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post #21 of 46
Hugs Mamas! I'm an oversupply mom whose is really great friends with a woman whose milk just never flowed. Her babe is almost two now, and mine is 3 weeks and a day. Even though I have milkies to feed the neighborhood, my little one has a lot of trouble at the breast. She gags, spits, acts like she is drowning. I do what I can, but she does get some expressed milk from a bottle almost daily, just so that I can know she having a peaceful feed from me. Yes, the bonding is totally there with a bottle. We still sit quietly and she still gazes at me adoringly. Don't let people make you feel guilty for doing what is best for your baby. Lord knows, we moms stack enough guilt on ourselves when things don't go like we envisioned. I've gotten some looks from moms who see me bottle feed Annabelle. I feel like I could tell them it is breastmilk, but who are they to judge me and why should I justify the decision I made that I feel is best for my baby. You are all fabulous moms who are doing everything possible to care and bless your beautiful babies. Keep up the good work!
post #22 of 46
Actually the yahoo group MOBI (mothers overcoming breastfeeding issues) DOES have a card. If you're a MOBI member you can get there at:

http://f3.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/0GGYRN4...%202-sided.gif

Otherwise you have to sign up then go to their "files" section and browse thru there.

Just another reason not to assume too much about other people
post #23 of 46
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Originally Posted by cielle
This is a good point. I know one of the hardest things for me was the feeling that since I wasn't bfing I didn't matter. Anyone could take care of the baby and I could just disappear (yeah, I was a tad depressed. )
And I thought I was the only one who feels this way sometimes. We can't even do bottlenursing because ds doesn't eat by mouth at all. It's kind of hard to just sit and hold him for a feeding that lasts 1 hour.
post #24 of 46
marcy, I am so sorry you are feeling judged, especially by people who you respect and value. I have never been in your situation, so I cannot speak from the same experience, however, I do know how you feel about the need to explain yourself. I feel this way in regards to my age, like I should have shirts with my age printed on it, so people quit judging me and assuming I am eighteen!

You know,what I have found to work the best? Having the mindset of not really caring what others think, since they are not supporting you, are not essential to you or your kids happiness, and have no idea who and what you are about. As long as you know what is going on and your child knows how much love you have, then that is all that matters.
post #25 of 46
You are not alone... a lot of adoptive mamas have been ruminating about this and other related topics.
You'd think that on this board, you would get the benefit of the doubt and folks would assume that if you are here you are aware of AP and trying to do your best!
post #26 of 46
I try to live by this philosophy: I can't change what other people think or do. I can only change my reaction to it.

I've had to make decisions in my life that might make me look bad to other people. It can be so hard not to care what others think. However, having been judged - sometimes fairly, most of the time unfairly - by others, I've realized that caring what they think is a road I don't need to travel down. All I care about is whether or not I feel I did the best job I could with the information and support I had at the time. Did I learn something? Can I turn it into something positive by helping others in the same situation? Doing so can be very healing to the soul. Once I feel good about my experiences, I can turn a blind eye to whatever people say or think. Also, it's important to remember that everyone is looking at you and casting some kind of judgement based on their own experiences and biases. They see the world through lenses you can't possibly look through. Often, the people who are the most judgemental have the biggest feelings of insecurity. That's something that I can say from past experience. I was that person for a long time.

I have two sons with hearing loss. As a result, I have to speak up when I talk to them. I raise my voice more than a lot of parents I know for obvious reasons! That makes me louder and it often means I get inquisitive or even negative looks from people at the mall, the park, etc. "That woman is a screamer. Imagine her at home!" is a comment I'm sure has been said or thought more than once.

Oh well. I can honestly say I don't care. I've made my peace with the fact that I have to be louder. You can make your peace with the fact that you have a low milk supply to contend with. And when you do, other people's judgements will become their own burden and not yours to carry
post #27 of 46
I was just lying down with my baby and thinking about this post. Can I offer you a small reality check: Your baby is healthy. You are healthy. You did the best you could. You're doing the best you can. You will continue to do the best you know how and are able to do. Tell everyone else to piss off.

I wouldn't take my baby out with milk for the longest time. I wouldn't feed him from a bottle in front of my friends. He'll latch, but he can't get the milk. It's there. It just doesn't happen for him. Why should I be ashamed? Why should I be embarassed? But I was. And I still am.

I don't know if I will outlive my child. I face the very real possibility that my child will die just about at any moment. We've had it happen several times that he was almost there, if I hadn't intervened somehow...he wouldn't be here. But still, I'm embarassed about how my baby eats from a bottle?

What is wrong with me to feel this way? Why can't I possibly just let it go and move on? Because IT HURTS. I've fed a baby at the breast. I know the difference. I can't fathom choosing to feed a baby from a bottle. I can't fathom choosing not to use a supplementer at the breast. I can't imagine choosing any number of things. But I sure as H*LL can't understand the IDIOCY that comes out of the mouths of people who are supposed to be my friends. People who should know, who have heard, who should, by now, understand how hard I've worked, how hard I've tried, how hard my baby has worked, how hard my baby has tried.

People who should know better have said things to me like: "What is wrong with you? You know your older son didn't gain weight so well either." "What is wrong with you? My baby did fine on formula." "There is no such thing as a formula induced coma." "Doctors are smart. Why wouldn't they understand what's going on? Maybe nothing really is going on. Maybe it's in your head."

What is wrong with people that they just have completely lost their ability to have a CLUE?!

And what is wrong with me that it still hurts and that I still give a d*mn what they think?

Love your baby. Nothing else matters.

mv
post #28 of 46
Oh mamas... I've been ruminating on posting something similar to this thread for a while now. I've been seeing a lot of posts here and on another email list that just bring back all the feelings I thought I’d finally laid to rest. Feelings of inadequacy and guilt, questions of whether or not there was something else I could have, should have tried.

No, please make no mistake, I'm not advocating for the willfully ignorant or the lazy, whom I know is who the offending comments are truly aimed at. I just wish that more ladies realized that for every mama out there who just decided not to breastfeed because she didn't feel like it, there is another, sitting at home or in the bathroom at work or school, strapped to stupid, f@$%ing machine, trying to do what's best for her baby. There's a whole, small army out there of struggling women who are pounding tea and herbs, experimenting with pharmaceuticals and feeling betrayed by their own bodies. Until you've struggled with it, watched your baby lose weight and cry for hours from hunger and frustration, there is no way you can realize how lonely and difficult a road it can be. Particularly when surrounded by women who make it seem so effortless.

I have a thick skin by nature and tend to let things roll right off my back pretty easily, but I do keep getting the distinct impression that there are women, those who have never really struggled with breastfeeding, who think that it is simply an entirely black and white issue. That if you were “stranded on a desert island with only your baby and no formula or milk ” that your body would just miraculously start producing. That if for some reason something's not working for a mama they think it's just some subconscious decision you've made about not REALLY wanting to breastfeed, that it's a matter of your lack of commitment.

Every time I read or hear some flip comment about women who "claim" they aren't able to breastfeed exclusively it is impossible for some tiny part of me to not feel like less of a mother, less of woman, because I wasn't able to have mine and my son’s ideal breastfeeding relationship. No matter how many times you tell yourself you did the best you could and that some breast milk, every last drop, is far better than none, it still hurts. I actually read an email just last week where one woman made the statement that “I find that people will find any excuse to stop doing something that they’re not really all that committed to in the first place.” More than a year has passed since my supply dried up and STILL I felt my blood pressure shoot through the roof and my blood boil.

Furthermore, at times it’s as if like the few women who do seem realize that there are a few shades of grey in the breastfeeding spectrum are only really giving it lip service, without really believing what they are saying. I can’t count how many times I’ve seen something prefaced with “And YES, I know there are women who can’t breastfeed, who have low supply, blah, blah, blah. BUT….” (Yes, actually with “blah, blah, blah”)

I find this most troubling because, Lactivism forum aside, a breastfeeding forum is more than likely be frequented by a fair number of women who are struggling and are in search of support and information. To not acknowledge this audience in a respectful and gentle manner is just downright insensitive and, like it or not, hurtful. To imply that a woman who has been pumping around the clock, offering the breast every second she’s not pumping, drinking odd tasting tea and desperately groping her boobies in the hopes to stimulate milk production is being too sensitive when she takes a comment to heart is kind of ridiculous. OF COURSE she’s being too sensitive! It’s impossible not to be when you’re on the normal emotional and hormonal roller coaster that accompanies motherhood combined with the feelings of fear and guilt and shame that come with struggling with breastfeeding.

I suppose I really just wish all mamas everywhere could make sure they’re being supportive of each other. (And, of course, I’m not referring to letting your kids eat McDonald’s all day long or locking them in their rooms or anything like that.) All the passive aggressiveness and backbiting out there just makes me so sad. I truly believe when people, women especially, aren’t being kind to those around them, it’s because they aren’t being kind to themselves first. And that’s the saddest part of all.

Thanks for starting this thread and thanks to all the other mamas who have responded. I wish I had found this board 2.5 years ago.
post #29 of 46
Thank you for your post, Crazy Basil.

For those mamas who have been down this road and come out the other side, do the feelings of self-deprecation go away? Do you stop believing that you must have done something to cause this to happen? That if you'd done something, anything differently before or during pregnancy, that you'd be able to feed your babe? That's what I struggle with. That my DDs premature birth and my inability to produce enough milk to feed her is directly related to something I've done. I just can't come to terms with the fact that it's some sort of sick cosmic (or karmic?) joke. You get told from teenagedom that you're built to have children, and are perfectly suited to do so, and you believe it. Feels like a slap in the face when it turns out to not be true.

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post #30 of 46
I respect low-supply moms who breastfeed so much- it would be so easy to just give up and go to only formula at any point and it amazes me how dedicated to BF most low supply moms are. I've read a lot of your posts Marcy and I just have to say- you are awesome!
post #31 of 46
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Originally Posted by sehbub
Thank you for your post, Crazy Basil.

For those mamas who have been down this road and come out the other side, do the feelings of self-deprecation go away? Do you stop believing that you must have done something to cause this to happen? That if you'd done something, anything differently before or during pregnancy, that you'd be able to feed your babe? That's what I struggle with. That my DDs premature birth and my inability to produce enough milk to feed her is directly related to something I've done. I just can't come to terms with the fact that it's some sort of sick cosmic (or karmic?) joke. You get told from teenagedom that you're built to have children, and are perfectly suited to do so, and you believe it. Feels like a slap in the face when it turns out to not be true.

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sehbub, for me personally, it did get better. Slowly, but surely. Obviously from my first post I still have moments where I feel pangs of sorrow and grief for a relationship that wasn't what I had expected. That said, I'm not nearly the wreck I was before. As your baby grows and the almighty healer, Time, works its magic, you will begin to heal. You will see beyond it to your beautiful baby and know that what you are doing is special and worth the effort, hard as it can be.

For me, I just had to tell myself, over and over, "You are doing the best you can. You are giving it everything you have to give, doing everything you can. ANY amount of breastmilk is better than none. Even if it's just a drop."

I gave it my best effort. And then gave it some more. Like you, I had always KNOWN I would labor and deliver naturally, (which, a whole other thread, was not what was to be) I had always KNOWN I would breastfeed exclusively for an absolute minimum of a year with two years and beyond as my ideal goal. Care to know what I KNOW now...? Abso-freaking-lutely not a damn thing! (The most important thing I've learned so far as a mother is that the very moment you "KNOW" anything is immediately followed by the moment you realize you don't know $#*!.)

I'm not trying to make light of your or anyone's situation. Just wanted to let you know that you are not alone in feeling like it's unfair and a slap in the face.

There are a lot of women out there who do give up easy or don't try at all and the fact that you aren't one of them is worth so much. Know that you are not being punished for something. You are trying, you are making the effort, the monumental effort and that is to be commended. Be easy with yourself, please.
post #32 of 46
I used to feel the need, when meeting some new mother and children, to explain our history - yes, I have tried everything! I HATE buying formula to put in the Lact-Aid and have been known to force dh to make the purchase while...oh, hey what's that over there...as I wander off to look at something with the kids. I've put other purchases on top of it so I wouldn't have to look at it in the cart.

I wouldn't feed formula if I didn't have to. I've tried just about everything possible. But that supplement has kept my kids alive. My 3 1/2 year old knows that babies nurse and that he nursed. My 21 mo i still nursing with the LA.

I've struggled a lot with my feelings of failure due to low milk supply. I'm in a much better place now. That being said, my ILs still don't know. I don't have any problem NIP with or without the LA, but I am apt to leave the room with my ILs. It started out because we were hoping to solve the problem, I was already feeling horrible, and dh said I didn't need their crap adding to me (that is worded poorly - it should come off as being that dh is extremely supportive and was protecting me from an onslaught of abuse from the horrible ILs). Then I just didn't want to deal with their abuse when the problem couldn't be fixed by any mean tried. I have now nursed my 21 mo in front of them without the LA, but I won't be volunteering any information to them (and I'm sure some day a child will need nursed with the LA right then and we will have to explain - and dh will have to pull teh protective husband/father role....I'll deal with it then).

mandy
post #33 of 46


I still haven't figured out how to stop beating myself up over having low-supply. I have an almost 3yo that is still BF--you'd think that would make me feel like less of a failure, but no I still focus on the fact that I had to suppliment all three of my kids. I feel like an incomplete woman. I spend enough time judging myself, thankyouverymuch.

And if the judgement is real or just percieved it still stings. When my kids were young I frequently left parks and playgroups with a screaming hungry baby so we could bottle feed or use the SNS in the car so that I didn't have to deal with the comments/judgement.

I consider myself a lactivist but there are times that I just can not handle going into that forum. When I see threads prefaced with the comment "Yes, I know there are women out there that can't BF and this isn't about them, but....." it drives me batty. It seems like as long as a statement is prefaced with that it becomes accceptable to "bash" non-BF'ers regardless of their history.
post #34 of 46
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Originally Posted by mama-a-llama
This is a good point. I know one of the hardest things for me was the feeling that since I wasn't bfing I didn't matter. Anyone could take care of the baby and I could just disappear (yeah, I was a tad depressed. )
Oh my gosh, this brought back so many of the feelings I had when I had to start supplementing. I felt like there wasn't anything that differentiated me from any other person to ds. It was such a horrible feeling, and then when I looked for resources/information, I just kept getting the same message...it's something you're doing; nobody really doesn't produce enough milk; they just don't want to bf; try harder. : It so soured me, that I find it difficult to post in places like the lactivism forum.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazy Basil
Oh mamas... I've been ruminating on posting something similar to this thread for a while now. I've been seeing a lot of posts here and on another email list that just bring back all the feelings I thought I’d finally laid to rest. Feelings of inadequacy and guilt, questions of whether or not there was something else I could have, should have tried.

No, please make no mistake, I'm not advocating for the willfully ignorant or the lazy, whom I know is who the offending comments are truly aimed at. I just wish that more ladies realized that for every mama out there who just decided not to breastfeed because she didn't feel like it, there is another, sitting at home or in the bathroom at work or school, strapped to stupid, f@$%ing machine, trying to do what's best for her baby. There's a whole, small army out there of struggling women who are pounding tea and herbs, experimenting with pharmaceuticals and feeling betrayed by their own bodies. Until you've struggled with it, watched your baby lose weight and cry for hours from hunger and frustration, there is no way you can realize how lonely and difficult a road it can be. Particularly when surrounded by women who make it seem so effortless.

I have a thick skin by nature and tend to let things roll right off my back pretty easily, but I do keep getting the distinct impression that there are women, those who have never really struggled with breastfeeding, who think that it is simply an entirely black and white issue. That if you were “stranded on a desert island with only your baby and no formula or milk ” that your body would just miraculously start producing. That if for some reason something's not working for a mama they think it's just some subconscious decision you've made about not REALLY wanting to breastfeed, that it's a matter of your lack of commitment.

Every time I read or hear some flip comment about women who "claim" they aren't able to breastfeed exclusively it is impossible for some tiny part of me to not feel like less of a mother, less of woman, because I wasn't able to have mine and my son’s ideal breastfeeding relationship. No matter how many times you tell yourself you did the best you could and that some breast milk, every last drop, is far better than none, it still hurts. I actually read an email just last week where one woman made the statement that “I find that people will find any excuse to stop doing something that they’re not really all that committed to in the first place.” More than a year has passed since my supply dried up and STILL I felt my blood pressure shoot through the roof and my blood boil.

Furthermore, at times it’s as if like the few women who do seem realize that there are a few shades of grey in the breastfeeding spectrum are only really giving it lip service, without really believing what they are saying. I can’t count how many times I’ve seen something prefaced with “And YES, I know there are women who can’t breastfeed, who have low supply, blah, blah, blah. BUT….” (Yes, actually with “blah, blah, blah”)

I find this most troubling because, Lactivism forum aside, a breastfeeding forum is more than likely be frequented by a fair number of women who are struggling and are in search of support and information. To not acknowledge this audience in a respectful and gentle manner is just downright insensitive and, like it or not, hurtful. To imply that a woman who has been pumping around the clock, offering the breast every second she’s not pumping, drinking odd tasting tea and desperately groping her boobies in the hopes to stimulate milk production is being too sensitive when she takes a comment to heart is kind of ridiculous. OF COURSE she’s being too sensitive! It’s impossible not to be when you’re on the normal emotional and hormonal roller coaster that accompanies motherhood combined with the feelings of fear and guilt and shame that come with struggling with breastfeeding.

I suppose I really just wish all mamas everywhere could make sure they’re being supportive of each other. (And, of course, I’m not referring to letting your kids eat McDonald’s all day long or locking them in their rooms or anything like that.) All the passive aggressiveness and backbiting out there just makes me so sad. I truly believe when people, women especially, aren’t being kind to those around them, it’s because they aren’t being kind to themselves first. And that’s the saddest part of all.
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post #35 of 46
Thread Starter 
Oh mamas!!! I'm so glad we're in this together!
post #36 of 46
Sorry to hear about it, Marcy.
I think I am one of the low-supply mommas, too. I tried to exclusively-breastfeed my baby.. but in the very first month, my mom urged me to give formula to my baby. The reason was that he cried so often; maybe he was hungry; and my milk wasn't enough for him. I was soooo sad... I really was. Even until now.

Long story, but I finally gave him formula. When I got back to work, I pumped to twice a day and it wasn't much. You know what? I only got 120 ml totally!! (.
Sometimes, I thank the formula for this, but there have been other times too when I feel so upset about myself, cause I'd done what LC had told me. Pumping, massaging, supplement, anything. The milk still doesn't come out much .

But I don't give up breastfeeding. I still nurse my little boy until now (he's 14 mos) and he really enjoys it when nursing times come , which is in the evening and almost throughout the night .

Well, Marcy, I hope you're feeling better now. Hope sharing it in MDC helps you a lot .

Love,
- aurora -
post #37 of 46
while i agree that there are people who judge others who are bottle feeding because they assume that these moms were uninformed, misinformed, or choosing for 'wrong' reasons, i think that this is not as common as one might *feel* that it is.

when one struggles to achieve what they think is best, but for whatever reason cannot achieve it, they often feel very sad and disappointed. Part of this disappointment is disappointment in themselves--a self judgement.

I have found that when in the process of self-judgement, many people feel quite conspicuous, as if every person is judging them or most people are judging them.

i had this experience recently. I was at a place where i normally dine, and a woman came in with her baby. she was holding the baby and bottle feeding and i was watching. I love to watch babies and i love to watch babies eating because it's such a beautiful, nourishing thing to see.

Then, the mother snapped at me "why are you judging me for using a bottle? it's EBM!!!! my nipples hurt too much to make BFing possible!"

truth is, i wasn't thinking about what ws in the bottle or the fact that she was using a bottle. I think BF is awesome--even more awesome to watch than bottle feeding, but i wans't judging her! I realized that her own fears, self judgement, and experience came out. I also realized that i probably have a relatively intense stare. lol my bad!

So, i apoligized to her. I told her i was sorry if my staring made her uncomfortable. I explained that i loved to watch mothers feed their babies and that i wasn't thinking about whether or not it was breast or bottle or what ws in the bottle. I told her i thought that the baby was beautiful and it was really lovely to see. I also told her that i'm looking forward to TTC in 2008, and it's getting harder and harder to wait as i see so many pregnant women who look so beautiful and women out with their babies being so loving and happy and feeding them and such.

She apologized for snapping at me. We talked about the self-judgement thing. I told her not to be so hard on herself. I firmly believe that every mom strives to do what she thinks is best and appropriate for her child, and so i simply assume that if the baby is bottle fed, s/he needed it. if the baby is formula fed, s/he needed it. If i'm in a conversation, then i listen and i might inform, educate, whatever. But just seeing someone--no judgement.

the other side of this is what is on messageboards. i find it frustrating that our social and political culture are so 'anti' breast feeding. i find it frustrating that moms don't have the emotional support needed to either A. develop strong breast feeding relationships or B. when they struggle with or have to loose that relationship they dno't have the cultural support for that either--because that is part of breast feeding (the struggle or the potential for loss!). i find it frustrating that so many people are misinformed about breastfeeding and formula feeding because of the profit-making propoganda of formula companies; i find it frustrating that the government not only allows this misinformation, but supports through social welfare system, rather than putting those tax dollars into paying lactation consultants and extending maternity leave and providing breast pumps and opportunities to pump at work.

generally speaking, our culture is not pro BF. our culture, and therefore the women in it, do not know a lot about BF--it's struggles, the mourning of the loss of the BF relationship, or the success and beauty of it. our culture, and therefore the women in it, are tricked by propoganda from the companies and the government about BF vs FF. All of this frustrates me!

So when i write about "argh! i hate it when i see a woman simply FF a baby when she could BF!" it's a broad generalization and not a personal attack. It's a broad generalization based on the fact that our culture supports FF over BF, that women are misinformed or uninformed in general, and that our political climate doesn't make BF relationships any easier for working or impoverished moms.

It is based in fact. It's certainly not absolute--there are TONS of exceptions, but not the majority. It's not personal against any mom on here or in real life actually--unless i'm talking about a specific woman. but recently, i've had a lot of experiences where people (moms no less) have said things that just make me crazy like "BFing is disgusting!" and "i could never do it!" and "formula is just as good and so much more convenient!" These women DO fit the generalization--and i get frustrated with them and with the culture that taught them this. But, i don't attack or judge them. I simply say to myself "wow, they're so misinformed; it's really sad. how can i change this situation for them, for all women?"

i may come on here (or somewhere else) and rant about this ignorance and my frustration with it. But it's nothing personal against any mother who FFs or uses a bottle. it's simply "GAH! i'm so frustrated!" KWIM?

So to this, mourn your struggle, and your loss if you lose the BF relationship. IT's ok to struggle and to loose these things--you certainly didn't do so willingly and G-d-(ess) bless you for trying so hard and still being honest with your own frustration. In this mourning, you'll discover that people aren't judging you when making generalizations. you'll discover that you needn't judge yourself so harshly either--you did everything that you can or could, and you have behaved conscientiously and with great love for your child.

And, there's certainly room for ya in the BF circles. You're one of those who is "mourning the struggle to BF" and putting voice to the reality of this experience. You're part of the cultural solution, part of the social change necessary to make BF--with all of it's struggles--part of 'the norm' so that in the future, fewer women will have to struggle. and when they do, they'll find more support for having given their all to their children--even if that didn't come in the form of BM.
post #38 of 46
I just want to let you know that after reading this thread, I will never judge a bottle-feeding mom again. I breast-fed and went through a lot to do it and while I've experienced some judgement myself for breast-feeding in public, I have taken for granted how hard it must be to be judged for not breastfeeding especially if you really want to and can't. I have looked at women with disdain for pulling out bottles...I'm soooo sorry for ever judging.

Sorry for hijacking here but I want you to know that you've taught me something. Yes, we should all be in this together.

Peace.
post #39 of 46


This thread made me cry. OK to start off, my oldest is 11 and I still have those feelings of failure. After he went on formula because he was still losing and starting to get dehydrated I felt like "he doesn't need me now." I saw a mom nurse her baby back in Nov and I was so JEALOUS I could not stand it. Why her and not me?

So 11 years I have felt this way. I have TRIED to get counseling but let me tell you finding someone who can understand how I feel has proved impossible. I felt like if I heard it was silly for me to feel like this one more time I would lose it. YES it is silly for me to feel this way, I know that. That was why I figured I needed help to get past it.

After DD#2 was born I had severe ppd. I still say the catalyst was being unable to breastfeed. I opted to FF from the start with her. I had the same experince that a pp did, that people thought that just because I was ffing that I did not need to be the one to feed her. That upset me even more. I wanted for at least the first 6 weeks for her to be feed by only DH and I. The hosptial knew that and they gave her the first bottle. I was so upset by that. With all those feelings I got to where everytime I gave my DD a bottle I would cry and cry. I also would avoid dealing with her. I felt that she would be better off without me. I was a failure as a mother in my eyes because I could not provide her with breastmilk, something that everyone told me was the first natural step in mothering.

I am trying yet again. DH wants to know why I insist on toturing myself. Don't get me wrong he is being supportive. He said he wanted a few minutes to state how he felt, and that after that he would do everything I needed. He did insist that I have some method to supplement. (So he got me the SNS.) He encouraged me to go to the LLL meeting even though it was on his birthday. He even checked out the "Womanly art of breaastfeeding" for me from the University where he attends and works. (Our libary has it but they are remodling and everytime I go to find a book I can't find it. He was the only one that could check it out at the university.)

We do get judged. Another thread someone said that women that claim they had not enough milk, are spreading myths. Now maybe they meant the ones that really could have nursed but fell into the "not enough milk" fears, or us as well was very unclear. I have been told before, that my problem was that I did not have support (I did), that I did not try hard enough (I did) or that my problem was a imagined problem not a real problem. I did not imagine my son losing weight for 4 weeks and getting dehydrated. I did not imagine my daughter never regaining her birth weight. The only suggestion made I did not try was for an SNS (because by the time the LC suggested it I was at the point I had to supplment and I could not get one right away.)

I also tend to use what I have learned to help friends that are worried about low supply. That has some thearputic value for me. The weirdest situation was teaching my SIL how to NIP without giving my whole neighboorhood a free peep show. She had little clue how to get her DS to latch on with out taking off her shirt, bra etc...

Poor girl, I thought no wonder she felt chained to the house. She still only made it 6 weeks but that was better then with her first son only making it 2 weeks. I was so jealous when she quit. She had plenty of milk but said it was to hard to nurse with a three year old and for good measure threw in "You wouldn't understand you couldn't do it." UGH! HELLO, I was trying to nurse DD, with a three year old at home. Not only was I nursing every 2 hours round the clock but pumping for 45 mins after each feeding to try to boost supply. I would have kept doing it that way had it worked, but I was chained to the house because I was chained to the Breast pump. I felt like no sooner did I nurse and pump I had a few minutes to feed ds or anything else he needed get a drink, go the bathroom and start all over again.
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I love this thread.

I can barely read some of the breastfeeding threads here without getting that prickly anxiety feeling. (and I really have it now as I was JUST WALKED IN ON while pumping in my office by a strange man I have never seen before!!!!)

Anyway, I am trying my best, but can only pump a third of what DD needs during the day when I am at work. When I buy formula, I try to hide it in the cart. When I wrestle her at my breast, I feel like a failure. And when I read about people upset about "only" being able to pump 20 ounces a day I get so mad I could spit, as I desperately try to squeeze out five over the course of three thirty minute sessions with the pump.

I judge myself and feel judged by others. My personal and familial culture is so PRO-breastfeeding that I beat myself up everytime I give DD a bottle. I am glad I am not alone.