foreskin seperation question

[bugmenot]

I heard that if my son (or a doctor) wants to speed up foreskin seperation, he can lightly pinch the end of the foreskin while he urinates. This will force the foreskin to "balloon", build up pressure, and eventually the urine will come out at a faster rate.

Is this medically safe?

[orangebird]

But why? Why would one want to try to speed seperation? I guess if a kid is messing aroung and doing this to his own penis and it isn't hurting it is probably medically safe, but what is the point?

[bugmenot]

I haven't tried it, just saying that someone apparently thinks it's a good idea.

Obviously not if they're 5 or 6, but if they're 13 or 14, they probably need some cream or something. (My son is well under age 5, so i'm not quite worried about such things yet.)

I can also see the "if it doesn't hurt and he's doing it out of curiosity, it's probably ok." If it does hurt, i'd imagine he'd stop or speak up about it, if it's something he's not deliberately doing.

[Kleine Hexe]

It'll happen when it happens. I know plenty of girls (mostly pre-teen age) who want to speed up the growth rate of their breasts. We've heard of the excersizes. It'll happen when it happens.

[joandsarah77]

There are only a couple of reasons I can think of for needing the foreskin to retract. One to hide stuff in like peas (yes I know someone online whos son did do that!) or two for sex. Which one were you hoping you ds would do? Honestly like the pp why? there is absolutly no need and in fact I think being bonded longer is safer.

[Revamp]

Originally Posted by joandsarah77

There are only a couple of reasons I can think of for needing the foreskin to retract. One to hide stuff in like peas (yes I know someone online whos son did do that!) or two for sex. Which one were you hoping you ds would do? Honestly like the pp why? there is absolutly no need and in fact I think being bonded longer is safer.

Retracting is better for urination, from my experience at least.

[Frankly Speaking]

While this practice probably wouldn't do any damage, there is a small possibility.

The volume of the bladder is enormous in comparison to the preputial space and the preputial space would fill almost instantaneously with considerable pressure. If there are remaining adhesions, there could be problems. If the adhesions were fairly complete, this exercise would probably accomplish little or nothing but if the adhesions were nearly completely broken down and only spots remained, this back pressure could result in some considerable tears in the inner mucosa or the surface of the glans. These tears would likely bleed profusely frightening the child. These tears would also be different from the typical tears of separation in that they would take longer to heal and could possibly cause scar tissue to form between the two surfaces. Also, because the tear would be more extensive, there would be greater liklihood of an infection getting started.

These are all fairly rare occurances but if there is no need, why risk them at all?




Frank

[bugmenot]

Originally Posted by Revamp

Retracting is better for urination, from my experience at least.

Here's my thoughts on that:

If he should retract for urination, then why even have foreskin? If he's not retracting for the first 5 (or maybe more) years of his life, and there's no harm then, then why do it later? Isn't urine sterile? If he shakes it (or even wipes it), then won't that be enough to remove any trapped urine?

I'm not saying "circumcise so he won't have to pull it back", i'm just not seeing any reason to pull it back while urinating, unless he doesn't want his friends to see the foreskin.

joandsarah77 -- You've heard of someone who hid peas in his foreskin? Am I reading that right? Yuck! We're probably better off NOT knowing the exact details.

[MCatLvrMom2A&X]

I think the retracting to urinate thing is personal preference since from what I have read sometimes the urine will go sideways and be a bit more messy. If retracted a bit then the urine has a better chance of coming out straight on. There really is no real need to retract to urinate other than what I just mentioned above.

[bugmenot]

Originally Posted by MRDCatLvr

I think the retracting to urinate thing is personal preference since from what I have read sometimes the urine will go sideways and be a bit more messy. If retracted a bit then the urine has a better chance of coming out straight on. There really is no real need to retract to urinate other than what I just mentioned above.

That's what i've heard as well. Especially since urine from a circumcised penis typically tends to be more of a narrow stream than an uncircumcised. And yes, there are exceptions, hence why I wrote "typically".

[joandsarah77]

joandsarah77 -- You've heard of someone who hid peas in his foreskin? Am I reading that right? Yuck! We're probably better off NOT knowing the exact details

You got it! Well he was only 4, and what better place to hide your peas and make mum think you ate them. : I also heard that he and his brother would tuck pencils up there and 'sword fight'. : a boys greatest toy, right?

[Kleine Hexe]

Now, my 2 yr old stuck peas up his nose but his foreskin? That's a very creative boy.

[Pandora114]

Originally Posted by Frankly Speaking

While this practice probably wouldn't do any damage, there is a small possibility.

The volume of the bladder is enormous in comparison to the preputial space and the preputial space would fill almost instantaneously with considerable pressure. If there are remaining adhesions, there could be problems. If the adhesions were fairly complete, this exercise would probably accomplish little or nothing but if the adhesions were nearly completely broken down and only spots remained, this back pressure could result in some considerable tears in the inner mucosa or the surface of the glans. These tears would likely bleed profusely frightening the child. These tears would also be different from the typical tears of separation in that they would take longer to heal and could possibly cause scar tissue to form between the two surfaces. Also, because the tear would be more extensive, there would be greater liklihood of an infection getting started.

These are all fairly rare occurances but if there is no need, why risk them at all?




Frank

Not to mention the MESS that happens when they finally DO let go..

SPLASH!

Pee all over the bathroom.

Would YOU wanna clean that up?

[Revamp]

Originally Posted by bugmenot

Here's my thoughts on that:

If he should retract for urination, then why even have foreskin? If he's not retracting for the first 5 (or maybe more) years of his life, and there's no harm then, then why do it later? Isn't urine sterile? If he shakes it (or even wipes it), then won't that be enough to remove any trapped urine?

I'm not saying "circumcise so he won't have to pull it back", i'm just not seeing any reason to pull it back while urinating, unless he doesn't want his friends to see the foreskin.

(Beware: potential TMI)

Well...Normally I do retract.

The reason being that if I do not some seems to get trapped in there and sterile as it is when it comes in I am not fond of leaving it there since it seems to irritate my openening a big, making it red. You would imagine that shaking would be enough but it seems not to be in my case anyway and the foreskin coated in urine leads to the glans sufferering the same fate and is slightly hard to clean. It it normally not totally retracted since, well, it does not really need to be. Oh yes and it does set the aim a bit off unless I do that too.

In a retracted child however this is not a problem because it bacteria can not really get in there.