The Secret---- anyone seen it? - Page 145

[KoalaMama]

AmyMN... Are you aware of the weekly threads? We're always at the top of the listing, so you can't miss it.

[AmyMN]

Originally Posted by KoalaMama

AmyMN... Are you aware of the weekly threads? We're always at the top of the listing, so you can't miss it.

Doh! I don't usually get to threads that way (except for my tribe). Thx!

[AmyMN]

Originally Posted by bu's mama

I do NOT want this.

How do I get this to change?

What DO you want? Say that, write that. "I'm so happy and grateful now that...(what I want)"

(Is this the "weekly" thread I heard about?)

[Amris]

Originally Posted by AmyMN

What DO you want? Say that, write that. "I'm so happy and grateful now that...(what I want)"

(Is this the "weekly" thread I heard about?)

Weekly thread is here: http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=646221

Come join us!

[Tracy]

bump

[AmyMN]

Originally Posted by Amris

Weekly thread is here: http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=646221

Come join us!

Thanks! I accidently posted on the wrong thread (above). LOL.

[WuWei]

Originally Posted by AmyMN

Thanks! I accidently posted on the wrong thread (above). LOL.

Amy, we aren't avoiding you, but the weekly thread will change again tomorrow!


Pat

[jayayenay]

I can't keep track of all of the Secret threads, but I cross-posted this in PG, in case there's anyone still out there who hasn't seen the movie yet:

I just wanted to share that there's a transcript of the original version of the movie at http://www.nannytomom.com/transcript...e-secret-1.php!!

[Momtwice]

Thank you jayayenay!

[Tracy]

Just a little boost.

[milk4two]

Our family watched the DVD a few nights ago. I so enjoyed it, even after reading the book.

[haleyelianasmom]

I just saw it today (took it out from the library). Am I the only one to be slightly bothered by their examples of wants? Necklace, car, bike, big house, lots of money... It all seemed pretty selfish to me. I'm not against wanting things, but expensive luxuries wouldn't be my first pick. How about an end to world hunger and poverty first?

Other than that, I pretty much agreed with all they said. I think they made it seem a bit too easy (visualize yourself in a car and you'll get it! well, there are a few steps in between I'm sure, like coming up with a way to get some extra money so you can afford the car). The positive thinking is something we could all use in every aspect of our lives. Negetaive energy doesn't help anything.

[KoalaMama]

Originally Posted by haleyelianasmom

I just saw it today (took it out from the library). Am I the only one to be slightly bothered by their examples of wants? Necklace, car, bike, big house, lots of money... It all seemed pretty selfish to me. I'm not against wanting things, but expensive luxuries wouldn't be my first pick. How about an end to world hunger and poverty first?

They did talk about wanting lots of things other than material goods. There were two wonderful stories about wanting physical well being (the miracle man and breast cancer survivor), many about wanting better relationships (the couple that were fighting, the artist painting all the women, the woman on the beach playing volleyball...), wanting people to treat you well (the gay man who became a comedian), and a lot of information about manifesting world peace (John Canfield talking about Mother Teresa and being pro-peace, Hale Dwoskin talking about being pro- everyone having enough to eat...).

MsChatsALot (the most awesome woman ever) sat down with a timer and tracked every moment that referred to material goods, including discussion, examples and visuals. She said that all of these examples made up 12 minutes of the movie. That doesn't feel like too much to me.

Not picking on you at all, btw... It's just that this comes up all the time when people watch the movie, and I think it has more to do with our fascination with material goods (for better or worse!) than what is actually presented in the movie. This is probably one of the best lessons I got from watching The Secret, actually! Even if you're not for consumerism, you can be adding a whole lot of power to it by being against it.

[milk4two]

That's SO interesting! Thanks for posting that.

[WuWei]

Come share your Wise Ways of Women!! An LoA forum has manifested!! http://www.wisewaysofwomen.com/forums/index.php


Pat

[rharr!]

[QUOTE=mandib50;5413074]

one cool example ... we were driving to visit my husband and on the highway i though it would be really neat for the kids to see a helicopter landing.
we stopped at a highway gas station, pulled over to the side along a patch of grass. what shows up on that patch of grass? you bet, a helicopter, landed right there for the kids to see

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That is cool.

I thought that once about a tornado- and lo and behold, what drops out of the sky in a field right beside where I am waiting at a red light?
A FREAKIN' TORNADO!
That was years ago. I have always been a a firm believer of ask you shall recieve. I learned by trial and error, and thought I had magical powers at one point then at another point I wondered if I was just plain crazy

Now I know the secret :

I have yet to watch the movie. I really want to. Well I guess I must not REALLY want to, or else I would have seen it by now.. :

[WuWei]

Bumping.

Pat

[Stinkerbell]

Originally Posted by haleyelianasmom

I just saw it today (took it out from the library). Am I the only one to be slightly bothered by their examples of wants? Necklace, car, bike, big house, lots of money... It all seemed pretty selfish to me. I'm not against wanting things, but expensive luxuries wouldn't be my first pick. How about an end to world hunger and poverty first?

Other than that, I pretty much agreed with all they said. I think they made it seem a bit too easy (visualize yourself in a car and you'll get it! well, there are a few steps in between I'm sure, like coming up with a way to get some extra money so you can afford the car). The positive thinking is something we could all use in every aspect of our lives. Negetaive energy doesn't help anything.

I'm glad someone said it. I have abstained from posting at all because I do not want to be unsupportive to people who have found positive things in The Secret but the whole thing is upsetting to me on many levels.

1. the homosexual boy who escaped being bullied by not fearing it anymore. does this mean rape victims brought it upon themselves by fearing it? "blame the victim" mentality is damaging to the universe, imo.

2. the materialism of it. ick. just....ick. Someone told me yesterday that they visualized getting a good parking spot and lo and behold!! a good parking spot opened right up!! So, you have never had a good parking spot before? Oh, you have? And were you sitting there telling the universe that you WILL have it? I didnt think so.

3. the segregation of those who "buy it" and those who "don't". by their logic, the people starving all over our earth are just not visualizing food hard enough?

i find it irresponsible and i worry that it will contribute to a legion of lazy people who feel entitled to things they have not earned.

BUT, I fully, completely and whole heartedly support the power of positive thinking. When your mind is focused on positive things, you become more proactive and therefor put yourself on a path to goal acheiving. But the way The Secret is packed smacks to me of common sense wrapped up in materialism to make it palatable for guillible people.

And I am NOT insulting anyone who is digging it. This is simply my opinion which I think is still on topic, as the OP was "have you seen it?".

Okee dokee. I'm ready for the backlash.

[crunchyconmomma]

Originally Posted by Stinkerbell

I'm glad someone said it. I have abstained from posting at all because I do not want to be unsupportive to people who have found positive things in The Secret but the whole thing is upsetting to me on many levels.

1. the homosexual boy who escaped being bullied by not fearing it anymore. does this mean rape victims brought it upon themselves by fearing it? "blame the victim" mentality is damaging to the universe, imo.

2. the materialism of it. ick. just....ick. Someone told me yesterday that they visualized getting a good parking spot and lo and behold!! a good parking spot opened right up!! So, you have never had a good parking spot before? Oh, you have? And were you sitting there telling the universe that you WILL have it? I didnt think so.

3. the segregation of those who "buy it" and those who "don't". by their logic, the people starving all over our earth are just not visualizing food hard enough?

i find it irresponsible and i worry that it will contribute to a legion of lazy people who feel entitled to things they have not earned.

BUT, I fully, completely and whole heartedly support the power of positive thinking. When your mind is focused on positive things, you become more proactive and therefor put yourself on a path to goal acheiving. But the way The Secret is packed smacks to me of common sense wrapped up in materialism to make it palatable for guillible people.

And I am NOT insulting anyone who is digging it. This is simply my opinion which I think is still on topic, as the OP was "have you seen it?".

Okee dokee. I'm ready for the backlash.

Since I have NOOOOO intention of trying to convince you of anything, I am curious if you do want to know more, because your opinions are common views expressed by many who first view the movie. There is a wealth of info here, around the web, and at wisewaysofwomen.com which is a forum dedicated specifically to intentional manifestation, or intentional living, really.

Try HayHouseRadio.com, and listen to the show "Ask and It Is Given" with Esther and Jerry Hicks. Esther channels a collective consciousness that came to be called Abraham and Abe answers questions all about this stuff. And it is NOT at all materialistic business. It is about living life in accord with spiritual nature. There is one episode of the radio show in particular that may be of interest called April 25, 2007: Contrast Creates Desire. You need to create a user account to listen (I think, I know you do to download the mp3's) but it's free.

I think the movie was aimed at getting the masses involved but I do agree that it tainted things with a materialistic light, and maybe that was on purpose. The aim may have been true, but I suspect in wanting to get people to this way of thinking, they missed the mark with some, because it did seem so base.

I have really seen this stuff in a whole new way, and since having seen the movie in December, I have listened to 100's of hours of radio shows about spiritual issues that are aligned with this. It has opened up my world immensely and I do see that it was a shame that the movie turned so many off to it, since the intention (it seems) was to get everybody INTO it.

Just my .02!

[MsChatsAlot]

American culture and the vast majority of western culture is based on accumulating material goods.

If one wants to market an idea to the majority of those in western culture, it seems logical to use the desire that is strongest and focus on what they focus on themselves.

By the way, in the entire 90 minute movie, only about 12 minutes is actually showing or discussing material goods and/or money. (That includes several minutes totally devoted to the discussion of getting out of debt, which is not, in my mind, materialistic, but included anyway).