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post #1 of 10
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Heather’s “Elimination Information Communicative Thread” gave me an idea:

ECer’s, I wonder if those of you who started Ecing older children would be willing to share your success stories. I think it might be an incentive to those who want to try EC but think it can’t be done because “Oh, I should have started when my babe was a newborn. Too late now. I’ll just have to wait until they’re ready to potty train.” That was one of my self-discouraging remarks before I jumped in and tried it, when dd was 6 months old. I also get that remark from others parents when I tell them about EC.

I guess by “older children”, I mean 6 months and up. I would love to hear stories of babes younger than that, too, so for those parents – I am not trying to leave you out! Maybe we could have 2 threads, hmm? Starting EC from birth to 6 months, and starting EC from 6 months and up.

Anyhoo, I’ll start with my own story as the first reply.

Loon
post #2 of 10
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Loon's EC story.

(Note, moderators, feel free to edit my post if need be!)

We moved into cloth diapering when dd was 5 months, because she began to get rashes from both disposable wipes and diapers. Once in cloth, I was pretty diligent about changing her frequently. I *hated* the idea of her sitting in a wet diaper. (Fleece liners also gave dd a rash, so I couldn’t rely on them.) DD didn’t seem to mind though, and I sometimes found myself wondering when she would potty train if she didn’t mind wet diapers. (The only time I can remember her being at all upset at a dirty diaper was when she passed meconium in the first days of life.)

However, dd did mind diaper *changes*. She’s always been active and a wiggle worm from birth. So to be laid down and cleaned and changed when she could be rolling or sitting or whatever…she didn’t like it. Sometimes distraction worked, most times it didn’t.

I came across Ahleemah's website on EC while browsing the MDC diapering board. I was intrigued and I even mentioned to my husband that there were parents who were already pottying their babes. However, I thought it wouldn’t work for us because a) dd was just past 6 months, oops! too late and too hard to start now; and b) she didn’t seem to care about a dirty diaper, so how was I going to respond to her cues or teach cues?
I simply tucked the idea of EC in the back of my mind.

This is how we started: Dd woke from her nap one day with a dry diaper. I knew she had to pee and I didn’t know what to do: put the diaper back on and wait, or leave the diaper off and wait. DH came in when I called and asked his opinion. He took dd to the bathroom, held her on the toilet, and made a “psss” sound. DD PEED! I was so shocked and amazed! That did it. I was going to try EC.

We started part-time: in the mornings upon waking, and after naps. DD often nurses to sleep, so it was a good, predictable time to “catch” a pee. We didn’t always catch one because sometimes she did not have to go. But when she did, I would make a cue sound, and tell her that she peed. I also tried to watch her body language. I saw that she would get a “far-away” look, as if concentrating. We started using a Baby Bjorn potty, too. Since she could sit by herself now, it was easier than holding her over the toilet and she seemed to enjoy having her own “little chair.”

I then moved to night time Ecing. Sometimes dd woke with a dry diaper, sometimes not. Since we co-sleep, I put some prefold diapers under us on the bed, and put a diaper on her without a cover. I found that when she woke and wanted to go back to sleep, she would nurse and fall asleep right away. But when she woke and squirmed around, even though she would eventually start nursing, that is when she would wet the diaper. I started putting her potty beside the bed, so that when she squirms awake like that, I can pee her and then nurse her back to sleep.

Most nights now she can go the whole night dry, but sometimes she’ll squirm awake at least once during the night and need to pee. I do still use a backup diaper at night because there is still the every once in awhile miss, where I think even dd is too tired to get up and pee. (Haven’t we all felt like that sometimes? LOL!)

I was still relying mostly on timing. Over the course of 3 weeks, even if we were out and about, I kept a log of dd’s daytime pees and poops for about 3 weeks. If she peed on the potty, I would note that. If she had a wet or poopy diaper, I would note that. I did start to notice some sort of pattern: she pees quite frequently in the morning, usually within 45 minutes of nursing or eating, etc. (Poops are not as predictable. She is not regularly on solids yet, and still breastfeeding, so she can go some days without a poop.)

I wanted to start tuning into my “intuition”. I really started looking for signals from dd, because by now (almost 2 months into this), she WAS realizing that she could tell us she had to go. One day, she was playing on the floor and suddenly stopped, turned to me and tried to climb into my lap. I asked her if she had to pee, took her to potty, and sure enough, she peed! Most times she will still do this.

Usually when out, I would just let her go in the diaper. But then I started carrying the potty in the car with us. I told dd, “If you have to go potty, let Mommy know and she’ll try to stop so you can potty. If Mommy can’t stop, it’s okay to go in your diaper and Mommy will change you as soon as she can.” We were going to a friend’s house one morning, so given her pattern, I knew she would have to pee at one point. About 10 minutes into the drive, I heard her squirming and fussig. I pulled over, took her out of the car seat, pulled down her pants and voila! our first “pit stop”.

Today at 8 ½ months, I still use a combination of timing and intuition, although I asm trying to tune in more and more to intuition and cues from dd. I’d say we catch about 85% or pees and poops. Dd definitely minds now if I miss a pee or poop, she lets me know right away!

Although we are not 100% diaper free or accurate yet, I still consider us a success story because we started when she was 6 months old and we are able to do as much ECing as we do. Also, we are getting better at communicating every day. I hope parents who are interested will at least give EC a try!

Loon
post #3 of 10
Thanks for starting this thread! It's a topic dear to my heart.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: I can't understand why this "four to five month window of opportunity" myth keeps cropping up. Yes, ideally, EC should start as early as possible. I plan to start from birth with any future babes. That said, it is entirely possible to give up diapers at any time, four months, six months, eight months, ten months, twelve...you get the picture. Each stage is different, but doable.

We started going diaperless at home when dd was ten months old. We started going diaperless on outings at one year. When winter started, we resorted to training pants out of the house because we didn't want a snowsuit disaster. Now that it is spring, dd (17.5 mo) is wearing three-ply panties on outings.

Our first consistent catches were the morning pees, which we caught by holding up a tupperware container between standing dd's legs. We also had instant success with napping and dry nights.

We struggled, however, with poo. It took months for us to consistently catch poo. In many ways, I feel like our experience (dry nights early on, trouble with poo not pee) was contrary to the norm (nights are last, poos are first).

Anyway, it was a lot of work early on, but now I feel that we are reaping the benefits. I am particularly looking forward to summer. In retrospect, I feel bad that last summer dd was constantly in a bulky prefold and Bummis wrap. That must have been hot! This summer she will be in underwear, much more comfy.

Good luck to any of you considering taking the plunge with an "older" babe!

Edited to add that dd is nowhere near toilet independent. She needs me to offer to take her to the potty, to hold her in position, to wipe, etc.
post #4 of 10

we started around 8 or 10 months?

actually, I can't remember for sure right now.. but I think dd was walking already, so it must have been 10 months.
anyway, that is when I saw Darshani's website and first heard of this concept.

I got her little baby bjorn, and started trying to 'catch' What made this harder was that I was WOH during the week, and dh (who stays with dd during the day) thought I was nuts. But even with trying to practice EC just in the morning, at night and on the weekends, within weeks I would catch 90% of dd's pees. surprisingly enough, we did much worse with poop. Day before her 1st birthday, she brough the potty over to where I was sitting and pointed to it and said "ssssss". I took her diaper off and she sat on the potty and peed!!!!

so even started ec-ing pretty "late" and even only doing it part time, dd is SO far ahead of kids her age. She is really aware -- she is now 16.5 months and still in dipes most of the time, but asks to go to the potty. and even says "kaka" now if she has to poop. So I think that while there may be an "optimal" young age to start ec-ing, it is never too late.

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post #6 of 10
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bumping to keep topic alive.

I noticed some ladies were posting about starting EC with their older babies. Hope these stories will encourage you so far, and please add more!
post #7 of 10
Yay! More encouragement for us! We started just this week with ds who will be 1 on Sunday. We've caught one pee every morning and two after-nap pees the last two days. I'm not in the game to go diaperless or anything, but things are looking really good already. I'm so glad I'm not the only person trying to do this. DH even caught a pee today, too, so we're really happy about it all!

post #8 of 10
We just bought the Little Potty. I was wavering b/w the little one and the potty, but decided to start small and cheaper. I thought that she might really go for it, but the first day has not been a success on the potty. She had a nap late this afternoon, which is not her normal routine and was pretty out of sorts when she woke up, so limited success in catching those pees.

I have to say, other than the totally timed pees (like upon waking), I am having a REALLY difficult time catching any cue from her. We have been going diaperless for limited times during the day (and for naps) on a floor that is easy to clean up and I tell her that she peed and make the cue sound, but that's about it. I am trying not to build my expectations too high too quickly. She does look a bit bewildered when she pees on the floor, and sometimes even fusses, which I assume is because she also got her leg. This morning I thought that I was reading her signals ok, but this evening she was really protesting to the potty, me holding her, or anything to get her to pee. So I didn't push it. Don't want this to be upsetting to her!

I hope to have a day soon where I don't really have any other obligations, and can really spend time getting her pee routine down. I am sure that this will help.
post #9 of 10
I knew that my grandma had her kids potty trained at young ages. She was a farmer's wife in a rural community without any modern conveniences. I thought that if she could potty train kids by 13 or 15 months, so could I. After I had my DD, I asked my mum about it. She told me that they had really small pots for babies to pee in. At this point I knew nothing about EC, just grandma's stories and since my mum is 2nd of 7, she helped out with the younger babes. At five months old I caught my DD's first pee after a nap when I perched her on the potty. I immediately went shopping with my mum for a small pot replacement. I picked up a little bowl and struggled with it. My mum could easily manage the positioning of my babe, but I couldn't. I resorted to rarely ECing. After a couple months I tried it a bit more often and we had a little success with catching the odd pee. When DD was 9-10 months old, I noticed that she was waking up dry from her naps and I decided to pee her perched on the potty after her naps. I was successful doing that for a day or two and decided that I try her every 1/2 hour or so. I told my mum and she ran out and bought me a baby bjorn little potty. In just days DD was peeing all her pees in the potty and we were down to 2 diaps a day. I sewed her some panties and kept her in dresses and panties to make things easier for me. Then I started doing research on infant potty training and found all this great stuff. DD nursed alot so she didn't poo every day and it was harder for me to catch those. I relied solely on timing. By the time DD was 12 months we were about 100% on the pees and 30% on the poos. I just couldn't read her cues. Funny, but my mum could always tell when dd needed to poo, I chalk that up to experience. Summer was over and it was time to get out the fall clothes. I cut off all her onsies and made t-shirts, kept her in panties and pants for easy and quick access and got the poos up to 50%. In Jan, right around DD's 17 month b-day, she fully realised that the potty sign ( we do sign language ) could apply to poos as well as pees. Since then we've had rarely an accident and enjoy wearing panties and any type of clothes. There's no need to make sure it's quick to get off, there's always time enough. I'm amazed at her abilities to hold it when she needs to or when she doesn't want to use a particular rest room. We still use a diaper at night, because she doesn't always wake up to pee. She's sometimes wakes dry, but most often doesn't. I'm amazed that she can hold it for 12 hours those nights she doesn't wake to pee. I absolutely love not having to clean poo out of all the creases in a little girl. I love not having dirty diaper smell in my house. I love how clean EC is and how easy my life is now. I'm determined to start even earlier with my next babe. Now that I know what I'm doing, I think it will be even easier. For me, changing diapers was always a chore. I've always hated it. I hate soaking cloth diapes, scraping poo out of them, pretreating, hand washing, getting out stains, etc. EC is the easier method for me. It's fun for us to wave bye bye to the pee and poo when we flush, and it was fun for me to wave bye bye to the diapers!!!
post #10 of 10
I'm so glad I found this thread! My ds is 6.5 months old and I am seriously considering starting EC with him. Never thought I would see myself type that! I wish that I had taken the time to find out what EC was really about when I first heard of it, but I passed it off as wierd and didn't give it another thought. Then a few months later a woman at another board I post at (who's dd is only a day older than my son) posted that she was using EC with her child and wanted to know if any one else was too, she mentioned that she was going to start her next child at birth. Well I figured it took alot of hard work and clothing changes for both babe and mom and never gave it another thought.

Fast forward a few months, ds is getting pretty squirmy when I change him. He used to lay there so nicely while I diapered him, now it's like trying to diaper a wild pig. After a few weeks of diaper wrestling mathces and stabbing myself with pins I figure EC has got to be better than that stress, so I finally sat down and looked at a few EC sites. It's great to hear success stories of EC'ing with older babies.
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