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post #1701 of 1785
my lil guy was born at 34 wks and has never nursed well on me- not even with a nipple shield, he just screams. the only times he'll be around my bare breasts without crying is when asleep, but he doesn't nurse then either. i have an awesome supply (enough for myu big 2 each drinking about 20 oz, and still tossing some out every day. i am still pumping 7-8 X a day. i'm hoping ds will one day sacve me all this hasssle, but i get less optimistic by the week. i go for days at a time without trying now because i'm so busy pumping washing feeding trying to take care of the big kids etc. there just Arent enough hours in the day
post #1702 of 1785
Anyone else hate having to pump at relatives houses over the holidays?
post #1703 of 1785
pumping and replying...

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Originally Posted by anj_rn View Post
I have been EPing for 4 months now (following 3 months of EBFing, and 1 month BF/Pumping)...and she was so surprised I was still pumping and really made me feel good about it.
That's awesome anj_rn!

When I first started EPing, multiple docs told me that there was no way I could keep pumping for more than a week or two. That was 20 months ago.

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Originally Posted by anj_rn View Post
So, I am passing the praise along. EPing mamas are awesome, and every time you pump, you deserve a standing ovation.


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Originally Posted by kjenkins55 View Post
Hi everyone My daughter was born August 4th and I've been EP-ing since about the 2nd week.


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Originally Posted by kjenkins55 View Post
Hi everyone Anyway..was there ever a point in time where you were able to pump less and still get the same amount of milk?
I have been able to pump less often (and still get the same amount), but I do pump for a longer time when I pump.

My supply has decreased slightly over time, but I think that's more to do with overall length of time than any change in pumping schedule/length.

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Originally Posted by tessa_s212 View Post
Been basically EPing for about a month now.
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and now I can't breastfeed.
First, and tessa_s212. It sounds like you are doing really well in a really tough situation.

I was very disappointed and frustrated not to be able to breastfeed directly, but it helped me to hear someone say "You are breastfeeding! It may not be in the way that others do, but you are."

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Originally Posted by kjenkins55 View Post
I've been ep-ing for 4 1/2 months now, and several times I got down to producing like 10 oz or less in a day ( recurrent mastitis)..I got that too from people ' you should just stop' or ' how long are you going to keep doing this?'. Argh!
Yes! Argh! After months of "as long as I can, hopefully at least 2 years," people have stopped asking. And for all you are doing.

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Originally Posted by kjenkins55 View Post
Nope. EP-ing is hard work, and every little bit of BM is a gift
EPing is hard and EPing with other challenges (mastitis, thrush, or whatever) is especially hard!

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Originally Posted by April Dawn View Post

I also second the idea of a hospital grade pump - I use a Medela Symphony and get more with that than I get with other pumps I've tried. The rental is kind of pricey - $65 a month - but I just remind myself that without it, I'd just be spending that money on formula anyways!
I third the suggestion of a hospital grade pump. I have 2 pumps, a hospital grade one that I use for most (95%) of my pumps (all at home and work) and a non-hospital grade pump that I use if I'm going to be out and I need something light and easy to transport.

I rent the hospital grade one and it's about $33/month.

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Originally Posted by Mama2Katie&Owen View Post
Hi! I just found this thread and wanted to jump in even though I am nearing the end of my EPing journey. DS turned 1 on November 21 so I made it to my original goal of his birthday-now I'm just pumping until after Christmas to try to keep him as healthy as possible through the holidays.
Congratulations on your one year milestone Mama2Katie&Owen!

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joining
Welcome!

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Originally Posted by mom2tig99Nroo03 View Post
i'm so busy pumping washing feeding trying to take care of the big kids etc. there just Arent enough hours in the day
Do you have a dishwasher? I decided to get a few extra sets of pump parts, so I would have enough to be able to throw them in the dishwasher, run the dishwasher once/day, and not have to worry about washing in between pumps.

Happy Holidays to all the EPing Mamas out there!
post #1704 of 1785
wow!

To all of you who EP. That is amazing. I didn't get through the whole thread, but what I saw was inspiring.

I don't really consider myself an EPer, because I was able to nurse 3 of my 4, but when my third had a severe stroke and a gtube was placed, I realized I would be EPing for her. I ran the gamut in pumps: hospital grade, rental, PIS, etc. I also did all the supplements: dom, fenugreek, etc. When she first went into the hospital, my milk all but disappeared. Stress had made it impossible for me to let-down which contributed to severely decreased supply. I went from a full supply to about 30 cc's per day...in less than a week.

I ended up EPing for 14 months. Until she was 15 months old. I just couldn't take any more than that. I could only take it week to week to get that far in the first place. She still only eats what I blend for her: real food. I sure didn't pump for that long to open a can. she is now 4 and starting to drink a very small amount of her caloric intake. It's slow going, but worthwhile. The dysphagia is pretty bad and I'm not sure we'll ever totally get rid of the tube.

The one thing that got me through it was meeting a mama who was doing the same thing for her son. We met at Children's and she was my sanity. She pumped for a little longer than me, but her baby had GI problems as well as oral motor problems. Even now, there is only a small group of moms who blend food for their kiddos in our area and she and I kind of spearheaded some info-disseminating in our state.

Anyway, I just wanted to give an extra boost to all of you who are doing it right now. I found the best way to solve my pumping dilemmas and supply problems was to share them. Not everything works for everybody, but the more options you have, the more likely you are to find something that works. :-)

warmly,

belcantomom
post #1705 of 1785

Happy Holidays to all of you!


Edited by April Dawn - 7/5/11 at 7:16pm
post #1706 of 1785
My baby is 6 days old, but so far hasn't been able to latch, so I've been pumping for each feeding. I have a question though-how many times a day am I supposed to pump? I've been trying to do it after each time she takes a bottle, but today I feel like my amazingly abundant supply has gone way way down and I've only had my milk in for two/three days! I'm not leaking in my breast pads, and I can't really hand express any or much, which is what I was doing inside my breast shields when we attempt to nurse (so she'd taste some automatically)...
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Originally Posted by Channelle View Post
My baby is 6 days old, but so far hasn't been able to latch, so I've been pumping for each feeding. I have a question though-how many times a day am I supposed to pump? I've been trying to do it after each time she takes a bottle, but today I feel like my amazingly abundant supply has gone way way down and I've only had my milk in for two/three days! I'm not leaking in my breast pads, and I can't really hand express any or much, which is what I was doing inside my breast shields when we attempt to nurse (so she'd taste some automatically)...
Pump a MINIMUM of 8 times a day... Try for 10. 20 minutes each time. That should help bring in enough milk.

Have you tried latching her with a nipple shield? They are more like a bottle... Good luck getting her to the breast!
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Originally Posted by GooeyRN View Post
Pump a MINIMUM of 8 times a day... Try for 10. 20 minutes each time. That should help bring in enough milk.

Have you tried latching her with a nipple shield? They are more like a bottle... Good luck getting her to the breast!
Yikes, I'm not pumping nearly enough!!

Yeah at our consult yesterday we were introduced to the shield, and did so well! But at home we couldn't get it...think it might have something to do with a lower supply though...
post #1709 of 1785
yep, 8X at a minimum. you should be pumping every 2-3 hrs. for 20-30 minutes, and using a good pump as well.
post #1710 of 1785
Thanks! The last couple days I've been a pumping fool! I've also been practicing with baby to get her to latch, and we are having great progress!
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Joining!

Just wanted to say hello and introduce myself. Similar to a PP, I started out with month of bottlefeeding and BFing, did 3 months of BFing with SNS and am now EPing. LO is 6 months. I spent a lot of time on MDC getting ready for the birth and since but somehow missed this thread. Fortunately I found the EP tribe in ivillage, a very good resource for technical questions. I'd love to make it a year but am just taking it one pump at a time.
post #1712 of 1785
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Originally Posted by Channelle View Post
Thanks! The last couple days I've been a pumping fool! I've also been practicing with baby to get her to latch, and we are having great progress!
Good luck Channelle, hopefully things will work out and you won't be here long!
post #1713 of 1785
just wanted to pop in and give props to all the current EPers!

My son (now 30 months) was a 33 weeker, and could ever latch, though I worked with 6 LC's, tried to BF every day, etc. He simply didn't have the oral motor skills. I was encouraged right after his birth to start pumping by an awesome LC in the hospital, who set me up and sat with me while I pumped. Then she gave me a handout on the benefits of breast milk for preemies, and I was committed to giving it to my son, no matter what. I EPed for 13 months, when his extensive allergies forced us to put him on elemental formula (with disastrous results- turns out he is highly allergic to corn, the basis for almost every formula produced).

At 15 months, after trying to find a formula he could tolerate for months, he ended up hospitalized with severe failure to thrive. (He had been off breastmilk for a while- I just continued to pump for 2 months afterward, freezing it in hopes that he would get to transition back.) Testing showed that his colon and esophagus were badly damaged and he was unable to absorb nutrients from anything. We eventually found a very restrictive medical formula he tolerates, but it is vitamin and mineral deficient- he spent over a year being hospitalized every few weeks for treatment of these deficiencies. It is thought that he has a very rare gastrointestinal and metabolic disorder, as he is still unable, at 2.5 years, to tolerate any intact protein in his diet.

Every person in my life (except my husband) assumed I would stop pumping and transition to formula within a few weeks- surely by the time he came home from the NICU. I did not! I pumped at work, I pumped in the car, I pumped everywhere I went. I pumped while parked in front of the Washington Monument (wish I'd taken a pic!) and got up twice a night to pump. I started hearing things in the pump motor sounds, and I felt intensely hostile toward my pumps a number of times (I ended up with one at home, one for the car, and one for my office).

My son is still not diagnosed, but several of his specialists have remarked that my breast milk most likely saved his life. Had he been put on formula, his malabsorption would have been earlier and more severe, and he would have been too young to bounce back.

I have a 3 month old daughter now, and she has no oral motor problems, so I am finally breastfeeding! Unfortunately, she is much more sensitive to animal protein in my diet than my son was, and I am on a soy-free vegan diet so I can nurse her. The lower calorie and protein intake have made my supply tank, so I am taking domperidone (just started 2 days ago). It is working, and I am able to pump twice a day and get (as of today) an additional 10 ounces to freeze. If she regresses for some reason and ends up unable to nurse, I will pump full time for her.

I just wanted to share my story- reading this thread while I was EPing, especially in the early days, helped me keep my sanity. NOBODY understood except people who had BTDT, and getting the validation that (a) it's a tremendous accomplishment and (b) it's absolutely worth it kept me going day to day.

I wish you all the best of luck!
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nm!


Edited by April Dawn - 7/5/11 at 7:16pm
post #1715 of 1785
april, it could be a growth spurt...
post #1716 of 1785
congrats on the succeess channelle
post #1717 of 1785
April Dawn, breast milk is digested differently, and your baby may totally ne hungry at night. I had to feed my baby (expressed mama milk) every hour until she was at least 13 months old, maybe longer.
post #1718 of 1785

joining

pak! and not hands free so excuse typos.
on day 43 of nursing strike and pumping 6x a day for my 12 month old
I read the whole thread and I feel less alone.
you all rock!!
post #1719 of 1785

quick question...

hi all you devoted mamas!
i am hoping you can help me with something...

i exclusively breastfeed my daughter (12 weeks), but not with all my own breastmilk! we use donor milk in addition to my milk due to my breast hypoplasia.

anyway...i give her about 10 ounces of donor milk a day (in several feedings) via lact-aid nurser every 3-4 hours. i can't tell how much she is also getting from me, of course, but when i pump i hardly get anything.

for those of you with babies around 3 months (or those of you who remember this stage!)...how much breastmilk would your baby take? in a given feeding? total in a day?

trying to get an idea of how much she is getting from me and if i should be trying to get more donor milk in her. she is growing...but not crazy fast (30th percentile which doesn't really concern me...those charts are certainly not the "end all be all" by any means!!)

thanks ladies!!

best,
sarah
post #1720 of 1785
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Originally Posted by MamaRue View Post
hi all you devoted mamas!
i am hoping you can help me with something...

i exclusively breastfeed my daughter (12 weeks), but not with all my own breastmilk! we use donor milk in addition to my milk due to my breast hypoplasia.

anyway...i give her about 10 ounces of donor milk a day (in several feedings) via lact-aid nurser every 3-4 hours. i can't tell how much she is also getting from me, of course, but when i pump i hardly get anything.

for those of you with babies around 3 months (or those of you who remember this stage!)...how much breastmilk would your baby take? in a given feeding? total in a day?

trying to get an idea of how much she is getting from me and if i should be trying to get more donor milk in her. she is growing...but not crazy fast (30th percentile which doesn't really concern me...those charts are certainly not the "end all be all" by any means!!)

thanks ladies!!

best,
sarah
I've read anywhere from 19 to 30 oz is normal, but each baby falls in his or her own place within that range. Most babies take a fairly steady amount from months 1 to 6 (with some ups and downs depending on growth). For my son, he took around 25-26 oz a day until recently. HTH!
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