The Secret---- anyone seen it? - Page 139

[Queen of Cups]

I manifested something again today!

We're putting our house on the market in a couple weeks so we're doing major decluttering and packing to get it looking great. We ran out of boxes a couple days ago, and so today I decided on manifesting some more. I drove by the liquor store we always get boxes at - no go. Then I went to the grocery store, and they didn't have any but said they'd save a bunch for me tomorrow. That was closer, but I was manifesting finding boxes TODAY! So, I decided to drive back by the liquor store to see if they'd set any out. I was getting a little iffy, but just kept telling myself I was about to prove myself capable of manifesting... And, as I was about to pull in front of the liquor store again, I decided to drive around back (its in a strip mall) - and there were literally hundreds of collasped boxes back there! So, I picked up what I needed for today and headed home happily. I've been picking up boxes several times a week since January, and had never discovered the area behind the stripmall before, I'm so glad I was drawn to it today!

[ananas]

Cool, Queen of Cups!

[Azadeh]

oops! Um... I dig this thread.

[KoalaMama]

Originally Posted by Azadeh

OK, the debate is being won by the skeptics... LOL Maybe I should just give up!

Give up if you want. Or not. There was a time I might have exerted energy on helping these women see my point of view, but these aren't people interested in learning; these are people interested in tearing down. Which is ok, too! So debate if it brings you joy, and walk away if it doesn't. I really don't feel there's any winning or losing in this one. And that makes me feel GREAT!

Love to you, Azadeh, for caring!

[fullofgrace]

Crossposted:

Dons Mod Hat

We're really not supposed to be referring to or directing each other to other threads (especially to debate) per the UA (#8). So if we could edit posts that do and keep discussions and posts on this thread to positive thinking topics on this thread, it would be greatly appreciated (and more 'Secretive' anyway )

[Amris]

Personally, here's my take on arguing about The Secret.

When someone wants to throw the worst possible light onto something, there's always someone available to use to do so. No matter what system of belief you point out, there are kooks. There are even kooky scientists. Kooky Christians. Kooky Sci Fi fans. Kooky chefs.

When someone says, "Yeah, but I once knew a Vegan, and she was a kook, so they're all kooks, and that's obviously a kooky way to eat," what do you do? How do you argue with this person?

Their argument is certainly impassioned. But it's hardly realistic. It comes from a place of prejudice. I have yet to see any arguments about the basic premises of The Secret that actually came from someone TRYING to understand it, rather than from a place of them having not even tried, and just deciding to discredit it.

When someone asks me, "Can you explain this part that I don't understand?" I will engage in the conversation. I will do my best to impart my understanding.

Most of these threads, though....their sole purpose is to bash the belief. It's really that simple. No matter what you bring up to them, they'll bring up some impassioned and emotional dispute that sidetracks from their actual question. They'll accuse all LOA'ers of being 'like that one kook I know', or various and sundry other emotional but irrelevant statements.

Then, when you can't give them a rationale for their irrational outburst, they get all high and mighty and "i told you so," when in fact, the only "failure" was to meet an illogical statement with another impassioned but equally illogical statement.

Well, gosh, I don't know why your friend become a kook after she listened to The Secret. Maybe she's just a kook? "OMG, you SEE!? LOA'ers are KOOKS, you admitted it!"

Ya know... never mind. Enjoy your life, and your day.



(Here's hoping my post is generic enough?)

[Momtwice]

You're good Amris. And so are we.

[Azadeh]

First, I did not know about that rule. I'm sorry. Thanks for being understanding with me.

And I really like what KoalaMama said. I'm new to this... I keep forgetting there is no point in debating. I think I even mention that regularly and still forget to stop! LOL

Amris what you described is pretty much what happens to me. I'm new to this. I'm just learning how the world works and how people react to different ideas, etc.. It's true that it sometimes feels good to speak your mind...

I LOVE this new discovery (new to me anyway) and as difficult as it is to change my old mentality (which has been hammered in my head since childhood) I will not give up. I am getting more confident each day.

You don't know how much I appreciate all the good, positive energy that is being sent out by people in this thread. I feel it. It makes a big difference. Thank You!

[KoalaMama]

I'm new to this... I keep forgetting there is no point in debating. I think I even mention that regularly and still forget to stop! LOL

Let me tell you, I need constant reminders on this one myself. But it is one of the most amazing of the recent developments for me... the ability to not give a hoot or get sucked in! Totally rocks! And of course changes from moment to moment, as we're all still new and learning. That is, after all, what we're here for!

you all!

[Momtwice]

Azedeh, Amris said it very well. You CAN ask questions, ask for help, ask for clarification, respectfully disagree here, if your intention is to be respectful. It's a little hard to explain...it is a support only thread and hardcore debate belongs elsewhere...but we don't all think exactly alike, KWIM?

[Azadeh]

Well, there is no need to debate here! You all think the same way I do.

Anyway, I think I'm going to stay away from debates from now on. Usually the only reason I've gotten into them in the past (only once at MDC) has been because there has been nobody to talk to about these things, who thinks like I do. And you gotta talk about your interests sometime right? I'm so attracted to the subject. When I see something related, I tend to want to jump in even if they are skeptics. LOL And so it turns into a debate.

Now when I feel like talking about law of attraction and importance of positive thinking, I'll just come over here.

[Tracy]

fwiw...
I have read a lot of these Secret Bashing articles.. they have either been emailed to me or forwarded to me in some way ..guess spirit just wants me to see them..
anyway, I do think it is funny that I have not seen anyone like for example, Bill Gates or perhaps Calvin Klein or perhaps some inventor of something important .. I don't know.. a heart machine.. or something of note...I have not heard them beat up The Secret. it seems l ike people with a vision and who have manifested something big with their vision.. have not beaten it up.

years ago I remember there was an episode of St.
Elsewhere.. the old tv show.. and on this episode one of the doctors played
by Howie Mandel dies.. And when he dies he goes to purgatory.. not hell but
purgatory.. and in this purgatory was a field with nothing but umpires. umpires everywhere, yelling "safe", "out" "ball" etc..... and later we understood that purgatory was where people
didn't jump in and play the game.. they just stay on the outside and called
it out... not players, no people running into home, or stealing 2nd.. just
calling the plays.. and that was purgatory.
I can't help but think that these articles are all written by umpires in
purgatory.

[fek&fuzz]

Originally Posted by Tracy

fwiw...
I have read a lot of these Secret Bashing articles.. they have either been emailed to me or forwarded to me in some way ..guess spirit just wants me to see them..
anyway, I do think it is funny that I have not seen anyone like for example, Bill Gates or perhaps Calvin Klein or perhaps some inventor of something important .. I don't know.. a heart machine.. or something of note...I have not heard them beat up The Secret. it seems l ike people with a vision and who have manifested something big with their vision.. have not beaten it up.

years ago I remember there was an episode of St.
Elsewhere.. the old tv show.. and on this episode one of the doctors played
by Howie Mandel dies.. And when he dies he goes to purgatory.. not hell but
purgatory.. and in this purgatory was a field with nothing but umpires. umpires everywhere, yelling "safe", "out" "ball" etc..... and later we understood that purgatory was where people didn't jump in and play the game.. they just stay on the outside and called
it out... not players, no people running into home, or stealing 2nd.. just
calling the plays.. and that was purgatory.
I can't help but think that these articles are all written by umpires in
purgatory.

I like that take on it, Tracy.

[Zannalyn]

I like that, too, Tracy. I have no use for that sneering, name-calling kind of criticism. I would, however, really like a calm, reasoned discussion about questions about LoA, etc. Every time I see posts that seem to be doing that, and I think about what I want to reply, it gets taken off or locked or whatever. So I have this stuff in my head and nowhere to put it. e.g. I really wanted to respond to the woman who lost her baby, because I lost one, too, and there's a piece of that story I wanted to tell her... but I think a pm would seem intrusive...

whatever. I know what I believe, what is making sense to me, and the Secret and these threads have really really helped with that, and I am delighted with how much I am learning and growing.

Time for

[Tracy]

itch. scratched.

[stirringleaf]

Back On Track!

I have kind of fallen off my personal trail lately. i am beginning a new relationship and i think i got focused on it a bit...not in a bad way, just didnt fully focus on manifesting things. theni got really sick with a throat bug that wiped me out for over a week and that made me crash and feel really depressed.

so today the weather is beautiful here for the first time in months, so that helped perk me up. however, after my class i missed my bus up to my house and my son's school. the busses only run once an hour here, so i barely had enough time to walk, i would definatly not make it to his school on time if i waitd for the next bus. i was carrying a huge backpack with like ten million books in it cuz today is my long day at school and i would have to walk almost 4 miles up a mountain road carrying it! even on a nice day, that sounded terrible, cuz i had eaten no lunch, either.

so i decided to manifest a ride. knowing that i would get this ride, i stopped in a grocery store near the road up to my neighborhood and got myself a bagel and some gatorade, just in case i really had to walk. but i kept telling myself that going to the grocery store would actually bring me my ride, and that i was going there mainly to find my ride.

this is a smallish town and there would be a small chance i would run in to someone i knew in the store. but..anything is possible. and, i fugured if anything maybe i could call a taxi and wait there . but being this is a small city, taxis are not really the *thing* here..no one really uses them......i could have had to wait an hour for one...who knows. and you rarely ever see them so its not likely to happen upon one on
a road.

but these were my thoughs as i allowed myself to meet my hunger needs. i knew that if i took care of myself and trusted the universe i would get to ds 's school on time. i had about 45 minutes.

i unhurredly, unstressed, went through the checkout line, paid, and just as i stepped outside, a taxi pulled up in the one empty p[arking spot right iin front of where i was standing !!!!!! so i asked him if i could get a ride. he asked if i was the one who called . insede i said " well technically, yes!!"

but outwardly i knew he was unaware of my order with the universe so i said no. his customer was nowhere to be seen, so he went into the store to find her, etc, and learned that she was going right to the same neighborhood as me and he invited me to hop in!

i tipped him kind of big in the end, because it was just such a delightful experience i wanted to pay it forward, even though i cant afford a taxi in the first place!!!!!!!!!!! it was great! plus some of the kids at the school got to see a *real * taxi which is rare here, and a mom told me i was " very metropolitan" as a joke, LOL it was great!

honestly a taxi was what i pictured the most vividly, like i couldnt really picture who would give me a ride, but had a strong mental image when i thought about the taxi idea. so i really think that i placed an order for a taxi and it pulled up just in time!

ok just one more thing, the other woman was talking about a health problem she had and about how positive thinking, natural remidies, and faith were helping her. i wanted to tell her about the Secret, but i was in the back seat and the opportunity just wasnt really there for me to interject. but it was just another layer of coolness to the whole thing.

[WuWei]

Stirringleaf, what a practical solution you manifested!! Amazing!

Congratulations.

Pat

[Hazelnut]

okay I"m sorry I'm not keeping up with this thread (I'm not even sure how many threads are on this now) but is anyone else floored by how much Oprah put this on the mainstream map? I guess I shouldnt' be. Suddenly it is everywhere! Something about it becoming faddish annoys me slightly, but anyway. I didn't realize there was now a book out as well. I've been meaning to get to the library to get Esther Hicks book, but now I want to read the Secret in book form. Has anyone read this yet? Do you think it's worth buying after watching the dvd? I read that she wrote it very quickly, so I'm just wondering....
tia.

[stirringleaf]

i cant believe how long my post was. i almost feel like i should apologise or something but then i just think that the whole story is what makes it so cool how that taxi showed up. anyways now i need to manifest that i dont have a case of recurrent strep.

[Momtwice]

Originally Posted by Hazelnut

okay I"m sorry I'm not keeping up with this thread (I'm not even sure how many threads are on this now) but is anyone else floored by how much Oprah put this on the mainstream map? I guess I shouldnt' be. Suddenly it is everywhere! Something about it becoming faddish annoys me slightly, but anyway. I didn't realize there was now a book out as well. I've been meaning to get to the library to get Esther Hicks book, but now I want to read the Secret in book form. Has anyone read this yet? Do you think it's worth buying after watching the dvd? I read that she wrote it very quickly, so I'm just wondering....
tia.

If I had to get one to me Ask and it is Given (Hicks) is so incredibly helpful. The second half has many helpful processes. (The first half is more "out there" about channeling "Abraham." That may or may not speak to you. The second half is very practical and helpful and FUN.) I have a thread discussing Ask and it is Given if you search with my username.

The Secret book is awesome too, and the book on CD is like the Secret expanded....more than four hours of material, over twice as much as the movie of the Secret.