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post #21 of 46
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did you read the reviews on amazon? they were pretty impressive.
post #22 of 46
Originally Posted by Taedareth
I requested The Fat Flush Plan from the local library but it'll take a while get here. In the meantime, I saw this editorial review about it:

The keys to overweight are liver toxicity, waterlogged tissues, fear of eating fat, excess insulin, and stress, asserts nutritionist Ann Louise Gittleman. Her Fat Flush Plan addresses these problems with a targeted diet.

The Fat Flush Plan, filled with nutritional analysis and detailed explanations, is not a quick read. Despite Gittleman's assertion that the plan is "as easy as 1-2-3," it is quite regimented. No white flour, white sugar, margarine, vegetable shortening, artificial sweeteners, or caffeine. The diet emphasizes essential oils (e.g., flaxseed and GLA), protein (eight ounces or more, plus two eggs a day), vegetables, thermogenic spices (e.g., ginger and cayenne), water, and diuretic beverages (eight glasses/day of diluted, unsweetened cranberry juice). In its first two-week phase, the plan is a rigid, low calorie (1,100-1,200 calories/day), low-carb (no grains or starchy vegetables) diet. Phase two lets you increase your calories to 1,500 and add two "friendly carbs." Phase three, the "lifestyle program," moderately adds more dairy, carbs, and calories. Gittleman promotes walking and recommends strength training in phase three.

The book includes 41 recipes such as Grilled Lamb Chops with Cinnamon and Coriander, Breakfast Egg Fu Yung, and Cumin Sautéed Scallops. The Fat Flush Plan is recommended for dieters willing to commit to a strict plan for weight loss. --Joan Price
I need a strict plan or I'll never get the kick in the butt I need.

I was a size 6 and fit only 4 years ago. Now I'm not fit, though I have huge muscles under my fat. Yuck.
post #23 of 46
One very important thing to point out, that I think Taedareth may have been trying to say, is that you need to be very careful when losing weight while BFing. Each mama's body will respond to the changes differently. Obviously, monitor your milk supply by watching baby closely - pees, poops, fussiness, etc

That being said, I think the book (if I recall correctly) says it's perfectly fine for pg or bfing moms to start with phase 2 (of the three phases) and that some moms can tolerate beginning with phase 1. But PLEASE do double-check that!

The nice thing about this plan is that its focus is not the appearance of your body and the shedding of pounds (which is of course, a nice side effect) but rather the overall improvement of your health. Feed your body the natural healing foods it craves, and it will reward you with loss of cravings, the exact appropriate appetite for the amount of food you need, and a regulated metabolism that puts you in the optimal weight range for you.
post #24 of 46
Thread Starter 
as i said in the beginning, the MOST IMPORTANT thing for me is my bf'ing r/s with my son, so im certainly not going to do anything to affect that. i was under the impression that The Flush Plan was ok for bf;ing moms..i dont mind making sacrifices, but thats not one i want to make....
basically, charting my food intake and exercise is a good strategy for me and i dont mind eliminating things if it will make me healthy. as far as im concerned, i cant be healthy and overweight at the same time. they 2 are just not conducive....so, ill wiat for the book, but im weaning myself from caffeine, white sugar and white flour right now. thats really hard. also, im cutting out my milk from lunch and dinner..i think that has added to my weight gain/retainment. i love milk, but well...i like being slimmer more.
does that make senses???
post #25 of 46
Originally Posted by allnaturalmama
Feed your body the natural healing foods it craves, and it will reward you with loss of cravings, the exact appropriate appetite for the amount of food you need, and a regulated metabolism that puts you in the optimal weight range for you.
Sounds great!! Actually kind of reminds me of the Maker's Diet. I have that book too and I think it's right on. Wish I could follow the dietary guidelines but right now I don't even know how we're going to buy any food this month, let alone expensive organic foods, and unusual foods like "kefir"....

Oh, and as for the diet and exercise journal.... Suddenly I can't wait to do my exercise routine just so I can mark it down in my online journal. How nerdy is that? If I'd know that was all the motivation I needed, I'd have done this years ago.
post #26 of 46
Originally Posted by Taedareth
Suddenly I can't wait to do my exercise routine just so I can mark it down in my online journal.
We need a "pat on the back" smiley, LOL! Good for you! And, I don't think that's nerdy at all. Whatever it takes to get us motivated, I say.

Fat Flush is very similar to Maker's, but a little more phobic of the animal fats, and focuses on the liver, wheras TMD is the gut (as I'm sure you know!) DH is currently on FF, but is going to revert back to Maker's once he gets a little closer to his goal...
post #27 of 46
Thread Starter 
yeh, i cant wait to enter something other than "housework" on that part too!! i do want to see it written!!!
post #28 of 46
Thread Starter 
do you or anyone else know how you can enter a slice of pizza in the online journal? i didnt eat the whole thing! its a rule of mine to have our leftoevers for lunch and since ds1 and his friend were here last night, pizza was leftover. yes, im going to try and get better pizzas next time, but i feel i am doing better (although yesterday i didnt do well b/c i only had 1500 calories..the last thing i need my body to do is think im starving!!!).
those hershey candy bars were tempting last night around 1am when E was wide awake! ( I TELL YOU...WIDE AWAKE)...but i didnt succumb. i had water instead. from now on, when i crave junk, im going to drink water.
post #29 of 46
Thank you for posting the link to FitDay. It looks really helpful.

I find popsicles to be helpful: if juice is allowed, freezing those. Or even just frozen water or herbal tea....my boys love those too.

Now to find our popsicle maker...

post #30 of 46
Oh hey, that FitDay thing doesn't have a category for "nursing/pumping milk for baby" but I read online that producing milk burns about 500 calories per day. Whee!! A freebie for nursing moms. Anyway, I picked another activity from their drop-down menu that works out to 500 calories per day. So if you're wondering why my log says I burn 500 calories per day hunting elk, that's why.
post #31 of 46
Thread Starter 
T, OMG that is so funny! hunting elk sounds really fun! let us know how that goes!

so, i figured out how to do the public page thingy...and im adding kayaking as my "bf'ing" activity! i can wish i guess.
post #32 of 46
Thread Starter 
Studies have shown that most healthy breastfeeding women maintain an abundant milk supply while taking in 1800-2200 (or more) calories per day. Consuming less than 1500-1800 calories per day (most women should stay at the high end of this range) may put your milk supply at risk, as may a sudden drop in caloric intake. (See Can I diet while breastfeeding? for more information on calorie restriction).

just an fyi
post #33 of 46
When I used fitday I just increased my "base" level from sitting/some walking to the next one up.

As a warning, fitday seems overly generous with your "base" calorie needs. When I'm paying attention to such things, I tend to go back and forth between fitday and sparkpeople.com
post #34 of 46
Thread Starter 
wendy, do you mind me askign what you mean by baseline? right now im just using fitday to track my food intake and will begin with the exercise stuff, but i dont understand what i can adjust. of course, i just figured out how to make it "public". lol!
post #35 of 46
Woah, they've changed it a bit...

Go to "home" and you can set your "lifestyle level". Based on that and your weight, fitday calculates how many calories your body needs to keep your body going.

Hmmm, now "lifestyle" and "basal" are two separate items in the calculation of calories burned. I interpret the "basal" to be how many calories it takes to support your basic bodily functions, and the "lifestyle" as how much energy it takes to keep your body upright in a sitting position and walking to and from the kitchen, etc. Make sense?

HOWEVER, based on telling fitday that I'm female, weigh 160 pounds and that my lifestyle is "seated, some movement" it tells me I require 2506 calories to maintain my weight. I currently maintain this weight by

*eating ~2300 calories per day
*breastfeeding a 17 pound baby
*walking/running about 15 miles/week
*maintaining a garden
*doing all the laundry, including 2 loads of diapers per week
*slinging above 17 pounder to sleep 2-3 times a day.
*climbing 15-20 flights of stairs per day

Like I said before, I think fitday overestimates this "basal+lifestyle" aspect.
post #36 of 46
Thread Starter 
thanks Wendy. i didnt even consider my wearing Ethan or the garden as "activities', but they sooo are!!!! ill have to put him on me MORE and take better care of my garden!!! both are things i truly love doing!
post #37 of 46
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i think we should be able to put "wearing baby" as an activity!!! just dont know what to substitute for it..but i refuse to put all the stuff i do on there (transferring laundry...if i i did that i would be on that site all day and therefore doing nothing!lol!)

one big problem...i am really crazy with my calories. it fluctuates so much but i really am trying to eat less....but yesterday i ate over 3,000 calories. i know this is b/c dh was home and b/c we had baked beans (a can! omg!) for dinner...b/c well..the kiddos were gone (other than Ethan) and i was lazy and didnt make a veggy...but my caloric intake is all over the board!!!

check out this report (avg. for the week i guess)

Average Calories

grams cals %total Total: 2349 Fat: 73 655 29% Sat: 25 228 10% Poly: 17 155 7% Mono: 25 222 10% Carbs: 342 1235 54% Fiber: 33 0 0% Protein: 100 401 18% Alcohol: 0 0 0%

post #38 of 46
You can do it! I will be your cheerleader!

I've spent the last 7 years of my life overweight...until now. Since I had Daphne and I am 99% sure she is my last one I needed a kick in the butt. I have been miserable for 7 YEARS.....and that isnt any way to live. So anyways, in January I started weight watchers (not through them, I just use info free info from dwlz.com so I dont have to pay for it) and I am happy to say I have lost 85 pounds since I had her (55 since starting WW). It hasnt affected my milk supply at all, daphne is a huge chunk and poops all the time, so I know she is getting enough. She doesnt even need solids at all. I do add 10 pts a day for bf'ing. I was 230+ at my highest and I am currently 145. (My goal is 140 so I have 5 more to go plus this stomach flab is horrible but hey, what can you do but try?!)

I have kept track of my weightloss through fit day but I never have the time to enter everything I eat. I do keep a mental track of my points but I have a weird number memory thing, if I didnt I would definately write it down. Writing down makes it visable to see what you are eating that is ok and what is not.
post #39 of 46
WOW!! Huge round of applause for Desiree!!!

Question for you experienced weightloss mamas - I've been working out every day for 7 days now. Um.... when does the weight magically begin to drop off??

Also, let's discuss some of the fringe benefits of exercise! From the first day I've felt more energetic, and psychologically I feel good about what I'm doing. Yay for exercise!
post #40 of 46
FOr me, I can exercise all day but I still have to change my food or else the weight doesnt come off. I dont know why it works like that. But from exercise I do notice an increase an energy and ultimately, that is what will get rid of the flub. LOL I walk on the treadmill but only in 20 minute increments and about 3 times a week. Sometimes we will walk outside instead and push the kids in the double stroller and take the dogs. They PULL me the entire way but hey, keeping up with them gives me some "resistance" training right?! HAHA I do need to do better on exercise. I used to love belly dancing, I should try that again.

Rach- I just read over your logs...a few tips that work for me....

instead of whole grain bread slices, whole grain english muffins have less calories...I like turkey, sprouts, tomato on mine. If chemicals dont bother you then some fat free cream cheese too. Or mustard if I am in an anti chemical mood. LOL I do water only for thirst but I do have 2 cups of coffee in the morning (with Vanilla coffeemate creamer ) but I measure the creamer out to an exact serving size so that I dont have to double the calories/fat. I eat total cereal or special K red berries with nonfat milk everyday just cause I like it but oatmeal is a good breakfast too and more filling. I do alot of fruit for breakfast too, especially if I am on the go.

For lunch I do alot of pinto beans (or black beans) on white corn tortillas with chicken (I make a bunch at once and then put it in the fridge so its easy to just throw together) and a tomato/onion/garlic/cilantro salsa that I make (then I dont even notice that there is no cheese, or if I want cheese I do a small amount of low skim mozzy.) When I am feeling snacky I use that salsa on baked chips. Or I put it on rice cakes. I keep lots of rice cakes for snacks, baby organic carrots, plain yogurt with real fruit, apples, pineapple, popcorn (I buy microwave 94% fat free but you can pop your own with no fat if you want). I need a sweet here and there too so I usually keep skinny cow ice cream bars on hand. LOL Its better to forgo sugar all together but I just cant. Well I COULD I suppose but I dont really want to. LOL Or if we are out and about I order a 12 oz nonfat vanilla latte or 12 oz nonfat caramel macchiato and it gives me my sweet "fix." On weekends I do a glass of wine as my "dessert."

For pizza...you can get a lower fat version too. Sometimes I buy the WW brand veggie pizza (or lean cuisine or whatever low fat brand) for when I am in a hurry but otherwise I usually just have regular pizza (like if we are out) and I have veggie/cheese and no more than 2 slices (which is 10 of the 30 pts a day I allow myself.) Before I could have eaten 4 no problem..but I've been working hard at portion control and after awhile you feel full faster. Eat slow too, I read that it takes 20 minutes for your stomach/mind to send the message that you are full.

Dinners lately are alot of crockpot meals, tonight is chicken (frozen skinless bonelss breast) with teriyaki and vegetables. A bit of rice usually but we are out so chicken and veggies it is. LOL I like to go out to sushi too and most everything at a sushi place is acceptable on the lowfat/low calorie "diet." There are tons of lowfat cookbooks out there too. I've been using recipes from Quick 30 min meals from Weight Watchers and there is a 15 min section too which I like better. LOL
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