A vent regarding "Recircumcision"

[pdx.mothernurture]

As if some parent's cosmetic obsession with infant penises isn't enough, some parents are so unhappy with their infant's loose circumcision they're having him recircumcised so it's more appealing to them. Offer information showing that these boys will grow into their circumcisions and there's no reason to skin them bare, and they still go through with a second surgery on a tiny baby. I'll never forget awhile back a parent who had TWO recircumcisions...so, three circs total...by the time her son was a year old, to the point where his penis stuck straight out all the time and he needed MORE corrective surgery and creams because it was so tight. What is wrong with people?!?

Some of these same parents are quick to boast their sons are "healthy and circumcised". WHAT? Even when you're having corrective surgery performed for what you perceive as a complication/botched job? Does denial really and truly run THAT deep?

And to top it all off...once they're appeased with a recircumcision, they are so elated and satisfied and smug they call their freshly circumcised, newly wounded son's penis---still swollen, bruised, bloody and wrapped in gauze---"beautiful"?

There really are no words.

Whew. I feel a tiny bit better now.

Jen

[MaryJaneLouise]

I think I just threw up a little in my mouth.

[Revamp]

I believe a woman in a Forum I shall not name but you know well (what with the fact you led me here from it and all ) recently said she had her some "Re-circumcised" (i.e. more extensively mutilated) and it now looked "Right".

Because being the victim of mutilation is obviously the way to be...

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[MommytoB]

Jen,

This is what makes me sick like for example after this mother who son had a loose circ she goes and recirc him then her comment was now he has a normal penis with exposed glans .

How they differentiate of a circ penis to be normal and not a whole intact one normal. Then it so crazy they don't realize they doing "surgery" on their son's to get what is normal. A healthy boy with no problems at all is having his part of his penis destroyed because of a parent preference.

I just don't get it why should a normal healthy boy with no problems at all need to be changed .

[scatterbrainedmom]

sigh. this brings back such HORRIFIC memories for me. my first son is circ and (thankfully!!) it was a very loose circ (most don't realize that he is). before I knew about mothering and AP and natural parenting me and dh actually discussed getting him recirc'd. thank god that i came to my senses and read up on it. it makes me so upset to think what i did to my child and then what i contemplated re-doing!! I just don't understand how, if you know what happens and the risks that you would continue to do something.

[pdx.mothernurture]

I also wanted to add that I'm also angry at the doctors. First, for circumcising in the first place...secondly, for not explaining to parents what to expect so they are 'surprised' when their son doesn't have a tight circ like daddy's...and third, with the doctors who take advantage of these parents and agree to recircumcise, telling them if he isn't done 'properly' the loose circumcision will cause problems later in life.

Arrrggghhh.

Jen

[Revamp]

But if it is allowed once on the parents say so why not twice? Thrice? Ten times?

Hell, skin is so unsexy why not flay the entire glans?

The "Parental Choice" fallacy has only one logical conclusion...

[moonmama7]

Jen -- can you please provide links showing that loose circs will be grown into? I see this come up all the time and would love to be able to point people to good information. thanks.

[pdx.mothernurture]

http://www.rogerknapp.com/medical/circ_incomplete.htm

[Revamp]

Gah...Further ignorance resulting in further mutilation.

Why can people not just learn about the penis before slicing it up?

[ColoradoMama]

While I have been anti-circ from child #1 (who was luckily a girl since dh and I were still arguing about it!), my language has definitely changed on the subject. I really have no issues with telling people that I think circing so that a child's penis will look the way the parents wants it to look is sick and I consider it a form of sexual child abuse. I mean, if I wanted my child's labia trimmed so it would be more attractive - I'd be locked up!

(I think I'm turning into a fanatic! But, I'm in good company, right? )

[Revamp]

Originally Posted by ColoradoMama

I mean, if I wanted my child's labia trimmed so it would be more attractive - I'd be locked up!

How awful!

This should definetely be covered by parental choice, it is a lot easier to keep a trimmed labia clean and just think of all the men who say they prefer it tight!

I think that the erotic preferences of their future partner should definetely come into whether or not we perform cosmetic surgery on our little girl's genitals. Their choice in the matter is irrelevent because they will probably thank us for it and if they ask us why and are unpleased we can just tell them our reasons and they will be perfectly content.

If not, well, they are illogical and have aesthetical views that differ from our own and... Hey, why are you asking anyway? I don't have to defend myself to you! She's my child, my decision, my property! I can do what I want and anyone asking me why is crossing the line!

[ColoradoMama]

So what your sarcasm is saying Revamp is that I AM in good company!

[Revamp]

Originally Posted by ColoradoMama

So what your sarcasm is saying Revamp is that I AM in good company!

Wow, I'm flattered, thanks!

And I haven't even started on the locker-room yet, I can not understand how I failed to mention what a great reason pre-emptive, speculative capitulation to largely ficticious child bullies is for unconsenting surgical genital modification!

[calngavinsmom]

Originally Posted by ColoradoMama

While I have been anti-circ from child #1 (who was luckily a girl since dh and I were still arguing about it!), my language has definitely changed on the subject. I really have no issues with telling people that I think circing so that a child's penis will look the way the parents wants it to look is sick and I consider it a form of sexual child abuse. I mean, if I wanted my child's labia trimmed so it would be more attractive - I'd be locked up!

(I think I'm turning into a fanatic! But, I'm in good company, right? )

s I would love to have more fanatics like you in my personal "company" What you said above makes total sense to me

Tara

[TigerTail]

Originally Posted by Revamp

Hell, skin is so unsexy why not flay the entire glans?

My dear, if you are looking for a sig, I think you just created an erudite & spectacularly concise one. I love that. (Maybe a comma after 'unsexy' ) What an image. (I'm a huge believer in shock value. It should be shocking.)

[Revamp]

Originally Posted by TigerTail

My dear, if you are looking for a sig, I think you just created an erudite & spectacularly concise one. I love that. (Maybe a comma after 'unsexy' ) What an image. (I'm a huge believer in shock value. It should be shocking.)

Thanks!

That is a great idea, I will follow your advice (especially the part about the comma) and thank you for your kind words and I am glad you liked it.

It just seemed the logical conclusion after seeing all the SickList members discuss the benefits of removing as much skin as could possibly be imagined and more, made me wonder why no one was pushing the envelope even further up...