Anti-Dr. Anyone else? - Page 2

[Shiloh]

my grandfather (died at 94) went to see a doctor once in like 30 years before he got a small stroke at 92. (and it was to have a skin cancer removed) he would say I go see the doctor they will find something wrong at my age and try to fix it, and while trying to fix it they will kill me.

he's kinda right

Me I go for what needs to be done, broken bones, I do go once a year for a height weight type thing and some blood work but I also hate the type of doctor that will dole out high cholesterol pills without telling the patient to change diet even it it means to go vegetarian to stop it.

Mind you my doctor rocks I can't get antiboitics off her if I bribed her.
3 kids 18 years of kid time and I have gotten one script for pnemonia for the baby that's it. (and it was seen on xray) she will only give me sulpha most of the time. She's also too honest with me 'you're fat get out and walk, loose the weight before it causes problems' meanwhile I have friends that are 100 pounds overweight ( i was carrying about 40 extra) with diabetis and their doctors would never be that honest with them..... sigh mine is.

my dd has mild scoliosis and thank god she x'ed the every 3 month xrays and sent me to a chiro (who will feel more anyhow than those rays) she also refuses to give me birth control pills as they are too dangerous.... many people want 'customer service' not the type of relationship I have with my GP

but to the mama who said:

she's strong and healthy and has no sign of problems ever she's still got that asthma label

get her properly evaluated for athsma I got that label and when I enlisted I had to disclose all diagnosises I laughed at that one as I had never even had one single attack up until the age of 19 but my family quack doctor dx'd it from some childhood wheezing.... so they sent me for those challenge tests = holy crap I was fully athsmatic and got a big talking to from the therapist who said you can go your whole life without experiencing it but you do have the condition underlying and when my body is pushed will have an attack under the right cirumstances so not to carry a rescue inhaler means you could become very ill or die....so its in my purse now but I still do wonder mind you...

well I smell poo sigh a mamas job never done...

[momto l&a]

I believe there is a time and place for Dr's such as in extreme emergency or for some of their diagnostic machines.

For general run of the mill illness we stay home and take lots of Vitamin C.

We rarely get sick. And I think it because of decent diet proper vitamins and minerals to prevent deficiencies. Deficiencies that cause us to get the flu and whatever have you.

[Yin Yang]

Shiloh ~ WOW to your doctor!! WOW WOW WOW! She rocks! One in million....

[Shiloh]

yeah but
my friend who was ultra crunchy in her first year practicing read her the riot act publically and told her she would report her for perscribing antiboitics for a viral infection as it wasn't the perscribed method of treatment...since then no antiboitics unless you are dying. Mind you I went to a walkin and the baby had an open infection skin - the doctor said he won't perscribe antis for children without pnemonia or a life altering condition as it affects growth,height and is nasty for the growing body.

she also won't give me a disablity cert as she thinks working is best/having the abilty to work emmotionally although she aknowledges I more than qualify for disablity. I respect her for that as even though I am SAHM and that disablity pension would rock now...sigh. But she's tough on me, the only thing that gets me is she wants me to tie my tubes 3 kids disabled yeah I get it but...

yeah she's okay.
ps I am in Canada though...

[Yin Yang]

I guess there is ALWAYS something about everyone.

When my DS was born we had the greatest pediatrician who totally believed in homebirths - even came to our house after the birth so I didn't have to come to the office!! He rocked!! He basicly told us there is no point coming to him if we don't vax. These were his words: you need to have a doctor in case of emergencies, you don't need to pay us to come and have your child weighted and measured! Then you DO WANNA go to a doctor like that because they are just great to talk to!
The funny thing is - he really believed every doctor was like him! We moved and I never bothered to try to find someone like him.

[Shiloh]

These were his words: you need to have a doctor in case of emergencies, you don't need to pay us to come and have your child weighted and measured! Then you DO WANNA go to a doctor like that because they are just great to talk to!

lol so true, have you read how to raise a healthy child in spite of your doctor? I am lucky my doctor doesn't 'do' well baby visits but I have friends that go once a month with their kids until they are like 3.... well not close friends

Like what for? I mean you know if your kid is too skinny, if they have a fever (I don't even own a thermometre) I figure you know when your kid is hot and if they have problems I am not going to justify oh it was only 102, that's their job.

[Attached Mama]

I agree docs are only for emergencies such as broken bones etc. However I bring DD to a ped (no vax tho) so that if God forbid I ever do have to go to the ER I don't get reported for not having ever brought her to a doc. Seriously I think her ped visits are a joke....

[rareimer]

i don't go to the doctor. maybe i would if something was really seriously wrong, and i didn't know what it was or how to treat it. (same goes for my kids.) if i know what's wrong, i will find out myself about ways i can treat it, naturally, and i go to the doctor as seldom as possible.

i can usually tell what he'll say about something before i even see him, and every time i do go, i think, "this is going to be a big waste of time." and every single time, it is. so i just stopped going for the most part, and me and my family have never been healthier.

i prefer to treat with homeopathics, herbs, or just plain old TLC and watchful waiting. and a healthy diet and lifestyle--we are healthier than ever this way, so we have no need for a doc most of the time. i don't want to take drugs or give drugs to my kids. i know that is all the doctor will be able to suggest, so why go?

[boongirl]

I see a naturopathic doctor for my normal medical stuff, like checkups and thyroid care and minor issues. If there is something she cannot handle, she will refer me out. But, I will never, ever, as long as I live, go to an allergy/immunologist again. They are voodoo docs, imo. Those dang shots nearly ruined my immune system.

[Arwyn]

I'm not anti-doc, but I am mostly anti-allopathic medicine except for emergencies. I think checkups are ok, although so's not doing them, within a naturopathic model.

Honestly, I've seen as many scare-mongering, "you'll die without my services" chiropractors as I have MDs like that. Which goes to show it's not the modality (both chiropracty and allopathy have a lot to offer, although allopathy is also very dangerous), it's the practitioner that matters.

I do love my naturopath, and I think holistic medicine is definitely the way to go, although last time I had strep throat that became strep throat plus a sinus infection, and I threw up when I tried to take the prescribed tincture, I did resort to antibiotics. Ah well. I'm glad they're there, even if they are way, way overused.

[Nora'sMama]

I do go to the doctor if I really think they can help me, but I'm pretty skeptical of allopathic doctors (although there are some really smart ones out there - it's possible to get lucky). I see the doctor's role as my employee, someone who can give me the expert advice I need to make my OWN decisions. Problem is, some doctors don't see it that way - they see themselves as the decision-makers, and tell their patients only part of the story (the part they decide the patient "needs" to know).

I won't get into my issues with Western medicine in general, except to say that I am of a similar opinion to Dr. Andrew Weil - Western medicine can do great things in emergency medicine, when dealing with trauma, surgery, and a few other things. Other than that, it is not actually great for your health. For PROMOTING health, there are many therapies to look at and the whole body (and mind) must be considered IMO. If medical research were not based in capitalism and if it were predicated on a disease-PREVENTION approach rather than a disease-TREATMENT approach, I would have far more reason to trust MDs in general.

That said, I don't necessarily trust alternative practitioners any more than I trust MDs. I like to verify information about health from as many sources as I can, although often I am very bad about not following the things I know I should be doing to improve my health...but I'm great at getting the info and figuring out whether to trust it! My father was seeing an herbalist who gave him all kinds of stuff to take without telling him what it was or what it was supposed to do specifically - I would NEVER go for this. There is no practitioner, MD, DO, acupuncturist or whatever, that I would follow blindly the way my dad does with his doctors and his herbalist. I don't understand it, but that's just his mindset - when I asked him why he doesn't research the drugs or herbs he takes on the Internet, he said that that's what he pays the doctor/herbalist to do. I guess that's a pretty common way of looking at things, but it's a risky one IMO.

[Attila the Honey]

Originally Posted by Shiloh

but to the mama who said:
get her properly evaluated for athsma I got that label and when I enlisted I had to disclose all diagnosises I laughed at that one as I had never even had one single attack up until the age of 19 but my family quack doctor dx'd it from some childhood wheezing.... so they sent me for those challenge tests = holy crap I was fully athsmatic and got a big talking to from the therapist who said you can go your whole life without experiencing it but you do have the condition underlying and when my body is pushed will have an attack under the right cirumstances so not to carry a rescue inhaler means you could become very ill or die....so its in my purse now but I still do wonder mind you...

well I smell poo sigh a mamas job never done...

I understand what you are saying, I have the misfortune of having alot of asthma in my extended family. My sister is asthmatic, and I grew up seeing what it did to her. So, when my dd was diagnosed at 1yo I was a wreck! However, 18+mo later she doesn't exhibit a single one of the many symptoms that led them to tell us she has asthma. Not one. Not only that, she no longer has chronic ear infections (she had an ear infection for 5mo straight), she no longer has a chronic runny nose, eczema... She became a different kid after we gave up dairy, even mainstream family members saw it.

I know for a fact she doesn't have asthma, she was just had a food allergy. Or maybe she did have asthma, but doesn't know that she is no longer eating dairy.

Like your grandfather I am sure if i went to a doc they'd find something wrong with her and find a way of treating it that would lead to all kinds of side effects. I don't even want to go down that path, I see no reason for it since she's a perfectly happy and healthy little girl.

[gentlebirthmothr]

Originally Posted by Nora'sMama

I do go to the doctor if I really think they can help me, but I'm pretty skeptical of allopathic doctors (although there are some really smart ones out there - it's possible to get lucky). I see the doctor's role as my employee, someone who can give me the expert advice I need to make my OWN decisions. Problem is, some doctors don't see it that way - they see themselves as the decision-makers, and tell their patients only part of the story (the part they decide the patient "needs" to know).

I won't get into my issues with Western medicine in general, except to say that I am of a similar opinion to Dr. Andrew Weil - Western medicine can do great things in emergency medicine, when dealing with trauma, surgery, and a few other things. Other than that, it is not actually great for your health. For PROMOTING health, there are many therapies to look at and the whole body (and mind) must be considered IMO. If medical research were not based in capitalism and if it were predicated on a disease-PREVENTION approach rather than a disease-TREATMENT approach, I would have far more reason to trust MDs in general.

That said, I don't necessarily trust alternative practitioners any more than I trust MDs. I like to verify information about health from as many sources as I can, although often I am very bad about not following the things I know I should be doing to improve my health...but I'm great at getting the info and figuring out whether to trust it! My father was seeing an herbalist who gave him all kinds of stuff to take without telling him what it was or what it was supposed to do specifically - I would NEVER go for this. There is no practitioner, MD, DO, acupuncturist or whatever, that I would follow blindly the way my dad does with his doctors and his herbalist. I don't understand it, but that's just his mindset - when I asked him why he doesn't research the drugs or herbs he takes on the Internet, he said that that's what he pays the doctor/herbalist to do. I guess that's a pretty common way of looking at things, but it's a risky one IMO.

nora'smama,