rules my husband found for dating his daughte - Page 9

[treereach]

It amazes me how you manage to determine my finding the original post funny translates into my not educating my kids

But isn't educating her and empowering her really the only way you're going to prevent that?

Umm, i am not just talking about you.

I'm not sayin that anyone's gloriously happy when their teen daughter comes home pregnant

again, where is the reference to you?

And the shotgun conversation we all participated in, remember?

[Houdini]

Originally Posted by UnschoolnMa

You are right. Protective makes perfect sense to me. I am protective of my kids. (They are protective of me too, but that's not the point.) What I have a problem with is saying that threatening to kill or seriously injure someone elses teen is acceptable and just being "protective". IMO it's like excusing spanking a kid with a belt by calling it a "discipline" or "a paddling" instead of assault. You know...the things a great deal of people on this board are against.

If a person ever came after my son with a shot gun, or a bow and arrow or any other weapon I would call the police asap. Somehow I don't think an explanation of "He was on a date with my daughter and got home 45 minutes late." or "He told a lie to my daughter and made her cry." is a good enough reason for a grown man (or anyone really) to physically injure a teenager. It'd likely get you arrested. People mess up. They are late, teens have dramatic moments in their relationships just like everyone else with moments of anger and sadness, betrayal and reunion. No one needs to get shot ya know?

Are you seriously missing the fact that a large portion of this debate has been in jest. I highly doubt Yoshua will come hunting your child down anymore than I would. That being said, I have no issues with using whatever lawful means I have at my disposal to ensure my child's safety.

[Houdini]

Originally Posted by UnschoolnMa

The shotgun remark is mostly aimed at Yoshua. I don't own a shotgun either.

Why shouldn't your crew meet mine exactly? (Well unless we live close we prob wouldnt anyway but ...lol) It started because some folks thought it was funny, and some found it horrifying. That started a conversation as to why each side thought what they though. It happens a lot. It's debate.

Sorry......my brain and mood have been going downhill and I think I am starting to get too serious about this thread. I need to take I few breaths and go back to the fun aspect.

[treereach]

Yoshua

If one of my boys ever dates one of your daughters feel free to clean your gun 'accidently' in their view. Same goes for if my daughter ever dates a son of yours.

I don't think that much of this conversation has been in jest, although, obviously the OP was in jest. I get the joke, I just don't think it's funny and you guys are bringing up some very unfunny reasons for supporting it.

[treereach]

But whatever, I only have boys and had no father, so this whole concept is obviously going to be different to me than to some others.

[Houdini]

Originally Posted by treereach

Umm, i am not just talking about you.


again, where is the reference to you?

And the shotgun conversation we all participated in, remember?

Sorry, these comments came after one of my posts and since I was the only one not agreeing with you I assumed you were referring to me. I guess they are right about assumptions. Besides, if you weren't 'just talking about me' then I must have been part of the person you were referring to. Next time, let me know when you want me to respond so I don't step on your toes.

[Houdini]

Originally Posted by treereach

I don't think that much of this conversation has been in jest, although, obviously the OP was in jest. I get the joke, I just don't think it's funny and you guys are bringing up some very unfunny reasons for supporting it.

Alright most of mine has been in jest and I think that a bit of Yoshua's as well. Sorry......must go back to my cleaning while I wait for my daughter to return from her date.

[UnschoolnMa]

Originally Posted by Houdini

Sorry......my brain and mood have been going downhill and I think I am starting to get too serious about this thread. I need to take I few breaths and go back to the fun aspect.

It's alright, we all get carried away. Me included. I never found any part of the original joke all that funny though. And therein lies the issue at the heart of the thread I guess lol.

I think my issue is that I do not think Yoshua is making these remarks in jest. I actually did say something about how it's either a joke or it's serious when you say "I will kill you." And Yoshua said something (don't have it right in front of me) about how it's only a joke if the kid listens to what he says. This implies if that kid doesn't listen he will actually injure or kill said teen?

So much is hard to detect without facial and tone of voice cues. But I seriously want to know what Yoshua means regarding threats of violence against teen males. Either he is serious or he is doing a puffed up macho , respect my authority thing.

[Houdini]

Originally Posted by UnschoolnMa

It's alright, we all get carried away. Me included. I never found any part of the original joke all that funny though. And therein lies the issue at the heart of the thread I guess lol.

I think my issue is that I do not think Yoshua is making these remarks in jest. I actually did say something about how it's either a joke or it's serious when you say "I will kill you." And Yoshua said something (don't have it right in front of me) about how it's only a joke if the kid listens to what he says. This implies if that kid doesn't listen he will actually injure or kill said teen?

So much is hard to detect without facial and tone of voice cues. But I seriously want to know what Yoshua means regarding threats of violence against teen males. Either he is serious or he is doing a puffed up macho , respect my authority thing.

I really think this is just Yoshua's sense of humor, which I totally understand. I am much along the same lines as he is with the humor stuff, so I guess that is why I am taking it with a grain of salt.

[treereach]

Next time, let me know when you want me to respond so I don't step on your toes.

Of course I wanted you to respond. I was just responding to what you said:

I am educating my daughter and empowering her to make wise decisions. It amazes me how you manage to determine my finding the original post funny translates into my not educating my kids. I also am not seeing the jump to my daughter being pregnant as a teen either.

with this:

Umm, i am not just talking about you.

I was just saying that I think we should respond to the pressures our daughters face with education and empowerment, not threats to their boyfriends.
And I was just telling you that I wasn't talking about YOU educating your daughter, specifically.

[Houdini]

Originally Posted by treereach

I was just saying that I think we should respond to the pressures our daughters face with education and empowerment, not threats to their boyfriends.
And I was just telling you that I wasn't talking about YOU educating your daughter, specifically.

You were just referring to those who you believe to educate their children the way you think I do. You were assuming b/c of my responses on this thread that I wasn't educating my child the correct way.

[Yoshua]

Originally Posted by Houdini

I am suspicious of everyone when I first meet them. I don't care if you are a teen or an adult. I reserve the right to be suspicious until I am shown otherwise.

that

[Yoshua]

Originally Posted by UnschoolnMa

The shotgun remark is mostly aimed at Yoshua. I don't own a shotgun either.

Why shouldn't your crew meet mine exactly? (Well unless we live close we prob wouldnt anyway but ...lol) It started because some folks thought it was funny, and some found it horrifying. That started a conversation as to why each side thought what they though. It happens a lot. It's debate.

I don't own a shot gun or have a daughter. But when I get the daughter the next purchase is the shot gun.

[Yoshua]

Originally Posted by treereach

I don't think that much of this conversation has been in jest, although, obviously the OP was in jest. I get the joke, I just don't think it's funny and you guys are bringing up some very unfunny reasons for supporting it.

oh really? I've been sitting here all day laughing my ace off.

my SO just said 'are you just messing with them now?' about 30 seconds ago.

i'm not though, i full heartedly mean every word I said in this thread that occured in the 15th sentance of the second post on the 10th page.

yup, every word.

[Yoshua]

Originally Posted by Houdini

You were just referring to those who you believe to educate their children the way you think I do. You were assuming b/c of my responses on this thread that I wasn't educating my child the correct way.

yeah some people seem to be judgemental, sheesh, that is just wrong.

[Houdini]

Originally Posted by Yoshua

oh really? I've been sitting here all day laughing my ace off.

my SO just said 'are you just messing with them now?' about 30 seconds ago.

i'm not though, i full heartedly mean every word I said in this thread that occured in the 15th sentance of the second post on the 10th page.

yup, every word.

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I am so with you on this Yoshua.

[Ruthla]

I don't think ANYBODY is taking this seriously. Where we differ is whether or not this is an appropriate topic to joke about. Here's a poll I made about this topic.

[Houdini]

Originally Posted by UnschoolnMa

I think my issue is that I do not think Yoshua is making these remarks in jest. I actually did say something about how it's either a joke or it's serious when you say "I will kill you." And Yoshua said something (don't have it right in front of me) about how it's only a joke if the kid listens to what he says. This implies if that kid doesn't listen he will actually injure or kill said teen?

There goes the noone is taking this seriously on this thread theory.

[Yoshua]

my SO also asked last night 'So.... do you get the shotgun at the ultra sound or wait till the birth?' and I said 'Wait for the birth silly, it takes a while to get a concealed shotgun permit'

[Houdini]

And everyone knows the ultrasound could be wrong. No sense getting the shotgun if you are positive the baby is a girl.