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post #21 of 47
we have spent over $1500.OO on bioset and n.a.e.t treatments. We have followed the protocols and the chiropractor says he has been cleared. after the first few treatments i noticed improved energy levels... but after a year my son's eczema and puffy eyes are the same. we had high hopes but are disappointed. debating returning for the next two clearings... and she wants to test him for more allergies. she estimated 10 clearings and we are up to fifteen.
post #22 of 47
Yikes - cha-ching. I would try avoidance and gut healing... do you at least know what all the triggers are?
post #23 of 47
By reading the experience of other parents of kids with IgE mediated allergies, I think it's safe to say that NAET doesn't work on people with IgE mediated allergies, hence I won't be trying it on my kids.

That said, from what I've heard from parents of kids with food intolerances, NAET does actually work on some of those kids. Obviously not on celiac disease, but on other intolerances parents have reported some success.

Avoidance is what helped my oldest child outgrow roughly 1/3 of his food allergies. Time and avoidance.
post #24 of 47
This is an interesting thread (even though it started 2 years ago lol) for me, since we were just looking up information on NAET tonight.

My SIL (my husband's brother's wife) has celiac disease and is highly allergic to just about everything. She's gone on more elimination diets than you can count. She was down to about 3 foods that she was able to eat, then found she was allergic to those as well. There's literally almost nothing she can eat without it making her sick.

I don't know exactly what she's tried or hasn't tried, in terms of gut healing or whatever else. I only know she just keeps getting worse and worse.

Today she posted on her Facebook status that she had her first NAET treatment today. She said it was interesting, but she's still skeptical.

DH hadn't heard of NAET before (I had), so he looked it up and spent the better part of the evening scoffing.

I'm skeptical too. But I can see a tiny spark of reasoning behind it... or possibly, the kind of thing like "it works but not for the reasons they think it does" or "it works but we don't really understand why" -- like most of medical science through the centuries!

So I'm withholding judgement. I would not be at all surprised if it is all a big quackery. But I wouldn't be surprised, either, if it works -- at least for some people, some of the time.

For the sake of my poor SIL, I'm hoping that it is legit. She could use some respite.
post #25 of 47
We're working with an acupuncturist who does NAET, but we're long-distance now, so it's just phone consults. She's recommended, and we're going to try, NAET for my husband with someone local. From my discussions with her, she feels that it works _if_ the root cause has been identified and you've got supportive things in place to heal. One of her examples to me, she had a patient who had issues with wheat, but his underlying issue was the same as mine, our amalgams have messed with us in a lot of ways, and until we deal with that, NAET would help a bit, but the same underlying stresses were still there and would then re-create the same problem.

She thinks we're on the right track for DH, and I did see improvement for a few months before a really stressful deadline at work undid all the progress, so I'm hopeful that NAET can help boost him along.
post #26 of 47

How strange... I went to NAET after having two really bad allergic reactions from eating peanuts/peanut butter.  First, there was something very basic I was reacting to, and he cleared that first.  I woke up the next morning feeling like I could breathe for a change.  Then he cleared the peanuts.  I was scared to try them later, thinking, but what if he didn't clear the allergy after all?  The reaction I had to them before had been so bad, I didn't dare chance it.   Then one day I forgot and ate something with peanuts in it.   Realizing too late what I had done, I waited to see if I was going to swell up and choke to death while getting large whelps all over my face like a prize fighter. I warned my friends to watch me and call 911....  But nothing happened, I felt fine.  I was shocked and relieved, and wondered how it could have worked so well.   I suppose it does work for some people, perhaps even with nut allergies...  but I can believe it's not for everybody.  I wish Western Medicine could get better at helping people instead of just taking a lot of money and writing drug prescriptions, then maybe scams wouldn't have such a chance to take hold.  But in this case I'm glad I tried it, since it worked for me.

 

post #27 of 47
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Originally Posted by anniefannie View Post

How strange... I went to NAET after having two really bad allergic reactions from eating peanuts/peanut butter.  First, there was something very basic I was reacting to, and he cleared that first.  I woke up the next morning feeling like I could breathe for a change.  Then he cleared the peanuts.  I was scared to try them later, thinking, but what if he didn't clear the allergy after all?  The reaction I had to them before had been so bad, I didn't dare chance it.   Then one day I forgot and ate something with peanuts in it.   Realizing too late what I had done, I waited to see if I was going to swell up and choke to death while getting large whelps all over my face like a prize fighter. I warned my friends to watch me and call 911....  But nothing happened, I felt fine.  I was shocked and relieved, and wondered how it could have worked so well.   I suppose it does work for some people, perhaps even with nut allergies...  but I can believe it's not for everybody.  I wish Western Medicine could get better at helping people instead of just taking a lot of money and writing drug prescriptions, then maybe scams wouldn't have such a chance to take hold.  But in this case I'm glad I tried it, since it worked for me.

 



Were you actually tested for peanut by an allergist? How do you know it wasn't something else you were reacting to?  Peanuts are often x-con with other nuts so it could have been anything.  Also, if it was your first reaction and you have eaten peanuts prior with no issue I would think it was something else you were reacting to.  IF NAET worked for IgE allergies, Western Medicine would be all over it!  As it is, the NAET practitioners here where I live charge outrageous rates, require so many visits it's unreasonable and don't offer ANY medical support when a person DOES try and "allergen" which to me is the most scary part of it all.  Down right dangerous.

post #28 of 47

Count me out.  If NAET works, then it is a mind-body cure I think.  That makes it difficult for habitual skeptics like me to make it work.  I'm open-minded enough not to argue with others whose experience leads them to believe otherwise, but not so much that I can be convinced.  I think my other reservations have to do with the extensiveness of my allergies and the severity of my daughter's.  I prefer the western approach in this instance. Please take this post as a personal opinion only.

post #29 of 47

You will probably have a hard time convincing me that my sister’s baby was cleared of her reaction to milk products because of a psychosomatic reaction to a NAET treatment. How in the world could a 9 month old be told, ”This is going to make you better, so…”

If my sister had a steak cooked in butter that was enough dairy to cause the baby to respond negatively the next time she nursed. Reactions ranged from whining just after nursing (probably an upset tummy) to completely losing her meal. For the argumentative among you, babies are generally the happiest after nursing. Full tummy, lots of attention, clean diapers, etc…

The Dr. treated the baby for milk and the next day Christy tested the treatment with an entire weekend of dairy ranging from ice cream to pizza with cheese, etc.

The baby never showed another issue.

All of the kids have been treated now and have all had various milk tolerance issues. They are all gone. (Among reactions to numerous other food and environmental allergens)

I believe even the 3 year old could have some placebo effect from believing that she should feel better, though not much of one. That might work for a day or two, but months later she’s still clear.

The success stories are abundant. I’m sure there are failures as well, but the list of the people that I now know about who have benefited keeps growing.

Oh, and the remark about, “if it worked, western medicine would be all over it.” Tell that to the chiropractic world. I think we can be pretty sure that it works, and “western medicine” is still regularly opposed to it.

post #30 of 47

I find it fascinating that all these NAET supporters come here, post once on this subject on a 5 month old subject and don't ever show up again.

post #31 of 47

How often would you prefer that I post?

post #32 of 47

Oh, and, in case you ask, yes, I was tested for the allergies for which I am being treated by NAET, with the standard "scratch" test used by most allergists. I have used Astelin, quite successfully, to control the symptoms. I am currently being treated for the airborne allergens by a NAET Dr. and will be happy to report on the results, but won't really know anything until things start growing again around here. Are you willing to wait until then, or should I say hi every now and then so you won't think I have forgotten about you?

post #33 of 47

Is it a life threatening allergy or more of an inconvenience one?  Because I am only really interested in the former.  Feel free to post as much as you wish!

post #34 of 47
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Originally Posted by scsigrl View Post

Is it a life threatening allergy or more of an inconvenience one?  Because I am only really interested in the former.  Feel free to post as much as you wish!


scsgirl, you are coming across as a bit..... um.... gruff.  BlackStar is new here.  When I was new I also read and posted in some older threads.  Put your shiny side out, I know you have it.  :)

 

post #35 of 47

Wasn't my intention at all.  I am seriously interested in if anyone with ana reactions has been "cured" because I have yet to see documentation of it.  I also think junk science puts people in danger so I do get a bit soap boxie about NAET.

post #36 of 47

My mother has spent untold amounts of money on NAET treatments for various food allergies and "sensitivities"; some of which were identified by the NAET practitioner. The severity of the reactions ebbs and flows but no, none of them have been "cured". There always seems to be some reason that the treatments didn't work, some specification of the diet or the re-introduction to allergens or, or, or. I am not impressed.

post #37 of 47

I know of allergies where the person is so reactive that they go into shock upon exposure. Peanuts (and other nuts) are what I have heard the most about. A person would survive only if they were treated immediately.

“ana reaction” = Anaphylactic shock? I’m guessing.

 

My allergies are not going to cause me to die. I’ll say that sometimes I wish they would, and just get it over with, but I know they aren’t scary like some people.

I don't know anyone personally who has been treated by NAET for an allergy as severe as that.

The NAET Dr. identified the same environmental allergies that my allergist did. The NAET Dr. used the little bottles, and the allergist used a scratch test. That tells me that there is something valid with NAET diagnoses. Seeing my niece respond adds weight to the NAET system.

I know that even modern western medicine is called a “practice” for a reason. It is quite common to hear, “We don’t know why this treatment isn’t working. Let’s try something else.”

 

NAET is based on a different approach to health. It is not currently considered main stream. From what I have read, and I’ll admit it hasn’t been an exhaustive research project, the history behind NAET is thousands of years old. Chi, and meridians, and acupuncture, and energy flow…

 

As far as money goes, it’s difficult to place a value on treatment. We buried the son of a friend of mine after he lost his fight with cancer. He died within months of his initial diagnosis. In a conversation with a Dr. friend of mine he told me that there is less than a 5% chance that the boy would have survived the year with or without treatment. He also said that even if the treatment had extended his life it probably wouldn’t have been for long; a year perhaps.  I don’t know the grand total but I do know it was tens of thousands of dollars and there was no measurable benefit. In fact, the treatment was quite debilitating.  Not exactly the best memories of their time together.  I know people sometimes say, “No, I don’t want to spend that kind of money on a 5% chance? Let’s use some of it instead to take a trip together and have fun and make memories in the time I have left.”

Who was right?

 

NAET isn’t free, but it’s not as expensive as some other treatments. My Dr. is willing to admit that it doesn’t always work on the first try, but he is also willing to admit that my wallet is not bottomless. He has given me a reduced treatment price and he retreats for free if a particular allergen doesn’t stick the first time.  I guess if we try different things for a while and it still doesn’t work, I’ll have to say stop at some point.  For now, I have to wait for things to green up again around here.

post #38 of 47

At least physicians were able to give your friends that 5% figure. They were able to do that because, in contrast to NAET, research has been done on chemotherapy. 

 

"The NAET Dr. identified the same environmental allergies that my allergist did. The NAET Dr. used the little bottles, and the allergist used a scratch test. That tells me that there is something valid with NAET diagnoses." Or, that even a broken clock is right twice a day.

 

I'm happy for people who feel better/are happier as a result of the "treatments", and hey, my mom's allergies are still there but she feels a sense of satisfaction that she's doing something about them. If money is burning a hole in your pocket and it makes you feel better to toss some to a NAET practitioner, have at it!

post #39 of 47

I usually prefer not jumping into the NAET debate unless specifically asked what I think.  However, I will say that I will vocally disagree when dairy specifically is used as proof positive for NAET success in children.  The fact is, most kids will outgrow a dairy allergy. (My daughter is one of the relative few who not only have yet to outgrow it, but have a violent, life-threatening reaction to it.)  So, to be convinced, I would have to see a different one overcome.  That's all I'll say.

post #40 of 47

I came here to share my experience. Since some of you want to argue, I can do that too.

 

"...even a broken clock is right twice a day." Actually, a broken clock is never right. It does indicate a time that happens twice a day, but since a clock indicates a measurement in a dynamic system, it must be moving (working) to properly indicate a corect measurement.

 

There is a chance, a very small one, that the two tests would identify the exact same 5 allergies out of over 25 that I was tested for. The odds are actually worse than 1/53,130. Not exactly the same as the broken clock analogy.

 

If your mother can afford it, and I can’t know either way, but just like me, it’s her choice how to spend her money. I’ve tried that argument with my mom. It’s rather fruitless.

 

"I will say that I will vocally disagree when dairy specifically is used as proof positive for NAET success in children"

 

Kids do grow out of some sensitivities, but this family never has. In fact, the father is still bothered by milk. The baby’s milk example is not the only one; it’s just a really strong one. I doubt that enough examples to change your mind. Try it or don’t, but the truth is, some people are gaining relief from their symptoms. They believe that NAET is the reason.

 

This is becoming entertaining.

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