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post #21 of 64
6/2/06 at 7:15pm
Thread Starter 
Probably the breasts. See, people have a problem with breasts...rembmer?

See, in the graphic gorey hospital birth, there were no breast shots. In the waterbirth one, there were.

In some prude's eyes, breasts are baaaaaad.

where's that eyeroll smiley???
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post #22 of 64
6/2/06 at 7:21pm
What does eating have to do with watching a video? I'm eating a corndog (veggie) while watching the video. (honestly, I'm asking seriously, I've heard people say similar things before "not while I'm eating!" etc, I never got the joke or what was wrong with eating while watching ugly things) Really looked owie, I feel bad for that mama with all the poking pushing and pulling, oh, and cutting. How painful and cold.
post #23 of 64
6/2/06 at 7:24pm
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Originally Posted by mara
What does eating have to do with watching a video? I'm eating a corndog (veggie) while watching the video. (honestly, I'm asking seriously, I've heard people say similar things before "not while I'm eating!" etc, I never got the joke or what was wrong with eating while watching ugly things) Really looked owie, I feel bad for that mama with all the poking pushing and pulling, oh, and cutting. How painful and cold.
I implies that it's so disgusting it'll make you sick and therefore you might throw-up your food or at least lose your apetite.
post #24 of 64
6/2/06 at 7:27pm

interesting bit a voyeurism there

I think its late sixties-early seveties. I think maybe not US as not in delivery room or birthing room. Cloth gowns.....

two comments- baby doesn't look so hot. Limp, not really breathing....

mediolateral episiotomy---- OUCH
post #25 of 64
6/2/06 at 7:27pm
I think mom looks happy and healthy in the end, so does baby, could worse,
but it just looks uncompfortable, like shes on a flat gerney (cant spell) thing not even a bed, and that pushing on her belly, then top it off with a terrible cut, wow!

How doyou find the other 2? the waterbirth you are talking about?
post #26 of 64
6/2/06 at 7:27pm
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Originally Posted by mamajama
I wonder if this woman knows that her private and beautiful, profound moment (and that of her baby as well) is up on youtube for everyone to see and comment on. I think it's a shame that it is being presented and commented on in such a negative way.
That baby looks big, beautiful and healthy and the Mama did an amazing job.

yeah, what she said! i guess i have seen and heard of much worse. the amma did a great job.
post #27 of 64
6/2/06 at 7:36pm
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http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=MidwifeGrl

Here's the profile of a lady who put up her birth video. She's a Lay Midwife. So you can do the math

Totally different ambiance...
post #28 of 64
6/2/06 at 7:45pm
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Originally Posted by mamajama
I implies that it's so disgusting it'll make you sick and therefore you might throw-up your food or at least lose your apetite.
So (sorry for carrying on off topic but I have always been curious about this) is it just a silly saying or are there actual people who get sick and throw up? What I mean is, is it really rude to show something gross to an eating person or more part of a joke like you said, so disgusting I might throw up. Is it said in the same way someone might say "I'm so hungry I could eat a horse"? Or like someone says "I just threw up in my mouth a little" but really they didn't. What I'm trying to say is do they really mean they can't eat at the same time or just say it to dramatize?

OK, back on topic for y'all.
post #29 of 64
6/2/06 at 7:48pm
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Originally Posted by Pandora114
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=MidwifeGrl

Here's the profile of a lady who put up her birth video. She's a Lay Midwife. So you can do the math

Totally different ambiance...
Yes, very different because this one was posted with the love and reverence every birth deserves.
post #30 of 64
6/2/06 at 7:57pm
"The quality of a birth depends on the empowerment of the woman."
post #31 of 64
6/2/06 at 7:59pm
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Originally Posted by Pandora114
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=MidwifeGrl

Here's the profile of a lady who put up her birth video. She's a Lay Midwife. So you can do the math

Totally different ambiance...
But what the heck is up with all that messing about with things?

In both videos people just need to go away and let the mother get on with things.
post #32 of 64
6/2/06 at 8:03pm
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Perenial massage to prevent tearing. the catcher was also slowing the baby's crowning so the mother could strech adequately, also preventing tearing.

Sure beats the hell out of the slice n dice that was going on in the first video.
post #33 of 64
6/2/06 at 8:31pm
Ugh. That episiotomy was just AWFUL. Glad I saw that, not that I ever wanted one but now that I know what it looks like I will NEVER consent to one!
post #34 of 64
6/2/06 at 8:59pm
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Originally Posted by mara
So (sorry for carrying on off topic but I have always been curious about this) is it just a silly saying or are there actual people who get sick and throw up? What I mean is, is it really rude to show something gross to an eating person or more part of a joke like you said, so disgusting I might throw up. Is it said in the same way someone might say "I'm so hungry I could eat a horse"? Or like someone says "I just threw up in my mouth a little" but really they didn't. What I'm trying to say is do they really mean they can't eat at the same time or just say it to dramatize?

OK, back on topic for y'all.
mara...I don't get sick or throw up, but sometimes if I see or hear about something that's disgusting to me while I'm eating, I find myself physically unable to take another bite of food until I clear my head.
post #35 of 64
6/2/06 at 11:05pm
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I think it's a shame that it is being presented and commented on in such a negative way.
Why? It's horrific that a woman should be cut for no reason and that a birth attendant would pull on a baby like that. Why shouldn't that be said?
post #36 of 64
6/2/06 at 11:09pm
And the second birth -- why on earth does the midwife have to have her hands on the baby's head the whole time and in the mother's vagina at all? Oh, and the lovely suctioning. Oh, and pulling on the baby's head again. It's all just so unnecessary and so invasive.
post #37 of 64
6/2/06 at 11:14pm
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Originally Posted by fourlittlebirds
Why? It's horrific that a woman should be cut for no reason and that a birth attendant would pull on a baby like that. Why shouldn't that be said?
I think it's wrong and disprespectful to use this woman's birth as an example without her consent. I would be absolutely HORRIFIED and feel completely violated if I were to discover that my birth experiences were publicised and used in such a way and that people who watched responded with shock and disgust, completely disregarding the awsome work I had done in giving birth in the first place, and not commenting on the amazing baby.

Sometimes there are valid reasons for epesiotomies and scaring women away from the option by exploiting and sensationalising the birth experience of one unwitting woman is doing a disservice to all involved.

I see this as a violation of this woman's rights to privacy and a disrespectful approach to the topic.
post #38 of 64
6/2/06 at 11:37pm
I'm with you, mamajama. So much so that the minute I clicked on the link I immediately felt ashamed that I was watching this, so I closed the window and wrote a letter of complaint to that website.
post #39 of 64
6/2/06 at 11:43pm
I should put my homebirth video up on youtube. My doula swears she could hear the ripping. All I could hear was the blood as it was hitting the floor.

I was hoping that woman consented to her video going up, but maybe not. Yeah, that is disrespectful.
post #40 of 64
6/2/06 at 11:46pm
I am curious who put the video up, I sure hope the birthing mother gave her permission!

Did anyone else notice the woman who gave the episiotomy was fumbling with the scissors at first? Yikes.

Nuchal hand too... and so that baby was hard to get out I'm sure, especially lying down. It would have been more expedient for the mother to have been upright allowing gravity to assist instead of something pulling and tugging on the baby's head IMO.

actually, watching that video was helpful to me because I've never seen a birth video where the baby had nuchal hand and it was helpful to see that because we suspect Audrey had a nuchal hand/fist somewhere near her face but because of the waterbirth and me being the one to catch her (well, I sorta did thankfully the bottom of the pool was cushioned )... but how that baby looks coming out is how it felt when Audrey came out.

I did notice the mom had a look of exhiliration and joy on her face... I was glad to see that.

The second video... hmm, perineal stretching gives me the heebie jeebies because it was done to me with my first birth and it was awful.
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