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post #1 of 28
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Konur has a very swollen gland and other signs of the mumps and we are in a state where there are cases of mumps popping up. I took him to the Dr today, because he has had a fever for 8 days and nothing else is helping ie homeopathy, naturalpathy, ect. The Dr perscribed antibiotics and while I dont generally use them, I am because of this ginormous glad in his neck and that nothing else is working. He could not get a swab, so is presuming its strep with an infected lymph and not the mumps, we will know in 24-48 hours if he doesnt respond to the meds.

I am feeling guilt over not vaxing him for this, but I know I would feel more guilty if I had vaxed and he had a reaction to the vax.

I know logically that if this is the mumps that chances are he will be fine, but its keeping me up at night thinking what if. We dont vax for a reason, but I cant help second guessing myself right now.

I also know I will catch heck from my fam if he has it and we have not vaxed him for it.

Has anyone else had a child who contracted (or you thought might have) an illness that they could have been vaxed for?

I guess I am looking for some general support and maybe some BDTD.
post #2 of 28
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Originally Posted by Konur's Mom
Konur has a very swollen gland and other signs of the mumps and we are in a state where there are cases of mumps popping up.
I'm still scratching my head here. If he has symptoms of mumps, then why wasn't he tested for mumps?

And why did the doctor give him an antibiotic knowing he may have a probable case of mumps . . . which is a virus?

Why on earth are you feeling guilty . . . you don't even know if it's mumps . . . or strep for that matter.
post #3 of 28
I wouldn't stress about it. There wasn't a vax for mumps when I was growing up. We all got it. My memory is of being able to eat nothing but icecream & jelly so no worries there

I'd get some sodium ascorbate powder into ds & keep the fluids up.
post #4 of 28
Lots of things can cause swollen glands, so keep that in mind.

Good luck and hang in there. I know it's hard to see your child sick ((hugs)) and you just want them to feel better. Hope he starts feeling better soon.
post #5 of 28
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Originally Posted by LongIsland
I'm still scratching my head here. If he has symptoms of mumps, then why wasn't he tested for mumps?

And why did the doctor give him an antibiotic knowing he may have a probable case of mumps . . . which is a virus?

Why on earth are you feeling guilty . . . you don't even know if it's mumps . . . or strep for that matter.
Gee, thanks, I said I was looking for support.

He thinks its bacterial and not viral, thus this antibiotic. There are no cases in my area, but there are in my state. He said it was more likely strep and not the mumps.

Thank-you to everyone else who WAS supportive.
post #6 of 28
DD had pertussis as a baby. I don't feel guilty at all.
post #7 of 28
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Originally Posted by Konur's Mom
Gee, thanks, I said I was looking for support.

He thinks its bacterial and not viral, thus this antibiotic. There are no cases in my area, but there are in my state. He said it was more likely strep and not the mumps.

Thank-you to everyone else who WAS supportive.
She is merely wondering why you allowed a doctor to prescribe antibiotics without having him tested. It could put your child at risk of injury or death.
Some diseases react with antibiotics.

Your doctor should have tested before prescribing medication.
post #8 of 28
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He could not test him because Konur wouldnt let him get a culture in his throat.

I am so sorry I posted here about this for support.

I said i felt guilty and I would like to thank you for making me feel worse, telling me I put my child at risk of death for giving him an antibiotic.



, I wont be back here.
post #9 of 28
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Originally Posted by Konur's Mom
He thinks its bacterial and not viral, thus this antibiotic. There are no cases in my area, but there are in my state. He said it was more likely strep and not the mumps.

He could not test him because Konur wouldnt let him get a culture in his throat.

I am so sorry I posted here about this for support.

I said i felt guilty and I would like to thank you for making me feel worse, telling me I put my child at risk of death for giving him an antibiotic.

, I wont be back here.


OMG - please, stop with the theatrics. Seriously.

If you were not able to do a throat swab, your doctor should have taken a urine sample to test for mumps. But obviously he didn't think it was mumps or else he would have done it.

To put your mind at ease, the Michigan DOH site indicates there's no unusual mumps activity in your state. Actually, your child has a better chance catching pertussis or chicken pox than mumps.

And FTR, my intial post wasn't meant to be unsupportive . . . I was trying to make you see that you shouldn't worry when you don't even know if it's viral or bacterial . . . you don't even know what's wrong with him! Why feel guilty? Even if it were a confirmed case of mumps . . . you shouldn't feel guilty about it.

The only reason why you're feeling guilty is b/c there's a vaccine for mumps . . . an not a very effective vaccine at that.
post #10 of 28
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Originally Posted by Konur's Mom

I also know I will catch heck from my fam if he has it and we have not vaxed him for it.
It's none of their business.

go here:

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...hub=TopStories


Listen to the fourth interview with Dr Neil Rau.

He says that MUMPS is a better vaccine than the vaccine itself.

Konur isn't going to die from mumps, and therefore if it becomes an issue you can say to them, that Dr Henry Rau from the CDC said that Mumps is a better vaccine than the vaccine themselves.

However, for your grandparents, or parents if they are over 40, to verbally berate you would be hypocritical since most of them have probably had mumps and survived to tell you off.

So tell them to stick it they know where, and offer some bean dip.
post #11 of 28
Well, I see that was a waste of time
post #12 of 28
Quote:
Originally Posted by Konur's Mom
He could not test him because Konur wouldnt let him get a culture in his throat.

I am so sorry I posted here about this for support.

I said i felt guilty and I would like to thank you for making me feel worse, telling me I put my child at risk of death for giving him an antibiotic.



, I wont be back here.
We are not causing harm to you or your child. I would suggest getting a new doctor. Your doctor sounds like he is the one putting your child at risk.
post #13 of 28
Well, I'm not sure if this will be construed as supportive or not, but I'm not scared of either mumps or strep...

I'm fairly sure we all had mumps last week and we're doing great.

I didn't do so well with the vaccine when I was a tot or when I was in college, though. So no reason for any guilt.

Hope you guy feels better soon.
post #14 of 28
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by LongIsland
OMG - please, stop with the theatrics. Seriously.

.
You are right, I am sick, too and feel like crap and not making a whole lotta sence.

Thanks everyone, it's hard to break out of the mold of what I am "supposed" to do and how I am supposed to react.

I dont normally send my kids to the Dr, Mali is 2 and never has been to a Dr in her whole life and was born at home. 8 days of a fever, eating and drinking very little, totally miserable, and then the swollen lymph glad got me worried so I went to a professional for help. he is also sugar sensitive so his lack of eating was making him aggressive. I was at my wits end and nothing else was working to help him. It just went on too long and I should have come here before, not after.

I had not idea there was a urine test for mumps, though, thanks for that tip.



I always say and believe that getting what they are vaxed against is better than getting the vax. I was surprised at my reaction of "did I do the wrong thing" and have no place else to post these feelings.

I should have posted them later though, when I am not so sick myself.
post #15 of 28
How's your baby doing?
post #16 of 28
Thread Starter 
He ate tonight and I actually had to ask him to please keep his singing down a little because it was getting too loud. I haven't had to do that in over a week. I didnt realize how much I missed that. He asked me a bunch of pointless questions at dinner, too, so I know he is feeling better. He is sleeping peacefully on my bed as I probably should be.

Thank-you for asking.
post #17 of 28
So do you think it was the antibiotics that helped, or do you think it was viral?
Or do you have no freakin' idea other than being glad he's ok now?
post #18 of 28
I'm glad that your little one is doing better, and hope that you follow suit too. I understand the guilt, I started to question myself when my unvaxed DD got a cold with accompanying cough-it could be pertussis don't you know! My panic only lasted a few hours and then I settled back into my nursing my sick kid as I know I should do role.

You're doing right by him, just give him lots of love and stay positive.
post #19 of 28
I'm also glad he is better!!! I haven't been in your shoes yet, I fully hope to at some time or other... I can't say that I will react the way I want to. I hope to just treat it like any other illness and be glad that the immunity given will be stronger and natural. But I'm sure that I will be flipping out at the same time, esp. with the longer, harder to get over ones like Pertussis. Good on ya' for pulling yourself back together. I can imagine it is hard with the rest of society telling you you're a bad parent for not vaxing and then suspecting your child has their first "vax preventable (hah!)" illness. But now if it were Mumps he has a much stronger immunity and you haven't pumped his body full of nuerotoxins and poisions.
post #20 of 28
When I first saw this thread title I thought it said "Non Vaxing Quilt"... I was all excited trying to think of a block to do.... But I guess it is a good thing it wasn't as I have had no ideas at all.
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