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post #1741 of 1785
I got the breastshield inserts (21mm) and it's much less painful now, and I think my supply has increased.

And my doc prescribed me All Purpose Nipple Ointment, which should hopefully start helping my poor abused left nipple soon.
post #1742 of 1785
that's great! lots of docs still dont know what it is
post #1743 of 1785
how do you entertain/soothe the baby while you pump a bajillion times a day? Twice I've tried to pump today, and gotten as far as the beginning of the second let-down, and she's required my full attention. I tried giving her a binkie, and tried sitting next to her for a minute (I was wearing my hands-free pump bra, and one time, a full bottle of milk fell off and spilled everywhere. aaargh.) How is this supposed to work? I can't just skip pumping, or even just not pump enough, while dh is at work, and expect my supply not to dip.
post #1744 of 1785
my older kids help entertain lil guy, and mil holds him quite a bit too while i am in here pumping.
post #1745 of 1785
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Originally Posted by CorasMama View Post
how do you entertain/soothe the baby while you pump a bajillion times a day? Twice I've tried to pump today, and gotten as far as the beginning of the second let-down, and she's required my full attention. I tried giving her a binkie, and tried sitting next to her for a minute (I was wearing my hands-free pump bra, and one time, a full bottle of milk fell off and spilled everywhere. aaargh.) How is this supposed to work? I can't just skip pumping, or even just not pump enough, while dh is at work, and expect my supply not to dip.
I have the fisher price newborn to rocker chair thingie, and I strap him into that when I pump. Then I use my foot to rock him and sing songs, make faces, basically make a geek of myself . I seriously made some catchy tunes about naming his body parts to the rhythm of the pump a few days ago. I am such a dork since he's only 4 months. But he doesn't cry, so whatever works!
post #1746 of 1785
I would make a circle of fun things and sit in the center with the pump (pumping hands free) I would move her (when she got bored) between the swing, exersaucer, bouncy seat, and a blanket on the floor with toys. Moving her around like that kept her fuss free for at least 15 minutes. I even learned to wear her on my back and pump while doing dishes.
post #1747 of 1785

Joining

Hi Mamas,

I am finally joining here officially. I still don't know why it hurts to BF(going for yet another LC consultation soon) but I have been successfully EPing for 3 months now. I had a question for you mamas - is anyone having to feed 5 oz every feeding(8 feeds per day)? Not being able to BF means I don't know how much BM my DS needs...he has always had a healthy apetite...we joke that he will drink a whole gallon if we offer him He doesn't spit up or seem to be in any discomfort but I am getting stressed having to pump 35-40oz each day. I am hoping to give him 4.5 oz instead. He is growing furiously thankfully!
Also, any of you mamas know of any good brochure/pamplet/website which talks about EP to explain to non-EPers and explain how much more diffcult it is?
post #1748 of 1785
Forgot to mention in post above...

DS is 16weeks and weighs 16 lbs
post #1749 of 1785
I always said my little girl was a bottomless pit! At 16 weeks she would sometimes take 6-7 oz but as she drank more per feeding the number of feedings would go down. It would be closer to 4 hours in between bottles. She did wind up going to 8oz I would say by about 20 wks or so, she was also in the 95% for weight as well! She loved her boobie milk! And, unless you have pumped I don't believe anyone will ever understand what you are going through. It just sucks! But, from someone who cried over the stress of it, when I stopped, it was actually emtionally hard. I felt bad not making food to feed my child. I was estatic that I wasn't doing it but emtionally it was hard. My sister pumped as well, she had no problems stopping but it did bother me. I made more milk than what I needed so I have quite the frozen stash. I was lucky to be able to store up milk so I could stop pumping. Pumping is okay in the beginning, but once she reached 6mo and slept less, it got hard. I bought a Jumperoo that she just loved and I would pump while she jumped. That I HIGHLY reccomend. I also was given a Baby Einstein jumper but that did not have the flexibility that the Jumperoo has. It saved me. Wait till they crawl, then pumping gets really hard! She is 11mo now and I can't imagine having to pump. Oh god I hated pumping! The tears, the anger, thank god it's over! People have no idea that your world becomes consumed by the production of your milk. The pumping, the storage, the freezing. I felt like a mad scientist with all my bottles and bags on freezing day. Measuring and pouring like I was doing a crazy experiment! I wish you luck and peacefull pumping!
post #1750 of 1785
,gulp> ds will be 1 yr old TOMORROW! i'll be mama to a 1 r old pumpling!


i have managed to get him to nurse approximately 8 times total. always with a shield, but that requires JUST the right mood and the right level of sleepiness/distraction/coaching.

i guess it just sin't gonna be in the cards for me to have another kiddo who'll clw. sucks since i know several mamas with kids similar to ds' age and they're weaning or have already even though they had ver few issues. yet someone like me who'd let em nurse for several more years is not gettign the opportunity. sucks big roten eggs. :cry: :
post #1751 of 1785
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Originally Posted by mom2tig99Nroo03 View Post
,gulp> ds will be 1 yr old TOMORROW! i'll be mama to a 1 r old pumpling!


i have managed to get him to nurse approximately 8 times total. always with a shield, but that requires JUST the right mood and the right level of sleepiness/distraction/coaching.

i guess it just sin't gonna be in the cards for me to have another kiddo who'll clw. sucks since i know several mamas with kids similar to ds' age and they're weaning or have already even though they had ver few issues. yet someone like me who'd let em nurse for several more years is not gettign the opportunity. sucks big roten eggs. :cry: :
I knowww !!!! I miss BFing him so much...the few time I have been able to do it, it feels so special....specially when he looks into my eyes as he nurses...but it hurts so bad, so back to pumping
post #1752 of 1785
It's funny. I was just thinking about this tribe, and I saw the most recent post as I was scrolling through the recent BF threads. Must be a sign to post. I have not read all the previous posts, but I am so glad to see this thread here.

I have been pumping since my twin boys were a few weeks old, but I went to exclusive pumping when they were around 6 months old or so. I tried SOOOO hard to get them to nurse. SOOO hard. It just never really worked. They did nurse for a while, but they could never really fill themselves up and they resisted nursing--screaming, back arching, etc.

It's such a long story, but I think the biggest reasons are that they had latch issues, then I got thrush, then mastitis, then thrush and mastitis again, then they stopped gaining any weight and were diagnosed with failure to thrive. I started giving bottles then, and they developed a bottle preference, but I think that was because for the first time they were finally getting enough to eat. They were around 2 1/2 months old when I first started giving bottles. I worked with a LC and my local LLL, read anything and everything I could on bfing problems, tried everything under the sun....anyway,

they just started refusing to nurse AT ALL around 4-5 months, which I think may have been related to undiagnosed reflux and ear infections as well. basically, we had just about every problem in the book. I tried the SNS too, but trying to tandem nurse with two babies who can't nurse and trying to wrangle that thing was just insane. I did try it several times though, but all I wound up with was screaming babies and wasted milk all over my clothes, etc.

Anyway, you get the picture. It was so hard. SO hard. And I had no help during the day and I became so sleep deprived that I could not see straight. I think if I had had some help so that I could have focused on one baby at a time I could *maybe* have kept them nursing longer. But, that was impossible. I was pretty much on my own. Anyone that has had twins knows how hard this is. My mother would have loved to help, but she died 3 months before I found out I was pregnant. I did not have any sisters or aunts or anything. So, on top of everything else, I was also suffering from PPD due to losing my mom, my father being ill, and trying to raise twin infants without much support.

Anyway, the boys are 11 months now, and I only pump a few times a day. But they still get about one or two bottles of mama milk each day.

I have mourned the loss of the nursing relationship, and was doing much better about it until recently.

But recently I have started to grieve again. It breaks my heart I can't still nurse my babies and that they never found nursing to be a comforting or happy thing. It was always such a struggle for them. So many tears were shed by all of us as we tried so hard. It breaks my heart my boys don't look to me for that comfort when they fall or are sleepy. Sometimes I wonder if they are even that attached to me. But then I get angry with myself for thinking that because I know that's a form of mommy-guilt, and that I know I did everything I could to get them to nurse. And I know being a mom is about so much more than nursing. As you can see, I argue with myself about this issues A LOT.

It's nice to know there is a group of mamas who understand.

When we went to bottles it was the best thing for our relationship. Not to mention, of course, their health. Feedings went from utter hell to somewhat peaceful. But it's hard not to still miss being a nursing mom. It's so hard to not be sad about never having had that bonding with my sons. Even though they did nurse for a while it was always so hard and they fought it and cried and cried.

I guess it's a grieving process I will revisit time and again.

Know what I mean?

Thanks for listening.

.
post #1753 of 1785
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Originally Posted by GandEmama View Post
I have mourned the loss of the nursing relationship, and was doing much better about it until recently.

But recently I have started to grieve again. It breaks my heart I can't still nurse my babies and that they never found nursing to be a comforting or happy thing. It was always such a struggle for them. So many tears were shed by all of us as we tried so hard. It breaks my heart my boys don't look to me for that comfort when they fall or are sleepy. Sometimes I wonder if they are even that attached to me. But then I get angry with myself for thinking that because I know that's a form of mommy-guilt, and that I know I did everything I could to get them to nurse. And I know being a mom is about so much more than nursing. As you can see, I argue with myself about this issues A LOT.

It's nice to know there is a group of mamas who understand.

When we went to bottles it was the best thing for our relationship. Not to mention, of course, their health. Feedings went from utter hell to somewhat peaceful. But it's hard not to still miss being a nursing mom. It's so hard to not be sad about never having had that bonding with my sons. Even though they did nurse for a while it was always so hard and they fought it and cried and cried.

I guess it's a grieving process I will revisit time and again.

Know what I mean?
i get it mama, i get it- even though i only have 1 where you have 2, except bottles were enver good for our relationship here, as he didn't even actually like them til now- now that i am trying to get him onto a sippycup and off the bottle. ugh.
post #1754 of 1785
this is a couple of questions to all ep mamas- especialy if u pumped longer than a yr. how did you get them off the bottle and onto a cup? also how may times a day were you pumping at 12 months old?

i want ds to continue to have my milk through at least cold/ flu/ rsv season, but i can't ge thim on a cup and i am trying to ump 4 X a day now (currently doign5 one day then 4 the next to get to 4)- but still totalling over t5 hrs to get all the milk out. i have a sensitive supply and i am afraid to drop any more than 4.
post #1755 of 1785
going on 6 months EPing
post #1756 of 1785
my son was born with a cleft palate. i've been exclusively pumping for 10 weeks now. I would like to know from those of you who are long-time pumpers....
#1 Do you start making more milk at somepoint? My son is taking in more and more, he is doing about 2.7 oz every two hours, which is exactly what I am making right now. I feel like I go from bottle to bottle, can't seem to catch up. I have some saved in the freezer, but dont want to hit my stash yet. i have been making this same amount since the being. no really quanity changes, even with galactagogues and other tips.
#2 Do you have one breast that makes more milk than the other? My left makes 2-2.5 oz and my right one make 1-1.5. How to I fix this? and can it be fixed?
Thanks.
post #1757 of 1785
I just posted this in the main breastfeeding forum before I saw this tribe. Maybe someone here has insight??

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I delivered a surrogate baby 4 weeks ago. He lives in another state and since he left (at 3 days), I've been pumping and donating to a milk bank. My nipples are still WAY sore-- like don't-hug-me and showers-are-evil sore. What's the deal? And is there hope in sight?

Background: I've been a heavy pumper in the past. My breasts are hypoplastic, so I have low supply, which has necessitated lots of quality time with the pump. With my second baby, I did the weigh-nurse-weigh-pump-feed routine for months and then pumped when I went back to work. No problems. Pumped with my first too (I nursed both babies too, in case that's not obvious). I never had any soreness beyond the first couple of days (or maybe weeks-- I don't remember-- but not like this!).

Now: I'm pumping every four hours, but skipping the one overnight. I use a Medela Classic (hospital-grade) at home and a PIS Advanced at work. My breasts are not sore, just the nipples. The breastsheilds I'm using are the standard size, which I feel pretty confident is correct. I use the lowest suction on the Classic and middle/high on the PISA (a similar level to low on the Classic). I'm getting about 22 oz/day total.

The area around my nipple is light pink-- you can tell it's sore or healing or something. And I guess most accurately, it's that area immediately surrounding the nipples (not the whole aereola) that's the most sore-- though the actual nipples are sore too, I think. Ow. I had a couple of cracks immediately after the birth (within the first week), but they healed and there's nothing obviously wrong now.

I really don't want to pay to go to an LC when I'm only pumping to donate. Anything you can think of for me to try? My midwife suggested using olive oil to lube, but that didn't help. I know the other option is to just stop pumping, but after all the supply battles in the past and having to rely on donated milk myself, it's been so awesome to be able to "pay it forward," so to speak. I'd really like to keep it up for at least a few more weeks-- ideally, for a couple of months.

Thank you!
post #1758 of 1785
steam, i'd lower the suction, and at least TRY a set of 27mm shields.

natanya, the foirst 12 weeks are really the big building time... how often ar eyou pumping, and for how long?
post #1759 of 1785
and yes it is completely normal for one side to make more than the other.
post #1760 of 1785
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Originally Posted by mom2tig99Nroo03 View Post

natanya, the foirst 12 weeks are really the big building time... how often ar eyou pumping, and for how long?
Thanks. I'm pumping every 2 hours on days when I can and every 3 hours when I'm at work. I pump for about 15 on the side that produces alot and about 20 min on the side that doesn't. I have a great pump...the medela symphony and I got bigger horns (im up to 30mm) and that all seems to help. I think it was because I had a few nights where I was too tired to pump in the middle of the night...I was going about 5 hours between. Now I'm back to the ever 3-4 hours at night. It is slowly starting to pick back up, but wondering when I'm going to get the 3-4 oz every pumping instead of just 2.5-2.7 oz. My little guy is not so little anymore and is wanting 3-4 oz at a time. I'm bearly a bottle ahead.
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