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too many US harmful to baby?

post #1 of 26
Thread Starter 
I heard a bunch of people say that too many US are potentially harmful to the baby.
Do you guys know what the source of this warning is?
Also what is too many US?

I didn't hear this with my first baby (only had 2 US with first one anyway),so I would like to find out what this is all about.
Share your knowledge please : )
post #2 of 26
Not in your group, but thought I'd respond. Do some searches here, there were some links not long ago. Here are the links I've saved:

http://www.midwiferytoday.com/articl...oundwagner.asp
http://www.midwiferytoday.com/articles/ultrasound.asp
http://www.alternamoms.com/ultrasound.html
http://www.compleatmother.com/ultrasound_danger.htm
http://www.childbirth.org/articles/efm1.html
http://www.midwiferytoday.com/searc...sounds&x=30&y=9
http://www.mothering.com/articles/p...definition.html
http://www.aims.org.uk/Journal/Vol11No4/ultrasound.htm
http://www.aims.org.uk/Journal/Vol11No4/ultra2.htm
http://www.aimsusa.org/ultrasnd.htm
http://www.mothering.com/articles/p...ound-risks.html
http://www.aims.org.uk/Journal/Vol1...chRoundup.htm#2
http://kidshealth.org/parent/pregna..._snapshots.html


Personally I will never have any ultrasounds without a real medical reason.

-Angela
post #3 of 26
Angela! Thank you for these links. You are a gem. :
post #4 of 26
On this same topic, what about the doppler device used to hear the baby's heartbeat. I was told by an OB that it uses the same sound waves as an ultrasound uses (in other words, "Why are you balking against getting an ultrasound, silly girl? You let your midwife listen for the heartbeat with a doppler...")

Any thoughts or information on doppler?
post #5 of 26
Doppler also uses ultrasound, some say it's worse. I refused all prenatal doppler. I did allow it in labor.

-Angela
post #6 of 26
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Originally Posted by alegna
Doppler also uses ultrasound, some say it's worse. I refused all prenatal doppler. I did allow it in labor.

-Angela
Wow! It looks like I've got some more reading to do. I knew that there is some risk. After all, it is radiation, like U/S. We used the doppler a few times with DS. No U/S, though. I think that by 12 weeks or so, they can hear the baby with a fetoscope. So, I guess we will go with that.

Jean <-------:Puke
post #7 of 26
It generally takes until 18-20 weeks to hear a baby with a fetoscope. 12 weeks for doppler.

-Angela
post #8 of 26
I don't want to look at the links b/c I have u/s's scheduled for medical reasons. I'll freak myself out if I look. I needed quite a few last time too with ds. I think they have a time and a place and when it's used for the baby's health (or mommas) I think they are okay. I wish I had pregnancies where I didn't need them.
post #9 of 26
I refuse to having US's for any reason, but mind you that is my opinion. My midwife wont use doppler unless it is during labor.
post #10 of 26
argh.. don't tell me this.. I have to go to see a specialist every 4 weeks and they will be doing an ultrasound everytime because I am a super high risk ..and they want to make sure baby is developing correctly.. now I amgonna be all paranoid...
post #11 of 26
You can always refuse the u/s. It is very rare that they are truly needed.

-Angela
post #12 of 26
Most of the links in the pp were dead. I read one that showed abnormalities in cell division in a lab test on mice. The other links I could read mostly considered us unsafe b/c they can lead to more invasive procedures, ie c-sections.

As with all decisions in pregnancy, I think you have to weigh the positives vs. negatives. If you are high-risk, or your baby could be in danger of IUGR or something else that the us can diagnose, then I think the benefit outweighs the risk.
post #13 of 26
Sorry about that- I put the links together about a year ago, I'll check through them before I post them again. A google for ultrasound dangers should get you some reading material. Yes, sometimes they can be quite useful medically. My issue with them is having them for ALL pregnancies and all the time.

-Angela
post #14 of 26
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the responses guys!
post #15 of 26
Hi there

I've read through all the previous posts, but I still can't see any concrete reason why people would think that there is anything wrong with u/s.

Please could someone spell it out for the hard of hearing

I believe that they are safe for a number of reasons. Firstly a gazillion people have them every year. If there really was something bad happening, wouldn't someone have noticed something by now? In this litigious society have there been any lawsuits brought against the makers of these machines?

This is SUCH a risk averse country, doctors are covering their behinds all the time, if there was a sniff of something awful happening, they would all stop immediately.

Long live Elvis

Peace and love

Nicola
post #16 of 26
The deal with ultrasound and doppler is that they create heat, which then heats up the baby's cells. I've seen a video of fetal cell reproduction before and after ultrasound. The "after" part was quite drastic--the cells were dividing improperly and looked chaotic. Who knows if this can have subtle long-term effects or not.
post #17 of 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicola
Hi there

I've read through all the previous posts, but I still can't see any concrete reason why people would think that there is anything wrong with u/s.

Please could someone spell it out for the hard of hearing

I believe that they are safe for a number of reasons. Firstly a gazillion people have them every year. If there really was something bad happening, wouldn't someone have noticed something by now? In this litigious society have there been any lawsuits brought against the makers of these machines?

This is SUCH a risk averse country, doctors are covering their behinds all the time, if there was a sniff of something awful happening, they would all stop immediately.

Long live Elvis

Peace and love

Nicola
For years and years it was routine to x-ray pregnant women. EVERYONE did it. It was FINE. The babies were fine. Wanna sign up for one?

-Angela
post #18 of 26
I've done some research on this and found it was common in the 1920's, but already then some alarm bells were ringing even though the practice was still used until the 1950's. There have been mistakes made throughout the whole of medical history but that doesn't mean that all progress is bad.

So your argument against u/s is that X-rays proved to be harmful so who knows what u/s's are doing to our babies? It is my opinion that this is a spurious argument. It's like saying thalidamine causes birth defects so I'm not going to take any of the anti-nausea medicine that is availible today for my hyperemesis gravidar.

There is such a system of checks and balances in todays medicine that I believe nothing like x-rays would ever happen again. Sometimes you have to have faith in progress.

Peace

Nicola
post #19 of 26
My mother had an x-ray in 1973 in a progressive teaching hospital in order to confirm her twin pregnancy. I also think that blindly thinking that the medical profession knows/behaves best is an extremely naive way to make decisions. Litigation does not always result in the best practices being used- malpractice often does not lead to the safest way of doing things-- just look at the c-section rate of over 50% in some hospitals.

Until testing has been done to determine whether or not these machines that heat cells cause damage, I will be skipping them. I don't judge people who have routine ultrasound screening (even if the reasons are silly- to know the sex? to bond with the baby?) but if someone asked my advice, I would implore them to limit the number that they get. and I am talking about routine screenings, not people who are trying to monitor high risk conditions.

There are other non-safety related issues .. un-needed ultrasounds cost the taxpayer and raise health insurance costs for everyone, for instance.
post #20 of 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by alegna
For years and years it was routine to x-ray pregnant women. EVERYONE did it. It was FINE. The babies were fine. Wanna sign up for one?

-Angela
I'm with Nicola on this one. I don't think I'm going to change anything I'm doing just because someone that isn't even in this group came in a showed up with a bunch of dead links. I could give you the same number of links why it MAY be harmful for you to walk outside, or down the road. I understand that people are curious, I do. But I think that it's just a little wrong to tell people that have medical problems that it's never really needed. Maybe it is. Maybe it's the only thing saving that Mama's sanity. Who knows. I'm not a high risk pregnancy. But, I'm waiting for the day for my U/S. Knowing that it's coming is the only thing keeping me calm. As with my previous two, I'm not going to be able to rest until I can see it for myself.:
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