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post #61 of 171
I think the OP did something wrong, actually. But without being there, I'm inclined to think the woman who took him out was also out of line. Yes, you have to err on the safe side with kids, but people also err on the side of assuming the worst of parents. When I saw the windows were open, I would have checked on the kid, tried to even determine how hot it might be in the car, and stood around for at least a few minutes, or shouted out to people standing nearby. Taking a kid out of a car is a *big* deal, even if you think you are being a good samaritan. I guess for me it depends on how long she was truly standing there, how hot is was, how much the windows were open. And no one knows but the op. Because giving people free reign to "rescue" kids whenever they deem necessary would be a little frightening, hotcar danger aside.
post #62 of 171
A very scarey situation for you and the mom who thought your baby was unattended. Im glad all ended well. My friends brother died while unattended as an infant. Mom left him in the car and when she came back he was dead. The other little boy lived. Mom did 5 years in jail.
post #63 of 171
How scary. Such a scary story.

Im so paranoid that I always get full service gas where they put it in for you, I won't even leave my kids in the car to walk to the pay window (not a store, just a little booth outside, maybe 10 feet away)

You just can never trust people.

I don't think I would have taken the baby out of the car with the window open, but I surely would have stood beside the car until an adult came back.

There are just so many storys of kids dying in hot cars that it makes people really notice it which is a wonderful thing that they do because they just might actually help a child one day.

But, sorry you had to go through that.
post #64 of 171
well, having grown up in the deep south where it is literally 110 degrees in the SHADE, I know that the inside of cars is deadly to children on a regular basis.

I can't say I've NEVER left my kids in the car...In the dead of winter with snow, sleet and such, I have been known to grab a nice lady in the mail it shop and station her near my car , and lock my kids in with my remote. I just couldnt drag them out in the driving snow.

but....I would have noticed that someone was in my car, taking my kid out, unstrapping them, etc.

I hope everyone takes this as a reminder to never leave your kids in a hot car ever


if i saw a baby alone in a hot car, YES, i would have checked onthe baby, and started actively looking for someone nearby. If i couldnt find anyone, you'd darn better believe I would take that baby out and call 911. If the momma bothers to show up , and freaks out, then so be it, but i'm still gonna ask where she was, and why didnt she take her baby with her?
post #65 of 171
OP, thanks for having the courage to post about this. Your story could save some family a lot of heartache.
post #66 of 171
ZanZansMommy- I'm glad your baby is safe and in your arms again. I'm sure this was really hard to post and you learned a scary lesson. Thanks for the reminder.
post #67 of 171
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Originally Posted by sweetangelbrynlie
How scary. Such a scary story.

Im so paranoid that I always get full service gas where they put it in for you, I won't even leave my kids in the car to walk to the pay window (not a store, just a little booth outside, maybe 10 feet away)
I don't even know where to find one of those. I haven't seen one in quite a while. There could still be a few around here, but I don't know where.

I use prepay - debit or credit card at the pump.
post #68 of 171
I find it interesting that not a single person mentioned the dad! The OP was obviously busy. She was caring for the other child, and on the phone at the same time. What was her DH doing?

ZanZansMommy, I hope you had a nice talking to with your hubby. You shouldn't have had to tell him to watch the baby while you were busy with the other child. He should've already been keeping an eye out. You did nothing wrong. You weren't the unobservant one. IMO, it was your husband's duty to watch the baby at that particular moment in time, and he failed you and the baby. I'd be more upset with him than the woman who took the baby out of the vehicle. Speak with him about coordinating childcare while out and about. If your attention if focused on one child, he should automatically keep an eye out on the other child.
post #69 of 171
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Originally Posted by bamamom
if i saw a baby alone in a hot car, YES, i would have checked onthe baby, and started actively looking for someone nearby. If i couldnt find anyone, you'd darn better believe I would take that baby out and call 911. If the momma bothers to show up , and freaks out, then so be it, but i'm still gonna ask where she was, and why didnt she take her baby with her?
Yes, but the "momma bothers to show up" scenario isn't the case with this good mama (the OP), obviously, she was right there, and was totally freaked out when she was informed a stranger had her baby. So, I don't understand, it wasn't too hot when she was IN the car with him, so why was it suddenly too hot when she was 6 feet away? Also, people freak out about the idea of a stranger kidnapping their child, but it's SO RARE that in fact your child is 200 times more likely to die of a sudden heart attack (but mamas don't go around worrying about that). Give the OP a break, she was doing just fine parenting...IMO, a much greater danger to humanity lies in over-protection, relentless judgment of mothers, and busy-bodies interfering in other people's lives! That woman who took the baby from the car and then yelled at the poor distraught mama should be ashamed of herself! And OP, I am so sorry this happened to you, and glad that your baby is safe in your arms!!
post #70 of 171
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Originally Posted by Storm Bride
I don't even know where to find one of those. I haven't seen one in quite a while. There could still be a few around here, but I don't know where.

I use prepay - debit or credit card at the pump.
There are all over here, I live in a small town though where most pumps don't even have credit card acceptance and the pump.
post #71 of 171
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Originally Posted by mommaof3
So, I don't understand, it wasn't too hot when she was IN the car with him, so why was it suddenly too hot when she was 6 feet away?
It's not the distance- it's the time. I'm not saying the baby was too heated, but to the woman who took the baby she had NO idea how long the baby was actually in the car. I assume she didn't watch the family drive up, watch the mama get out of the car, and then go take the baby. The way it sounds she was probably walking by, saw the baby in the car, and took him out. A baby or small child can overheat in minutes. Although the mama said it was "warm but not uncomfortable" to her, doesn't mean it didn't feel that way to a small child (whose body obviously heats up faster than an adults).

From the sounds of the OP the baby had to have been alone in the car for at least 3 minutes. She walked 6 feet from the car to the eating area, turned to check on the car, helped her dd take a bite, checked the car, help dd take a bite, check the car, her DH said something to her, she sat down, took a bite of her lunch, helped dd take a bite, answered her phone, and then noticed a security guard by her car. The OP says this happened in 2 minutes and 51 seconds.

In the same 2 minutes and 51 seconds some stranger managed to get her baby out of the car, into the store, find a security guard, and the security guard got to the OP's car. I'm sorry, but logic says either there was more time involved than 2 minutes and 51 seconds, the OP didn't check the car every 30 seconds or so when she first got there, or something else.

I feel for this mama, I really do. And it takes a lot of guts to post what happened on here. I hope we can all learn from it.
post #72 of 171
Tried to read the whole thread...but I am just feel :

Anyways, I just wanted to add that there have been a lot of news around here lately about people forgetting their children in their cars. Dads forgetting to bring them to daycare or what not and they are in the car all day. This woman who took the baby out had no way of knowing the amount of time the baby was in the car. She might have been thinking that someone "forgot" the child. If it was truly a parent that forgot for whatever reason, I think it is great that the woman took the child out of the car. It could have saved the child's life.

Again, I know this is not this specific situation, but the woman really had no way of knowing and could have jumped to conclusions and really was trying to save this child.

To the OP, sorry you had to deal with this scary situation. Thank you for sharing your story. Hugs...
post #73 of 171
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Originally Posted by StephandOwen
I'm not saying the baby was too heated

A baby or small child can overheat in minutes. Although the mama said it was "warm but not uncomfortable" to her, doesn't mean it didn't feel that way to a small child (whose body obviously heats up faster than an adults).

Are you saying the baby was too heated, or not?

And, if you had looked into a car and saw a baby sleeping in a car seat, with a mama right next to him, would you have still worried about the baby over-heating?
It seems like folks are looking to blame the OP for SOMETHING, anything, and that's too bad. We mamas need to give each other support and love, and save the criticism and blame for people who actually abuse their children.
post #74 of 171
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Originally Posted by mommaof3
Are you saying the baby was too heated, or not?
I wasn't there. How would I know? All I know is that it only takes a few minutes for a baby to overheat. In 80 degree humid weather it wouldn't take all that long for a child to overheat in a car (especially if the window right next to him is closed- even if there was a slight breeze coming through the other windows I don't see how the breeze would have hit him, seeing that the window next to him was closed. It's the same thing in my car- the drivers window doesn't open. All other ones do. My ds is generally cool in the backseat while I'm driving because he has a breeze on him- I'm still hotter than heck because I don't get a breeze).

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Originally Posted by mommaof3
And, if you had looked into a car and saw a baby sleeping in a car seat, with a mama right next to him, would you have still worried about the baby over-heating?
I probably would have, but I certaintly wouldn't have taken a child out of a car with his parent sitting right next to him. I would hope that parent had some sense and could tell if it got too hot in the car for the babe. Something you can't do from 6 feet away.

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Originally Posted by mommaof3
It seems like folks are looking to blame the OP for SOMETHING, anything, and that's too bad. We mamas need to give each other support and love, and save the criticism and blame for people who actually abuse their children.
I don't see it that way. I see this as a learning tool- a lesson for other moms (and dads) that things can change in an instant. And also to listen to your instinct. This mama said "I hesitated slightly b/c DS was in the car but I convinced myself "ahh what's the big deal. I'm going to be right here"." If she had listened to that little voice then it wouldn't have happened.
post #75 of 171
*HUGS* to the OP. How scary for you....thank goodness your baby was in the arms of a well-intentioned person.

Here in TX, we don't play around with kids in cars...so I probably would have done the same thing (minus the yelling and berating, LOL). I have no room to talk, as I've made many parenting mistakes. Live and learn
post #76 of 171

Thanks for sharing this story with us

I think it was really brave of the orginial poster to post this to help remind us other moms how quickly a decision can change our lives.
I agree with what the lady did because she had no clue how long babe had been sitting there, and it is better to be safe than sorry. But at the same time I can see how traumatic and scary that was for this mama to have gone through such an experience. It took a lot of guts for her to post about it here and I hope she knows that she has everyone's support. People make mistakes we are all human and she is sharing a mistake to help spare someone else having to go through it. So mama, don't be too hard on yourself, you have learned the lesson and your sweet baby is fine.

And remember to share your story with everyone you know!
Erica
post #77 of 171

Thanks for sharing this story with us

I think it was really brave of the orginial poster to post this to help remind us other moms how quickly a decision can change our lives.
I agree with what the lady did because she had no clue how long babe had been sitting there, and it is better to be safe than sorry. But at the same time I can see how traumatic and scary that was for this mama to have gone through such an experience. It took a lot of guts for her to post about it here and I hope she knows that she has everyone's support. People make mistakes we are all human and she is sharing a mistake to help spare someone else having to go through it. So mama, don't be too hard on yourself, you have learned the lesson and your sweet baby is fine.

And remember to share your story with everyone you know!
Erica
post #78 of 171
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Originally Posted by mommaof3
It seems like folks are looking to blame the OP for SOMETHING, anything, and that's too bad.
I don't think anyone's trying to "blame" the OP. But the fact of the matter is she was supposedly close to the car, but didn't notice what could have potentially been the kidnapping of her child. So, she was obviously not close enough. Moral of the story--never turn your back on your child. It only takes a few seconds for them to disappear--you may be 6 feet away, but if you can not see and hear someone entering your vehicle in a non-sneaky way, removing your child from a carseat, closing the car door, and walking away with your child, then you are not in a position to appropriately keep your child safe. Heat or no heat, the OP did not take appropriate measures to ensure the child's safety--next time someone could enter the car, remove the child from the carseat, walk away with that child and this time instead of entering a store, the child could be put in another car and taken away by a dishonest individual. She should be on her knees thanking God that tonight, her child is in her arms and not a statistic on the evening news.
post #79 of 171
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She should be on her knees thanking God that tonight, her child is in her arms and not a statistic on the evening news.
She probably is. I think all of our children have had some scary close calls. I always admire when someone can be honest enough to say they've made a mistake. Mothers can be really good at pretending like they've never made a mistake, especially in the company of other mothers.
post #80 of 171
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Originally Posted by AllyRae
Moral of the story--never turn your back on your child. It only takes a few seconds for them to disappear--you may be 6 feet away, but if you can not see and hear someone entering your vehicle in a non-sneaky way, removing your child from a carseat, closing the car door, and walking away with your child, then you are not in a position to appropriately keep your child safe. Heat or no heat, the OP did not take appropriate measures to ensure the child's safety--next time someone could enter the car, remove the child from the carseat, walk away with that child and this time instead of entering a store, the child could be put in another car and taken away by a dishonest individual. She should be on her knees thanking God that tonight, her child is in her arms and not a statistic on the evening news.
Well said, mama.
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