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post #741 of 770
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Originally Posted by Gale Force
I posted about this too with moonshine's question -- is kefir SCD legal? My problem was candida and I actually found that both yogurt and kefir worked well for me but I did let my kefir stew until it was basically vinegar.
Kefir is sort of legal, link further up to info on BTVC site. Dairy needs to be cultured for 48hrs is my understanding.

Although that link says Sacc. Boulardii is illegal and it's not, Elaine changed her mind on this beneficial yeast due to studies with HIV/AIDS patients.
post #742 of 770
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Originally Posted by jrose_lee
Just seems like some people have been mentioning how their children are sleeping better or worse etc. Does this really effect how they sleep? Maybe it was just a coincidence, but those long four hour sleeps were nice No more millet bread for me!
Absolutely and my experience was exactly the same. I had anxiety and insomnia and nightwaking coinciding with when digestive problems were the worst (and when I had thrush while bf'ing so I know positively it was all connected).

The explanations for this may be several:

-Neurotoxins excreted by bad bacteria/yeast.

-Nutritional deficiencies caused by inability to absorb or break down specific nutrients (b vits, magnesium, amino acids for ex. )

-Interference by both of the above with production of neurotransmitters in the gut that the brain runs off of. The gut manufacturers all of them for the brain.
post #743 of 770
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Originally Posted by EBG
Update: It's been 6 days since DD hasn't been nursing. It turned out she has hand, foot and mouth disease (virus) and she has sores on her tongue and throat. Poor thing, it must have hurt her so bad to give it up... She is eating some solids now and water but still refuses to nurse. I think she already made the association between breast and pain, so I don't know if she'll go back to nursing when her mouth is healed. I hope my milk will come back if she does. I wasn't planning on weaning her at 1 yr.
Wow, at least you figured it out, the poor bunny!!! Give her vit. A and C if you can. I'm sure your milk will come back and I hope she will be interested again when she's better, have you tried pumping?
post #744 of 770
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Originally Posted by Bestbirths
Update: We drained the whey out of our yogurt and it was less tart. We use the same drained yogurt for both dccc and yogurt just fine except for dh reacted negatively.
Dh has migraine, diarrea, and intestinal pain...and thinks the yogurt is playing a role. Although it could be dieoff, correct?

I was thinking it is the starter he is reacting to, and not the yogurt. We used yogourmet. I needed to use a d-lactate free starter for ds anyway, and was going to try custom probiotics, but dh muscle tested that the custom probiotics starter wouldn't work for him but the progest would work for both of them. I don't know why this is, does anyone have ideas.

Is the pro gest starter a d-lactate free starter? What are all of the yogurt starter options? Does anyone have the link to the starter called pro jest or pro gest. I can't find it.

The lady that sells us our goat milk believes strongly in a product called threelac. Does anyone have experience with this product? Seems different than houstons enzymes in that it is three different strains of bacteria that feed on yeast.
Progurt is the dairy free starter:
http://www.giprohealth.com/Merchant2...y_Code=ProGurt

I have no clue what this d-lactate free thing is all about. What I had read is that the issue is the toxins from bad bacteria, not the good ones.

Threelac is an MLM and way expensive so that always made me wary of people saying they loved it. I just don't know what to think about it. It's over $1/packet with shipping and suggested beginning use is 5 packets a day for a month!

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Threelac
Ingredients: Spore Forming Lactic Acid Bacteria (Lactobacillus Sporogenes), Lemon Juice Powder, Refined Yeast Powder, Castor Oil, Spore Forming Bacteria (Bacillus Subtilis), Lactic Acid Bacteria (Streptococcus Faecalis).
post #745 of 770
BB,

Yes intestinal problems with yogurt can indeed by die off. It's suggested that one goes very slowly, since one teaspoon can contain more probiotics than a store bought capsule.

Speaking of Threelac, VSL#3 is another one I don't know what to make of.
http://www.vsl3.com/VSL3/default.asp
post #746 of 770
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So JaneS, are you going to be writing a book about this process? Because I'm thinking that like MT, with the amount of research you've done and what you've amassed, it wouldn't be a bad idea
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Whoever was mentioning that candida diet with fermented cabbage juice, could you please post link?

I was calling a cabbage juice slurpie in Allergies forum....
post #748 of 770
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Originally Posted by chasmyn
So JaneS, are you going to be writing a book about this process? Because I'm thinking that like MT, with the amount of research you've done and what you've amassed, it wouldn't be a bad idea
Thanks, maybe when my DS heals but that's not looking likely anytime soon. Until then, I don't know enough IMO.

Also many things like leaky gut and especially it's connection to bf'ing that is so theoretical at this point. Hard to claim a connection in print based on "gut feeling" and reading between the lines.
post #749 of 770
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Originally Posted by chasmyn
So JaneS, are you going to be writing a book about this process? Because I'm thinking that like MT, with the amount of research you've done and what you've amassed, it wouldn't be a bad idea
I was thinking the exact same thing.

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Originally Posted by JaneS
Also many things like leaky gut and especially it's connection to bf'ing that is so theoretical at this point. Hard to claim a connection in print based on "gut feeling" and reading between the lines.
True, but you could include this as a disclaimer up front and just not focus on the link to b'feeding. (For now anyway!) Maybe it'd spark some research in that area!
post #750 of 770
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Originally Posted by JaneS
Whoever was mentioning that candida diet with fermented cabbage juice, could you please post link?

I was calling a cabbage juice slurpie in Allergies forum....
That was me...I can't post a link because the info is on a yahoo group. It's the candidasupport group. There is a ton of information in their files, though, on many different subjects. I can post the cabbage juice recipe, if you're interested, though.
post #751 of 770
Jane, do I remember you warning against grapefruit seed extract? Or was it olive leaf extract? I seem to remember you mentioning something about one of these.

I was thinking of getting some GSE for dd1.
post #752 of 770
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Originally Posted by Annikate
I was thinking the exact same thing.
Except for the fact that I've just finished MT's incredible book and I'm nowhere near in her league!
post #753 of 770
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Originally Posted by caedmyn
I can post the cabbage juice recipe, if you're interested, though.
Yes please, can you post in this Allergies thread:
Probiotics for Allergies and Eczema
http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=467776
post #754 of 770
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Originally Posted by JaneS
Also many things like leaky gut and especially it's connection to bf'ing that is so theoretical at this point. Hard to claim a connection in print based on "gut feeling" and reading between the lines.
I am not following ya' here. A link between breastfeeding and Having a leaky gut?? Or not breastfeeding? What is your theory? I missed this detail!!


Thanks, Pat
post #755 of 770
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ance&n=3760901 This is the product recomended to me by the naturopath for me to take to benefit both me and dd through my bm.

It is available cheaper other places.
post #756 of 770
Ok, I'm still breastfeeding DD who is 2.5. If I start taking enzymes might she see a benefit from them? Or should she get her own? I worry about overload.

I believe we both have trouble digesting & absorbing food. My stools are floaters & hers are very soft with undigested bits.
post #757 of 770
chlobo, she'll get some through bm but could benefit from them w/her solids as well. I give my nursling enzymes directly and she also gets some from me. (I focus mostly on her though and don't use them all the time myself.) The key is to go reeeally slowly and build up to tolerance.
post #758 of 770
Can someone post a link to the "SCD Chef..Let's share" thread. I cannot find it anywhere (w/o search). I'm looking to make the cashew butter bread that Jane posted

Oh, and an update on the cake we made for the wedding. So we made Jane's cashew butter cake....OMGoodness. It was delicious!! I also made the honey frosting. Now, all of us, including the 4 yr old sweetaholic, found the icing to be too sweet. I got a wicked headache and my 4 yr old started feeling nauseous. So I cannot recommend it...just too sweet. But the cake was awesome!
post #759 of 770
Does anyone know how often an EBF baby should poop? I've read that it's normal for them to go up to a week between poops but I don't know if that's really accurate. DD has always pooped at least once a day, but since I started this new diet she has been pooping less frequently, more like every other day, and often smaller poops, too. As far as I could tell she has normal poops before.
post #760 of 770
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Originally Posted by AmyD
Can someone post a link to the "SCD Chef..Let's share" thread. I cannot find it anywhere (w/o search). I'm looking to make the cashew butter bread that Jane posted
Found it! It should be ready in 45min.

Good question on the EBF and pooping. I'm not sure. Why would an EBF babe get constipated anyway? Why would an EBF babe not have a bowel movement every day either???
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