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post #981 of 1785
Yay! Well, you inspired me, so tomorrow I'm posting about the new TSA policy on my blog. Thanks.
post #982 of 1785
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Originally Posted by JeanineTheOT View Post
I was actually wondering that, how you all give the milk. ...
So, how do you all work it out, without wasting milk?
I never dumped milk, either. During the day, I'd just keep it out for the next feeding. At bedtime I'd put it in the fridge or the cooler by my bed. Sometimes I forgot I had a leftover bedtime bottle in the fridge and they had fresh at "breakfast" so they had the leftover later in the day. Frozen, too. In 18 months, never a problem.
post #983 of 1785

A non-sensical self-rant.

Well, I'm def. losing some of my meager supply now that I'm on a 4x/day schedule. It's partly my fault...the only time I get a good 30+min pump is in the morning...I've been cheating (I'm now hooked up while Katie naps, though, trying for another 30+ min). I feel conflicted. I'm somewhat elated to think I'll soon be able to go out and about without worrying about the pump. We went to Cleveland this weekend, and I ended up pumping in the parking garage. LOL. It would be nice to not have to worry about that sort of thing.

And I'm losing weight. I noticed once I cut down to about every 4 hours, the weight started coming off. Dropping to 4X/day has made even more come off...It's the first time I've seen a number in the 160s since college. I'm 5'9" and 160 was a good weight for me, structurally, so, I'd be THRILLED to get there again.

At the same time, I'm HORRIBLE about ending things, and this is going to be another one of those situations....I'm already starting to beat myself up about it...13 mos? *Only* 13 mos? It doesn't help to hang around MDC; around here, that's like saying, "Oh, yeah, I breastfed for 13 days and then quit". ARGH!!! If Katie got sick, I'd beat myself up left and right and blame myself.

Blech. I think it's time for me to go back to "little" goals. And I need "daily" minute goals. ARGH. How ridiculous am I??? : OK: New goal; 14 mos (I'm fully aware that that's less than a month away : ) and 120 minutes a day. Whether that means I have to go to more than 4 pumps a day, or do a superlong one at the end of the day, fine. I'm not thinking logically anymore. Yes, it is a copout...I figure if I put my 120minutes in and dry up, so be it...I tried. Blech.

Oh, re a pp's q. I hardly EVER dump milk. Only if it's been left out and *smells* sour.
post #984 of 1785
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Originally Posted by katheek77 View Post
Whether that means I have to go to more than 4 pumps a day, or do a superlong one at the end of the day, fine. I'm not thinking logically anymore. Yes, it is a copout...I figure if I put my 120minutes in and dry up, so be it...I tried. Blech.
I totally understand this. I don't look at it as a copout ... it's making a firm discernment about what you can actually handle, mentally and physically.

And I'm a big proponent of extended breastfeeding, but EPing is a TOTALLY different deal. 13 months is an eternity for EPing. We all do what we can.
post #985 of 1785
WOW!!! That is so amazing and cool!!! Thanks... I will have to try this rubber band trick
post #986 of 1785

Go pumpers!

When my baby was born she seemed like a natural. Everything was going great UNTIL she refused to nurse at 2 1/2 months. She kicked and screamed. The doctor diagnosed her with baby reflux that she takes zantac to treat. My baby is now 5 months old. I started out pumping and doing just fine when she was first diagnosed. I could pump 4 oz every two hours for each feeding and she seemed content. Then at about 3 months, 4 oz was not enough. she went up to 6 oz every two hours and it came to point where I had to supplement with a gentleease formula for babies that have fussiness or gas. Mixing my milk with formula helped b/c she went to every three hours instead of two. I cried the first time I mixed formula with my milk. It gets very frustrating that I am not able to nurse exclusively and that I can't ever seem to pump what she needs for each feeding (which is now 6-8oz 4x a day). I even pump after she goes to bed and in the middle of night. She can even tolerate nursing once a day but thats her limit. Even then she has to have a 4 oz bottle of formula b/c she is till hungy. When I try to nurse her more than once a day she gets very uncomfortable.

My goal is to breastfeed until she is 12 months. I really want to get my milk supply up so that I can pump between 6-8 oz of milk for each feeding without spending an hour to pump. Is this even possible w/o spending an hour or more to pump? I can pump 4 oz in about 15 minutes 2 oz per breast. She eats every 4 hours. It would be great if I could spend no more than 30 minutes and get 6-8 oz. I have tried but it doesn't work. The only time I am able to pump 6oz or more is in the middle of the night after I had rested a bit. Any other time I can only get 4oz. My main concern is getting my milk supply up using a pump. I use a playtex embrace. It is hospital grade with 4 suction strenghts and 4 speeds. It seems to be working fine and I am pleased with it so far, so, I think it's just me. It could be that I should try pumping every two hours like I used to when she was first diagnosed with reflux. Maybe by doing this my milk supply will eventually pick up after a day or two??? : I feel that all I do is pump as it is. It is very tiring and frustring. I have even considered weaning her completly and using formula, epsecially since she is on solids now. Any suggestions or encouragment to keep pumping would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for reading my story:
post #987 of 1785
I use a playtex embrace. It is hospital grade with 4 suction strenghts and 4 speeds. It seems to be working fine and I am pleased with it so far, so, I think it's just me. It could be that I should try pumping every two hours like I used to when she was first diagnosed with reflux. Maybe by doing this my milk supply will eventually pick up after a day or two??? : I feel that all I do is pump as it is. It is very tiring and frustring. I have even considered weaning her completly and using formula, epsecially since she is on solids now. Any suggestions or encouragment to keep pumping would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for reading my story:[/QUOTE]


I started pumping because of yeast/thrush infections and purchased the Playtex Embrace on the advice of a friend. I was able to increase my output from 18 0z a day to 30 oz a day in two weeks. I started by pumping every two hours during the day and about every four hours at night (I needed to sleep sometime). Luckily I have fast flow so now I pump 5-6 times a day for 20 minutes at a time and for me it's much quicker than having her chew on my nipples for hours on end. Keep it up!!
post #988 of 1785
I'm joining to lurk I am almost 15 weeks preggo as a surrogate and I will be exclusivly pumping for the babe once he's here. My IM wanted to induce lactation but because of some meds she's on that are incompatible with breastfeeding she won't be able to She's still going to use a SNS w/ my EBM so they can have a breastfeeding relationship. Anyway, I just wanted to join now so I can soak up your knowledge and ask any questions as they come up.

...fading back to lurk status...
post #989 of 1785
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It doesn't help to hang around MDC; around here, that's like saying, "Oh, yeah, I breastfed for 13 days and then quit".
NO IT ISN'T!!!!!

and you know it. deep down, you know the sacrifices you've made! EP'ing for 13 months is IMO the equivalent of bf'ing for 26 months because it's twice as hard. (actually, I found at the end, when I was down to 2x per day, I'm sure it was easier in many ways than the toddlers who are still nursing round the clock- but not easier in a good way, if that makes sense, because it's not like I wanted to quit. I just knew I couldn't keep going.)


Trish, that is very selfless of you! lucky baby
post #990 of 1785
I am at nearly 19 months and supply is barely enough for dd.
post #991 of 1785
are you ready to stop yet, usolyfan? if not, have you gone the fenugreek/more milk plus/oatmeal route yet?

wait-when you say barely enough, do you mean barely enough for the whole day, or barely enough for it to be worth it? around 19 months I think dd was only getting 6-8 oz per day, I was down to 2 pumps by then.
post #992 of 1785
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Originally Posted by katheek77 View Post
I'm already starting to beat myself up about it...13 mos? *Only* 13 mos? It doesn't help to hang around MDC; around here, that's like saying, "Oh, yeah, I breastfed for 13 days and then quit".
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Originally Posted by bri276
NO IT ISN'T!!!!!
What she said. I have to admit I feel like a wimp in comparison to some of the longer-lasting EPers on here. But you can only do what you're able to do. That's why I have the thing in my sig about it, to remind myself to be proud of what I did.
post #993 of 1785
OK, so I never thought Id feel this way, but I think I am getting ready to start HUTH. Well, weve had a rough week. DHs best friend died suddenly in his sleep on Saturday morning, then I got food poisoning on Sunday. I got severely dehydrated, ended up in the hospital with an IV, and my supply tanked (of course) so yesterday I pumped 16oz (usually Im at around 35 oz) Today seems a bit better, but not by much. Violet is eating so much food, it is crazy. Im not sure if it is that Im still sick and my head isnt clear...but it is so tough to pump... Im thinking of introducing some sort of mamma's milk substitute. The MD said that there really isnt anything equivelant to mammas milk (I know that, of course), but what do you ladies give? I know some are doing soy, some whole cows milk, but how did you make the decision? And what about toddler formula? If she is eating a lot of food, do I need to give toddler formula or can I just give a milk product? Thanks so much..my head is just spinning thinking about not making enough for her to drink each day and that I really have to make a decision about this soon.
post #994 of 1785
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Originally Posted by JeanineTheOT View Post
OK, so I never thought Id feel this way, but I think I am getting ready to start HUTH. Well, weve had a rough week. DHs best friend died suddenly in his sleep on Saturday morning, then I got food poisoning on Sunday. I got severely dehydrated, ended up in the hospital with an IV, and my supply tanked (of course) so yesterday I pumped 16oz (usually Im at around 35 oz) Today seems a bit better, but not by much. Violet is eating so much food, it is crazy. Im not sure if it is that Im still sick and my head isnt clear...but it is so tough to pump... Im thinking of introducing some sort of mamma's milk substitute. The MD said that there really isnt anything equivelant to mammas milk (I know that, of course), but what do you ladies give? I know some are doing soy, some whole cows milk, but how did you make the decision? And what about toddler formula? If she is eating a lot of food, do I need to give toddler formula or can I just give a milk product? Thanks so much..my head is just spinning thinking about not making enough for her to drink each day and that I really have to make a decision about this soon.
My supply has always been low and I've always had to supplement. I choose to supplement with formula because I think it is more appropriate than straight cow's milk or goat's milk for a baby. I also don't feel comfortable making my own homemade formula.

This is a really personal decision, though, and many people disagree with me enough to feed their own babies other mm substitutes when they have to supplement. I know people that swear by raw goat's milk and others that swear by raw cow's milk and yet others who think pasteurized cow's or goat's milk is better. Overall, it's hard to know which is the "best" substitute to give when you don't have enough breast milk, and it seems like it's a personal choice more than it is a hard science-based decision, especially the older the baby gets.

I would tend to err on the side of caution with a younger baby (which it doesn't sound like you're dealing with), and go with formula when breast milk cannot be provided.

HTH.
post #995 of 1785
Thanks, mama bear.
My dh does have dairy sensitivites, so I am cautious to use a dairy based formula. And soy makes me nervous bc of the estrogens. I dont know what would be most easily digestible for her. Urgh! This is a decision I was hoping I wouldnt need to make.
Thanks for the response!!
post #996 of 1785
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Originally Posted by JeanineTheOT View Post
Well, weve had a rough week. DHs best friend died suddenly in his sleep on Saturday morning, then I got food poisoning on Sunday. I got severely dehydrated, ended up in the hospital with an IV, and my supply tanked (of course) so yesterday I pumped 16oz (usually Im at around 35 oz)
Oh goodness, I'm so sorry for your loss. I don't have any good advice for your milk question. I think in your shoes I would give the best quality cow or goat milk I could find (assuming she really is eating a good variety of foods). I would also look up some homemade formula recipes and see if there was anything worth adding to the milk at her age. That's just what I would do though, it does seem like a personal decision.
post #997 of 1785
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Originally Posted by TrishWSU View Post
I'm joining to lurk I am almost 15 weeks preggo as a surrogate and I will be exclusivly pumping for the babe once he's here. My IM wanted to induce lactation but because of some meds she's on that are incompatible with breastfeeding she won't be able to She's still going to use a SNS w/ my EBM so they can have a breastfeeding relationship. Anyway, I just wanted to join now so I can soak up your knowledge and ask any questions as they come up.

...fading back to lurk status...
I'm a surro ep'ing for my IP's and their son! I've loved every minute of it!

i've had some wonderful insights from these women, and it's been wonderful having some place to go for more detailed support.

Do you visit SMO? There's a breastfeeding forum there too, and have found that sometimes the info there is a bit more relevant, especially if there are not supply issues. But for any challenges, this is the place!
post #998 of 1785
I had to start supplementing with goat's milk at around 14 months (allergic to cow's milk). My supply now, at almost 18 months, is very low - maybe 14-18 ounces per day. I quit keeping track of what she drinks, but I think it is around 20-28 ounces per day (depending on her hunger), so anything over what I make is from a goat. Makes me sad, but I guess I kept up with her for a long time.
post #999 of 1785
For those that switched over from bm to another type of milk, or added another type of milk, how did you do it? Did you add the milk to the bm, or offer the other milk separately?
post #1000 of 1785
hi all! just thought i stop by! jeanine--before i started cutting back on pumps, we added wcm to bottles of ebm. we tried just giving wcm on its own, but luna wouldn't have anything to do with it that way. funny thing is, she still won't drink a bottle of wcm, but she has a bottle of it before bed every night. funny girl!

swirly--fwiw i think you've done an amazing job! my dd is also a feb 06 baby, and i couldn't imagine still keeping up my supply. hang in there, and know what you've done (all of us really) is far more than most other people would do.
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