Retract to pee?

[kimkabob5]

My dd's boyfriend is intact (and very outspoken, LOL). He said the only thing he doesn't like is that he has to retract to pee or the urine will get all over.

This got me thinking. My five year old ds does not retract to pee and he gets it all over the place. Should we teach him to pull it back a bit when he urinates???

[Lact-o-Mama]

Hmmmm. I wouldn't think that would be necessary.
My DH is intact and I have never witnessed him retract to pee. However, maybe depending on the amount of flesh at the tip, it may be necessary?
Let's see what the other Mammas have to say...

[Islay]

Before I developed the results of acquired phimosis badly enough to prevent my foreskin retracting, I never retracted to pee and never had a problem with 'aiming'. Not even as a boy.

Later, I chose to sit down at home... or find a urinal if away. It's possible that a few intact males may find a problem with it, but not many.

However, now that I have no foreskin I must say that sitting causes problems. I will explain if it's not innapropriate to do so, but for now I will leave it at that.

Christopher

[MCatLvrMom2A&X]

I think u could ask him if he wanted to do that. If he does then he can but if he dosnt want to I wouldnt insist on it. At 5yo u can tell him how to do it I am sure he knows that it will move around I would explain it a bit I dont think I would try to attempt to show him by doing it on him since no one but him should be trying to do it.

[sadkitty]

Okay Islay spill it (bad pun sorry )
I told DH I was going to teach DS to pee sitting down. It just seems so much more tidy. He thought that was weird. He is cut DS is not, so he must have a different undrestanding of the mechanics of it. I just know that a lot of little boys I know have baaad aim and lead to smelly bathrooms.

[ericswifey27]

My son's only 2 1/2 and still sits on his little potty to pee, no retracting necessary at this stage for him anyway.

[veganf]

Well, my 3 year old can't retract yet, and he's FAR neater in the bathroom than my circ'd husband. So honestly I think it's just habit, or shape, but nothing to do with intact or no.

[Yoshua]

only if he already retracts already. that is something to teach him after he retracts himself and shows you he can. but yeah, that is what intact guys do when they pee if they can retract

[Bm31]

I'd have to say that sounds like a pretty minor complaint. You have to grab your penis when you urinate anyhow, how much harder is it really to pull back on the skin enough to expose the end?

You want to talk erratic, I remember when I had the meatal stenosis and subsequent meatotomy thanks to my re-circ. It was impossible to control. It settled down some, but mostly I just got use to what was "normal" for me. Even now, if I get up in the middle of the night and am half-awake I know it's better if I just sit down. I don't have my mommy or a wife around to clean up after me, lol.

I suspect it's different for every guy as well, circ'd or not. I only have one male friend (from Mexico) who I suspect is intact; he's never left a mess in my bathroom. The two sloppiest pigs I've had to clean up my bathroom after they leave have both admitted they are circ'd. So it all really depends on the individual.

[Revamp]

Chris you have piqued my curiousity now!

I am intact and generally leave quite a mess either way really, I tend to sit.

[Pandora114]

My hubby retracts to pee. He doesn't care, it helps him aim.

This is another situation where "Milage may vary"

Each man is different, each foreskin is different, each man has his own technique for urination, be it retract shake replace or retract dab replace or not retracting at all...or whatever.

I'm going to bed now.

So it's all up to the individual man weather he wishes to retract to pee or not.

[Marsupialmom]

When my son was a toddler he retracted just a little bit the tip barely peeking out....he discovered this on his own but it might have been trail and err. We also helped him clean up any messes he made so I think he put it together.

I would be more consernt teaching him to tidy up after himself. My nephew, circ'ed, was a messy until his uncle (my dh) started making him clean up after himself.

[calngavinsmom]

My sons are intact and my elder can pee sitting or standing with no real aiming or spraying. A friend of mine has a circed son and has had potty learning issues with him because his penis doesn't have enough length to it to be able to point it down while sitting. She has had to buy one of those "pee guards" to attach to the toilet seat so it doesn't just spray straight out.

I think having a foreskin helps to direct the pee down into the toilet, whether sitting or standing. The only reason I can think of for spraying would be maybe if the skin was bunched up funny in front of the hole or something? As far as getting your son to try retracting a bit to pee, I can't see any harm in it really, as long as his penis is ready for it. I know personally, the less time spent cleaning the "toilet region" the better

Take care,
Tara

[4chunut1]

Originally Posted by calngavinsmom

...As far as getting your son to try retracting a bit to pee, I can't see any harm in it really, as long as his penis is ready for it.
Tara

I agree. I am an intact adult, and retract just enough to insure the opening to the uthrea is clear. This promotes a small stream and eliminates spraying. Retracting all the way back off the glans is unnecessary for me. If I do retract all the way, the glans, freed from the constricting foreskin, fills with blood and increases markedly in size; then when the foreskin is replaced, does not return to its normal position, and the end of the glans remains exposed. A few "tugs" on the end of the foreskin are necessary to return it to its normal position.

[Islay]

I was going to post individually to others, but some have already implied or directly given an answer! So a general reply will suffice.

Now that I have no foreskin, my penis tends to 'stand away' from my body; it protrudes, as if semi-erect. Depending upon the size and shape of the toilet seat (and, by golly, they do vary!), when I sit I'm in danger of the flow shooting forward, under the seat but above the rim of the bowl. Clearing up the spill is not pleasant; so now I habitually hold my penis down, regardless.

When I had a retractable foreskin, it was only necessary to pull it back sufficiently to expose the meatus. (I recall competitions when I was a boy!)

All in all, making a mess is NOT acceptable. If a foreskin balloons, then suddenly spurts (as does happen), he should retract far enough to prevent it or, if he can't, he should sit, use a urinal or 'go' outside.

To the OP: I suggest you teach him to habitually push his penis down - show him how, if needs be. That way, even if he never retracts his foreskin when urinating, he will not make a mess. A circumcised penis can spray, too, by the way - sometimes simply because it has no foreskin!

Oh, and please keep in mind that fresh urine is sterile. Never worry if a little remains under his foreskin: his next pee will wash it out. Once he can fully retract, cleaning is a doddle!

Christopher

[SJane01]

Originally Posted by kimkabob5

My dd's boyfriend is intact (and very outspoken, LOL). He said the only thing he doesn't like is that he has to retract to pee or the urine will get all over.

This got me thinking. My five year old ds does not retract to pee and he gets it all over the place. Should we teach him to pull it back a bit when he urinates???

our 13yo asked this question to his doctor and his doctor said.. "if you want to, its up to you but you dont have to"

[Mama Poot]

Originally Posted by kimkabob5

My dd's boyfriend is intact (and very outspoken, LOL). He said the only thing he doesn't like is that he has to retract to pee or the urine will get all over.

This got me thinking. My five year old ds does not retract to pee and he gets it all over the place. Should we teach him to pull it back a bit when he urinates???

Only if you know for absolute sure that his foreskin is retractable. For many boys, it is not until as late as 10 or 14. DH is intact and said his was not retractable until he was about 7 or 8, and was not totally comfortable retracting it for several years after. Just be careful!! If the pee goes everywhere, I would just have him sit down to pee. Sitting down actually empties their bladder more efficiently anyhow.

[Islay]

Originally Posted by Mama Poot

If the pee goes everywhere, I would just have him sit down to pee. Sitting down actually empties their bladder more efficiently anyhow.

Yes! Which is why in my previous post I said: "I suggest you teach him to habitually push his penis down - show him how, if needs be. That way, even if he never retracts his foreskin when urinating, he will not make a mess."

Retracting to pee is not a necessity unless he balloons. And until his prepuce has separated from his glans, he cannot retract, anyway.

Christopher

[hubris]

Originally Posted by sadkitty

I told DH I was going to teach DS to pee sitting down. It just seems so much more tidy. He thought that was weird. He is cut DS is not, so he must have a different undrestanding of the mechanics of it. I just know that a lot of little boys I know have baaad aim and lead to smelly bathrooms.

I didn't introduce Griff to standing and thought, hey, if he always sits to pee, so be it. Well, eventually a little boy will figure out he can pee standing up, and judging by Griff's reaction, you would think it was the greatest discovery in the whole wide world. He stands to pee now every chance he gets and even tells me "I'm a boy, I stand up to wee-wee. You're a girl, you can't stand up to wee-wee." Nobody ever told him "boys must stand" but he has invented this little bit of chauvanism on his own.

So at least for us, there was no preventing it. Men, God bless 'em, will stand to pee one way or another. You can't hold back the tide.

About the mess - DH and I have been discussing this lately because sometimes Griff does really well and other times we get drips all over the place. The issue does not seem to be foreskin, it seems to be a matter of making sure that they finish dripping/dribbling BEFORE going to put it back in their pants. You know how men might do a little shake, or a squeeze? They're getting rid of that drip. If Griff doesn't make sure he's all the way done and get the drips out, then he dribbles over the edge of the toilet. THAT is where the ring around the toilet base comes from.

So it's totally NOT a foreskin issue, it has to do with learning the mechanics of peeing with a penis in general.

And FWIW, I have three circ'ed brothers and they managed to dribble and sprinkle plenty!

[Pandora114]

My DH's biggest fear with my DD was her seeing him pee and thinking she could do it standing.

He had to take her into the men's bathroom one time because he REALLY had to go, and she kept trying to peek. He explained to her that Daddys and boys can pee standing up, she is a little girl so she has to pee sitting down or she'll make a big mess. She hasn't tried to challenge that yet, and I'm glad.