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post #701 of 770
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Originally Posted by Bestbirths
oh are you talking about a 6 month old with sleep issues? Have you tried bach rescue remedy, calms, or teething tablets from hylands? I would think removing the offending foods from your diet, if you are nursing. & looking at environmental controls, like getting rid of mold, using air purifiers, etc. as some things to look at.
I've tried the teething tablets and haven't been too impressed...but then I don't really know if the problem was teething or just overall sleep issues. She's actually going to sleep okay at night but wakes up a couple of times a night (and she only woke up once a night even as a newborn so I really don't understand why she suddenly wakes up more often)...plus she takes short naps, around 30 minutes right at the moment, and it's a struggle to get her to take naps. I guess I can look at the calm stuff and see if that would help. Our house is only 6 years old so I wouldn't think mold would be an issue but who knows. We're moving to a brand new house in a different city the first of August so I guess I can see if it improves then

Are you sure almond milk isn't allowed on the SCD for 6 months? If almond butter is allowed pretty much right away I don't see why almond milk wouldn't be allowed.
post #702 of 770
caedmyn, do you sling her? At least for naps? I remember have huge issues with getting DD1 to sleep for naps, but she was a bit older. I would sometimes spend more time getting her to sleep than she would nap. : It was nuts. She seems to be a child that doesn't need that much sleep. She is now, at 4.5, sometimes sleeping through the night. Thank goodness DD2 sleeps better. I couldn't take 2 nonsleepers!
post #703 of 770
caedmyn, I used to have to sleep or lie with ds for the entire nap for him to sleep more than 45 minutes, unless he was in his carseat and the car was moving. Even the sling didn't usually work unless I walked vigorously the whole time. I'm sure it's the yeast and sensory issues making so sensitive, though, now that I think about it, and that might have been what was making him such a bad napper. He still almost always wakes up after an hour and must nurse back to sleep -- both for naps and at night. At least most of the time, he will nurse back to sleep.

Here's a new problem: it would seem that ds's tummy has been bothering him for quite some time, but he didn't tell me until recently because he thought I knew. He says it hurts worse when he needs to poop, but that it hurts pretty much all the time. That it feels like something is poking at his belly. He does have diarrhea, too, which I've attributed to the raw and dried fruit he insists upon eating. Any ideas what to do? He's at least been eating less fruit, and eating more yogurt -- plain! The tummy ache on top of the nosebleeds has me feeling like either we've got to go back to the intro diet or move to some other diet, one that allows grains, at least for him.

Does anyone know the best form of vitamin E? Where to get it? Also, B vitamins? And minerals? SCD legal, of course.
post #704 of 770
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but he didn't tell me until recently because he thought I knew.
I tell ya! my children don't tell me things either. You almost have to be a mind reader, detective, or extremely prudent in every thing. They said they were afraid to go in their room because of spiders, but the furnace man found a leak that had leaked through our furnace, under a wall in the utility room to the girls room under a dresser, causing mold in their room. Then I say, "no wonder you didn't want to go in you're room" and THEN they tell me, yeah, it gave me a headache to go in my room. ARGH!!!! I've been scrubbing. I think maybe scrub the area another couple times. Dh put a new furnace filter in, one of those more expensive ones that are supposed to be better for allergies. The old filter was covered with mold, so...NO WONDER. We've had behavior, dark circles, the not sleeping....
post #705 of 770
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by JaneS
Yes I absolutely think all constipation is a gut flora issue and its likely that the senna is doing something to his flora as well, I don't know much about it though.

Have you tried magnesium? Natural Calm makes "Baby Calm" but I don't know how it's different. Mag. is fantastic for constipation.
Thank you!!! This is exactly what I've been looking for...I kept thinking I wanted to use Magnesium and knew about Natural Calm but didn't know they made one for babies. I'm ordering it now - woo!
post #706 of 770
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by JaneS
Both. Or try Thropps b/c they are cheaper, can take two for higher proteases between meals. Sounds yeasty/fungal to me.

Is he taking CLO? I think the fats are very imp. with skin issues, try to aim for the ideal 1:1 ratio of omega 3's to omega 6's. The vegetable fats everyone says are healthy are not that great for this reason.

I wonder if he's getting die off from the yogurt.
Would the Thropps replace both or just Zyme Prime?

He is, I've been drumming into him the importance of CLO, so he has been fairly good about taking it. We use the Garden of Life one.

He's had this skin thing for most of his life, so I don't know. He does have 2 servings of the yogurt per day though and prefers it to store-bought. He had some store-bought once recently and said "it tastes fake".

This may be a silly question, but is Magnesium good for men, too? I'm wondering if I should have him take a multi mineral (I use Bluebonnet) or just KAL dolomite. Or Thropps says it has trace minerals, too. Unlike me, his absorption is good, his stools sink, so I don't know that he even needs extra. But um, sometimes? Um...the toilet gets all clogged after he goes. And it isn't from toilet paper So I was thinking magnesium. But! He does wait until the end of the day when he gets home to go. He refuses to use public toilets for such acts. So maybe that's really what it is and Mag isn't the issue at all.

Oh, and one more "me" question: like I said, I supplement with multi minerals. I have malabsorption which has me feel like I need to supplement. Am I just flushing money, or should I keep supplementing until absorption is achieved?

And are they ever going to sink??? I can get them fully formed but they still float!:

Can you tell I feel comfortable talking here?
post #707 of 770
I keep getting too overwhelmed with life and not posting much here or focusing on much but getting by.

There is so much info here I don't know how to assimilate it all. Sometimes I just wanna quit, stick my head back under the sand, and be a neglecto mommy who leaves her sick kid to cio till she just gives up. Thankfully dh let me get a nap yesterday evening and that helped a ton. We're gonna try to night wean this weekend. I'm at a breaking point with lack of sleep and if this works it will be a huge change for all of us. DD is also getting her 2nd cst treatment tomorrow. The first one didn't seem to do much of anything but perhaps this one...

I think I keep cycling through new die off. I'll be fine for a few days and then constipated again. I'm not sure if it is that I get a respite or I go backwards. I hate to think I'm just killing off the same level of yeast over and over again. Hopefully not. I'm just so frustrated and despite it not being a completely ideal time for me physically, I just wanna be pg again. I'm much healthier than I was when I got pg with dd. I don't want her to be too much older than her younger sibling esp since I plan to h/s. And I just wanna have another baby. (af is arriving today in case you can't tell) DD was conceived our first month ttc and we even stopped trying too early that month but got pg anyhow. This time it has been 10 months so far and nothin. The last two cycles have looked really good on paper and really gotten my hopes up. Sigh. And dh has decided that it is better to not care either way cause then you don't get disappointed so he just shrugs when I tell him af is on the way. He also thinks I'm putting too much effort into our diet stuff and that I should just trust that the research I have already done is enough. He doesn't get it that I keep learning new things that are helpful. (like I just increased my selinium after that post a couple of pages back)

Anyhow. I'm whiny and not very helpful feeling right now so I'll take my whiny butt out of here.

I did want to mention that thanks to scd I am now, for the first time in 5 years, wearing the same size I wore when I got married (5 years ago next week). I was pleasently surprised when I went to get a couple of new skirts today that I wore a size smaller than the one that I thought might be a bit too optomistic. Two sizes smaller than when I got pg w/dd.
post #708 of 770
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Originally Posted by caedmyn
I've tried the teething tablets and haven't been too impressed...but then I don't really know if the problem was teething or just overall sleep issues. She's actually going to sleep okay at night but wakes up a couple of times a night (and she only woke up once a night even as a newborn so I really don't understand why she suddenly wakes up more often)...plus she takes short naps, around 30 minutes right at the moment, and it's a struggle to get her to take naps. I guess I can look at the calm stuff and see if that would help. Our house is only 6 years old so I wouldn't think mold would be an issue but who knows. We're moving to a brand new house in a different city the first of August so I guess I can see if it improves then

Are you sure almond milk isn't allowed on the SCD for 6 months? If almond butter is allowed pretty much right away I don't see why almond milk wouldn't be allowed.
Sounds like teething to me. my dd slept 6 hours the first few months but now (10months) only sleeps maybe 2 or 3 , since she is about 5 months old. Pretty sure it's teething. I wouldn't consider that to be a sleep issue.
post #709 of 770
May I please ask a question? This is to anyone and everyone who has the time to answer How did you know that you/your children had some sort of yeast/bacteria/leaky gut problem? Did you take a test? Were there certain symptoms you paid attention to? Did you just KNOW?

I'm pretty sure we have this problem (or at least me...hopefully I haven't messed 5 month ds up too much...) I'm already starting the SCD and I figure...well, even if it turns out we didn't have these problems...it's still a very healthy way to eat

Anyway...just wondering...how did you know? Because, I really would like to know for sure one way or another :
post #710 of 770
Patty. I totally hear you. I get sooo frustrated too. Dh and I have a pretty nonexistent marriage right now because we're trying so damned hard to *fix* the girls. All my time (haha - I use that term loosely. What time?) is focused on trying to get to the bottom of these issues. And I'd LOVE to get some freakin sleep too one of these f*^^%&* days. It's hard not to get discouraged. I always do though. Dh is great about reminding me of "stinking thinking" and is really gifted in being able to turn my attitude around. (Thank goodness.)

Anyway, just wanted to lyk that you're surely not alone. I just post about it on other threads.
post #711 of 770
Patty,

The first few months on the candida diet was hell. I didn't take all the supplements I intended because I simply couldn't function well enough to remember. But, somehow, it helped anyway. I think the first rule should be not to over-obsess, but it's pretty much impossible not to because we all want to be better as quickly as possible.

I spent many years agonizing about when the next baby would come and, as it turns out, baby will come in his or her own time I suppose. We're still not really ready and I'm four years postpartum. Don't let that scare you, we've had a number of compounding issues. But the fact is that taking a few more months for yourself will only help when the next baby comes around.

Just try to get past these die-off phases. You will. Whoever established the rule of thumb that die-off would last two weeks or, at most, a month is probably related to the person who said that fatigue in pregancy disappears after the first trimester. It's rubbish. Life got tolerable for me after about two months and then improved measurable every couple of weeks.

And it's totally OK not to read or post on this thread until you are feeling better.

Amanda
post #712 of 770
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Originally Posted by jrose_lee
May I please ask a question? This is to anyone and everyone who has the time to answer How did you know that you/your children had some sort of yeast/bacteria/leaky gut problem?
I had signs of a systemic yeast infection, most notably shooting pains in my breasts when nursing. These symptoms appeared one year postpartum after a year of struggles with thrush.
post #713 of 770
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Originally Posted by jrose_lee
May I please ask a question? This is to anyone and everyone who has the time to answer How did you know that you/your children had some sort of yeast/bacteria/leaky gut problem? Did you take a test? Were there certain symptoms you paid attention to? Did you just KNOW?

I'm pretty sure we have this problem (or at least me...hopefully I haven't messed 5 month ds up too much...) I'm already starting the SCD and I figure...well, even if it turns out we didn't have these problems...it's still a very healthy way to eat

Anyway...just wondering...how did you know? Because, I really would like to know for sure one way or another :
I have known for years that I had systemic yeast.

DD started having nearly constant yeasty diaper rash starting at about 6 months old (1 month before we started solids.) When I realized that a year had gone by without it resolving despite various treatments for it, I began looking for some more answers and realized that she had systemic yeast as well. Not sure if she got it from me or because of the circumstances surrounding her birth or both.
post #714 of 770
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jrose_lee
May I please ask a question? This is to anyone and everyone who has the time to answer How did you know that you/your children had some sort of yeast/bacteria/leaky gut problem? Did you take a test? Were there certain symptoms you paid attention to? Did you just KNOW?

I'm pretty sure we have this problem (or at least me...hopefully I haven't messed 5 month ds up too much...) I'm already starting the SCD and I figure...well, even if it turns out we didn't have these problems...it's still a very healthy way to eat

Anyway...just wondering...how did you know? Because, I really would like to know for sure one way or another :
Did you check out the Healing th Gut Cheat Sheet Sticky? It has a lot of great information about candida and studying stools, etc. Those can definitely tell you.

Oh, and to answer your question, I've had candida yeast before so I knew the signs in myself. And when DS spit into a glass while he was teething and chewing, he failed the spit test. Then there are the stools...malabsorption! So I knew that my being drawn to these threads had a good reason.
post #715 of 770
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Originally Posted by chasmyn
And are they ever going to sink??? I can get them fully formed but they still float!:
Are you taking a high protease between meals? It is my understanding that could help?
post #716 of 770
Question for JaneS (or anyone else who knows the answer): when culturing L. reuteri, do you mix it with the other probiotics, or do it by itself?
post #717 of 770
I got Kefir grains today and was under the impression it would be good for me....am I wrong? You have to add sugar, the directions say. I thought on SCD we were trying to avoid sugar. Can I still make this? Help?
post #718 of 770
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by moonshine
Are you taking a high protease between meals? It is my understanding that could help?
Not yet but I am about to order some Peptizyde (unless someone knows a comparable less expensive one?). I worry a bit about the hyperness I've read so much about - not in myself, but in DS, as we're nursing.
post #719 of 770
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Originally Posted by jrose_lee
I got Kefir grains today and was under the impression it would be good for me....am I wrong? You have to add sugar, the directions say. I thought on SCD we were trying to avoid sugar. Can I still make this? Help?
are you talking about water kefir grains? you have to add sugar with them yes....with dairy kefir grains you don't...because it consumes the sugar in the milk....
post #720 of 770
However, I don't believe that either water or milk kefir is SCD legal.
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