops and thus so does their incentive.

Yes, but there are still pockets even in Canada. I think Essex County, Ontario, had quoted rates in the 70 percent range (but I've seen more recent ones that peg it around 50).

[the_lissa]

Wow, that is nuts. I did find those rates for Essex Counyt, but it was for 1994. The overall ONtario rate for 2003 was less than 20%, so I imagine the rates even in that county would have had to come down quite a bit. I wonder why that count has such a high rate. My county has the lowest rate according to that same study. (http://www.circlist.com/rites/canada.html)

[Gatsby]

Originally Posted by the_lissa

Wow, that is nuts. I did find those rates for Essex Counyt, but it was for 1994. The overall ONtario rate for 2003 was less than 20%, so I imagine the rates even in that county would have had to come down quite a bit. I wonder why that count has such a high rate. My county has the lowest rate according to that same study. (http://www.circlist.com/rites/canada.html)

Good question. I guess the stats I have are only for one Windsor hospital, not the entire county - which means it could be in the 60s. Eek.

The difference between Hamilton-Wentworth (2%) and Essex is really quite striking. It makes you wonder what the variances within the U.S. states are too.

Reading that circlist page really is quite depressing...such venom.

[the_lissa]

Ugh I hadn't read the comments.