Healing the Gut Tribe - June!!! - Page 33

[Pookietooth]

kissy, I think the problem with store-bought yogurt is that they add extra milk, in the form of milk solids (nonfat dry milk powder), which ups the lactose content. Maybe if you cultured it for like 30 hours or something it might be lactose free, but who knows?

[Annikate]

caedmyn, I'm interested in reading more about that diet too for dd1. She is the one in most need of help right now and I know it's all about yeast.

Update on dd1:
She is tolerating TONS of new foods and her sleep continues to improve. Don't want to say it too loud but she slept for 5 hours last night, was up to nurse and went back to sleep for 4!

[EBG]

New problem with DD. She is almost 1... she's been bf like every 3 hours or so. Today she didn't want to nurse at all. Between 6 in the morning and 5 pm nothing. At that time she was sleeping so I picked her up and this half-asleep state allowed me to feed her but now she is refusing again. She just pushes away and cries. She did eat some veggies and a tiny bit of egg yolk but that's nothing. Can it be due to enzymes or yeast? Or does she have an ear infection? She is not pulling on her ears or anything and she drinks water fine. Is there something wrong with my milk? SHe is also teething but never refused nursing before....She doesn't have fever. Could she be weaning herself so suddenly? I have no access to raw milk and I don't know what I'm going to do if she keeps this up.

[Annikate]

EBG - Re: enzymes: How much/what enzymes are you doing? ARe you taking them or are you giving them to her?

ETA: No it does not sound like sudden weaning! Sounds like a nursing strike to me. WHy don't you post over in b'feeding too.

[jrose_lee]

Hi! I'm new to this, but I'm already on a super restricted diet due to lots of food sensitivities in ds (five months). I figure I might as well knock out the few things I had left My question is...is there a way to tell if I TRULY TRULY have either a leaky gut or yeast problems? I think I have some of the symptoms but I'm not sure? If I do, I'm wondering if it was what caused ds to be sensitive to so many things I've been going through the thread and some mamas are talking about their kids having these problems and it breaks my heart! Will ds have issues when he starts solids!? It's one thing if it's me, but ds..... : Have I ruined his system? I am, of course, willing to do the diet even if I can't find out for sure...just in case. But is there some way to tell? Someone told me about spitting in a cup of water to tell if it's yeasties....I'll try that in the morning. Any other more "official" way or do I just have to try the diet? I've been taking some probiotics for the past couple of days and ds and I have some gas for sure (he's so funny!) Is that die-off? Does that prove something?

[chasmyn]

I know that one other way to know if you have yeast is if there is a whitish coating to your tongue. That's pretty common in yeastie beastie infestations. There are other ways, too, of course. If you Google "candida" you'll probably find a ton of resources.

I'll let the other more experienced Mamas field the rest. HTH.

[chasmyn]

Oh beautiful Gut-Healing Mama Gurus, might I pick your brains yet again?

I am trying to decide which enzymes DH ought to take. Zyme Prime of Peptizyde, or both? His symptoms are: dermatitis or something like it, rashy red stuff, flaky skin, all over his head, chest, even face at times. Responds well to toxic ick and not much else (coal tar and the like ). He MIGHT have a dairy sensitivity - we know he cannot do any sort of pasteurized dairy, he does not digest it well. His stools are good, though - firm, sink, he says good color (I haven't seen them personally . He was recently on a mostly vegetarian diet and was eating eggs and raw milk with that, and some fish. Now has gone back to meat but is trying to eliminate allergenic foods except the 24 hour yogurt. We've seen no difference but it's only been a few days now. He says his stools are harder though, and he isn't goin g as often.

So which would you say he needs? One, the other, both?

[EBG]

Originally Posted by Annikate

EBG - Re: enzymes: How much/what enzymes are you doing? ARe you taking them or are you giving them to her?

ETA: No it does not sound like sudden weaning! Sounds like a nursing strike to me. WHy don't you post over in b'feeding too.

Digest Gold about 1\2, we're working our way up. I'm not giving her any enzymes. SHe take CLO and that's it. She actually ate more solids today than ever, she is probably hungry but I don't know why she won't eat.

I posted it here because I don't know how much the bfing thread people know about enzymes and healing the gut stuff. What is a nursing strike?

[EBG]

Originally Posted by Pattyla

So my friend up the street has lots of food allergy issues. Also her DS goes nuts when he gets any sugar/sweets at all. I recomended she try enzymes. She got the zyme prime while on vacation last week to try. She said that it made her and her mom feel hypoglycemic every time they took them. (she struggles with hypoglycemia). Any ideas on why that happened?

First of all, hypoglycemic people should eat low-carb. Amyleses will raise blood glucose levels. I don't know how much there is in Zyme-Prime, but maybe too much for starters. They might need to start with half a capsule or so, and restrict sugars in their diet.

[Annikate]

Originally Posted by EBG
Digest Gold about 1\2, we're working our way up. I'm not giving her any enzymes. SHe take CLO and that's it. She actually ate more solids today than ever, she is probably hungry but I don't know why she won't eat.

I posted it here because I don't know how much the bfing thread people know about enzymes and healing the gut stuff. What is a nursing strike?

This is just my gut feeling on it and I could be wrong but I doubt it's the enzymes causing it. Babies that young also do not suddenly wean like that. A nursing strike is just what it sounds like. Babies refuse the breast for whatever reason. When they do, it's best not to think of it as weaning, but to offer the breast as much as possible (even if this means going topless around the house and co-sleeping if you normally don't) until they will nurse again.

It's extra important that your babe nurse now while you're working on gut healing.

The ladies in b'feeding will know more about nursing strikes than I do. My dd's never refused the breast even when I sometimes wanted them to!

[moonshine]

EBG: Nursing strike is also the first thing that went through my head. I personally have not experienced one, but I have heard they can even last a few days. Annikate gives some good suggestions and I would also hop over to the Bfing forum. I have Breastfeeding Your Growing Toddler, which I guess your DD isn't quite, but I can check in there on what to do for a nursing strike.

[moonshine]

Originally Posted by Pookietooth

kissy, I think the problem with store-bought yogurt is that they add extra milk, in the form of milk solids (nonfat dry milk powder), which ups the lactose content. Maybe if you cultured it for like 30 hours or something it might be lactose free, but who knows?

Is this true even if the ingredients say just milk (and whatever probiotics)?

[caedmyn]

Pattyla & Annikate--I found out about this diet at the candidasupport yahoo group...you have to join to read the files, though. If someone wants more info but doesn't want to join, PM me your email address and I'll send a Word document with the basic info on the diet. It is harder than the SCD I think, but easier in some ways too, as you don't have to introduce things by stages. I'm eating salads now (and apparently digesting them fine) but hadn't got up to raw foods on the SCD yet. There are some pretty yummy recipes, at least the ones I've tried so far have been good.

[EBG]

Next morning-DD is still not eating, I even tried mashed bananas, egg yolks, squash, even the NT recommended commercial formula. She doesn't want to eat. As for nursing, the sleep-nursing didn't work this time. She sucks once or twice then pushes away, and cries. Will see ped to rule out infections... I'll check the bf thread for nursing strikes... thanks for your help. I'm just a nervous wreck right now.

[moonshine]

EBG Sounds like you are taking all the right steps. Hang in there.

[Mama_in_Maine]

New to this.. just learning the ropes

Hey all,
First of all I just want to add that since joining the Mothering forum I have learned tons and feel more empowered in helping my daughter and keeping my children healthy! Thanks to those ladies that have helped me find my answers and helped me to feel welcome!
My daughter has Autism and will be 3 in August. She is on GFCF diet (has been since August '05 except when we went off at Thanksgiving to see how she would react..a week later we were back on it!) She has eczema off and on and right now it is pretty bad on her legs and arms. I suspect yeast and really want to start to clean out her system..what are my steps and what are the products I need?
Also I am breastfeeding newborn twin boys. If I have yeast in my system I could possibly be passing it to them. How can eliminate yeast in my breastmilk and if they already have yeast, get rid of theirs as well?
One of the twins has pretty wet BM's, and the other burps a rotten egg smell. Could these be signs of Yeast? I'm thinking yes and as you can imagine I am severely paranoid my two boys will develop Autism as well and want to do everything I can...
Thanks for your help!

[quelindo]

I started taking 2 Tbsp. of the Blue Ice CLO -- does anyone know if high doses are okay for nursing? I may go to 3 Tbsp. for a week or so if it's okay. And if it is okay, should I also give ds some? Or would he be getting enough of it through my BM (he's almost EBF)? (I'm hoping to clear up acne and those pesky red bumps on the back of my arms in me, and a pimply rash on ds's cheeks and upper arms.)

[moonshine]

New Mama, I am taking 2 tbs of Blue Ice (and nursing). I am not giving any to my nursling DD, but then I am also not trying to "fix" anything with her. I am giving it to my older DD, when she will take it.

ETA: I also have to those red bumps. There are very slight and don't bother me any, but I was hoping that with CO and CLO they would go away. Still waiting.

[Threefold]

Uh-oh, nevermind! I was trying to post to a different thread!

(Too busy lurking here today to add anything worthwhile!)

[chasmyn]

Originally Posted by Mama_in_Maine

Hey all,
First of all I just want to add that since joining the Mothering forum I have learned tons and feel more empowered in helping my daughter and keeping my children healthy! Thanks to those ladies that have helped me find my answers and helped me to feel welcome!
My daughter has Autism and will be 3 in August. She is on GFCF diet (has been since August '05 except when we went off at Thanksgiving to see how she would react..a week later we were back on it!) She has eczema off and on and right now it is pretty bad on her legs and arms. I suspect yeast and really want to start to clean out her system..what are my steps and what are the products I need?
Also I am breastfeeding newborn twin boys. If I have yeast in my system I could possibly be passing it to them. How can eliminate yeast in my breastmilk and if they already have yeast, get rid of theirs as well?
One of the twins has pretty wet BM's, and the other burps a rotten egg smell. Could these be signs of Yeast? I'm thinking yes and as you can imagine I am severely paranoid my two boys will develop Autism as well and want to do everything I can...
Thanks for your help!

There is a wonderful book called "Enzymes for Autism" by Karen De felice. I just finished reading it myself after seeing it recommended here so many times. I think it would be a great resource for you, as well.

Also http://www.enzymestuff.com