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post #21 of 32
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Originally Posted by QueenOfThePride
*equally baffled*

Cognitive dissonance?
That sorta...Falls short of it...

I mean...What, is it part of the forehead?

*shakes head*

Society's stupidity seems to render its components stupid, no matter how immense the lapses of logic this requires.
post #22 of 32
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Originally Posted by phatchristy
On another note....I sometimes do call the intact penis a "natural penis"...I don't think they could argue against that one as it is a definite that their son was born that way.
I've heard numerous women say they had a "natural childbirth" when they were in fact flat on their backs with multiple interventions and drugs, but because the baby came out vaginally (forget the monitor stuck in the baby's head or the suction cup attached) the birth was "natural." Denial is SO strong.
post #23 of 32
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Originally Posted by ColoradoMama
I've heard numerous women say they had a "natural childbirth" when they were in fact flat on their backs with multiple interventions and drugs, but because the baby came out vaginally (forget the monitor stuck in the baby's head or the suction cup attached) the birth was "natural." Denial is SO strong.
Looking at my siggy, I can definitely say I have heard women use that term natural to mean vaginal.

However, there are a lot of different variables in a birth...

we have completely unmedicated labors, augmented labors with pain medication, augmented labors without, assisted vaginal birth...etc.

I tend to think that it is more clear cut with the status of the penis.

The choice is either natural or circumcised. Or, intact or surgically altered.

Sometimes I actually use that term with some women I am on a group with. I am very pro-intact there, and once shared some natural man pictures of them....and one just flipped out. She described the type of man she liked...which basically came out to being hairless and surgically altered. :
post #24 of 32
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Originally Posted by phatchristy
Sometimes I actually use that term with some women I am on a group with. I am very pro-intact there, and once shared some natural man pictures of them....and one just flipped out. She described the type of man she liked...which basically came out to being hairless and surgically altered. :
Personally I have never really seen why your opinion of a aesthetics should affect what your child's penis looks like.

Just seems odd to me.
post #25 of 32
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Originally Posted by Revamp
Personally I have never really seen why your opinion of a aesthetics should affect what your child's penis looks like.

Just seems odd to me.
Yep--I don't get that either AT ALL! We are born perfect the way we're born! :
post #26 of 32
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Originally Posted by phatchristy
Yep--I don't get that either AT ALL! We are born perfect the way we're born! :
But even if you do not agree with that (and I am none too sure) you should at least realise that what form of penis you find arousing does not really matter that much when it comes to your own son.

Or at least it should not...
post #27 of 32
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Originally Posted by Revamp
But even if you do not agree with that (and I am none too sure) you should at least realise that what form of penis you find arousing does not really matter that much when it comes to your own son.

Or at least it should not...
Yep, I would agree. But this woman was WAY over the top the way she described things...she also has expressed to her that she thought her son's penis was disgusting as they had left over half the foreskin after his circ. She was completely unreachable....even when I explained to her the differences in sensation, etc...her response to that was "don't men feel enough as it is?"

At least she didn't discover that people recirc, because I'll bet if she found that out she would have redone it!
post #28 of 32
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Originally Posted by phatchristy
Yep, I would agree. But this woman was WAY over the top the way she described things...she also has expressed to her that she thought her son's penis was disgusting as they had left over half the foreskin after his circ. She was completely unreachable....even when I explained to her the differences in sensation, etc...her response to that was "don't men feel enough as it is?"

At least she didn't discover that people recirc, because I'll bet if she found that out she would have redone it!
Ugh!

Just imagine if the situation was inverted and a man had said the same of his daughter!

For once I am thankful for her ignorance, at least that it was total enough for her knowledge not to include the possibility of a second round of mutilation...
post #29 of 32
If the foreskin is not part of the penis, what is it a part of? Teeth? Toes? Navel? It just flabbergasts me that people are so ignorant about normal human anatomy.

I don't know how anyone could consent to having any normal part of their baby cut off no matter what part of the body it is.
post #30 of 32
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Originally Posted by kimkabob5
I don't know how anyone could consent to having any normal part of their baby cut off no matter what part of the body it is.
They see it as a risk...
post #31 of 32
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Originally Posted by Revamp
They see it as a risk...
Ugh, being alive is a risk. They need to wake up.
post #32 of 32
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Originally Posted by kimkabob5
Ugh, being alive is a risk. They need to wake up.
They will not.

I would leave them snoozing without a care if innocent children were not suffering so severely as a consequence...
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