Merck Vaccine research plants puts cyanide into creek...

[menudo]

At work but had to post...This raises so many questions, issues...

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?se...cal&id=4296343

Upper Gwynedd, Pa. - June 22, 2006 - Federal investigators are pointing to Merck's vaccine manufacturing plant in West Point as the source of the cynanide-related contamination in Wisshickon Creek.

More than 1,000 fish were killed.

The Environmental Protection Agency wrote in a statement that a Merck representative had notified the agency Tuesday that a vaccine research "pilot plant" had released about 25 gallons of potassium thiocyanate into the sewer system.

Potassium thiocyanate is a chemical compound that includes cyanide.

State environmental experts found cyanide in the sewers feeding the Upper Gwynedd waste water treatment plant as well in the creek downstream.


Dennis Harvey of the DEP says, "Cynanide came into the plant, and a form of cyanide left the plant."
The DEP found 100 parts per billion of cyanide in the water. That's too little to hurt humans, but five times the levels needed to kill fish.

The Wissahickon feeds the larger Schuylkill. Last week's incident prompted an unprecedented ban on river sports. The ban was quickly lifted.

On Wednesday, to demonstrate that all is well and that no cynanide was ever detected in the river, organizers of the Philadelphia triathlon wanted to make a point. The idea, says Lars Beck of the Philadelphia Insurance Triathlon, was to "Jump in the river and go for a swim and show that it is, in fact, clean."

[~member~]

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[menudo]

I googled and found it is used IN a Merck HepB vax...

http://medsafe.govt.nz/Consumers/cmi/h/HBvaxPRO.htm

[pumpkinsmama]

I wonder how many eyes this will open, if any? Thanks for the link. DH really got a kick out of it... The stuff used/injected into our children killing the fish can cause an uproar and an article... But only when it kills fish, not kids. :

[marilynmama]

Originally Posted by pumpkinsmama

I wonder how many eyes this will open, if any? :

Ya, if any....

[AutumnMama]

Ugh...my DD probably got that(those) Hep B vax :

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

Ironic is it not, that the site you posted was in New Zealand, not the States...

[rareimer]

Originally Posted by pumpkinsmama

The stuff used/injected into our children killing the fish can cause an uproar and an article... But only when it kills fish, not kids. :

how does this NOT get people questioning vaxes?! the things contain a form of CYANIDE, but that's okay as long as it doesn't kill any fish?! :

[menudo]

Home from work now...

From what I have seen ONLY this station had the vaccine plant information. The rest are skimming it over. Hmmmm... I think that creek is also the name and source of a major bottle water company too.

I know Merck has a plant around me here, they advertised a job online once but I never could find it again...they are under another name but are a subsidiary of Merck.

Here is another story-just a blurb no vax mention:

http://www.nbc10.com/news/9412314/detail.html

EPA: Merck Responsible For Cyanide In Wissahickon

The Environmental Protection Agency said Merck's research facility in West Point, Pa., is responsible for the cyanide leak into the Wissahickon Creek that killed more than 1,000 fish last week.

Authorities issued a health alert when they were made aware of the fish kill, telling people to stay away from the Schuylkill River and Wissahickon Creek. The Schuylkill's advisory was lifted Friday, but the advisory for the Wissahickon remains in place.

A Merck representative notified the EPA on Tuesday about a discharge of potassium thiocyanate, which is a chemical compound that includes cyanide, according the EPA. The contaminant is believed to have gone into the Upper Gwynedd wastewater treatment plant by way of the sewage system and then into the Wissahickon Creek.

How convenient! There is a major triathalon bringing cash into Philly this weekend involving that water, no way they are gonna admit it is bad! Note prioer to the cyanide announcement it states (in first news article) that they were encouraging people to JUMP IN! WTF?

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

You have to wonder if its just the first time, or whether its just that they got caught this time.

[melos]

Yeah, I heard this on the local news radio station today.

We have a couple of people in the office that are doing the marathon, one of them was bragging about jumping in and showing the news team that they were fine....:

[snoodess]

EPA identifies Merck plant as source of Wissahickon Creek pollution

Local paper finally picked it up.

What do folks know here about Rotateq?

This article mad me so freaking angry on so many different levels about so many different things I don't even know where to begin

Close family friends of ours took their dogs swimming in the 'hick before they knew about the advisory

I am thoroughly nauseated.

[Marco Esquandolas]

Originally Posted by Momtezuma Tuatara

You have to wonder if its just the first time, or whether its just that they got caught this time.

Eh, it happens *somewhat* often, and is usually kept very quiet and downplayed as much as possible. One of the other pHARMa co's I worked for one time, this was inks and dyes-someone dumped red dye down a sink drain that was a BIG NO NO and it polluted a nearby river. The co. got a fine and had to pay for the clean up. That was it. Just a whoops, sorry 'bout that, here's a check. thank ya.:

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[Ruthla]

Originally Posted by pumpkinsmama

I wonder how many eyes this will open, if any? Thanks for the link. DH really got a kick out of it... The stuff used/injected into our children killing the fish can cause an uproar and an article... But only when it kills fish, not kids. :

Playing Devil's Advocate for a minute:

Just because a large quantity of the stuff killed the fish doesn't automatically mean that a tiny dose is dangerous for a person. Plenty of drugs are "helpful medicine" in the right dose and "toxic overdoses" in larger quantities. I don't want to get into a whole debate about whether or not such drugs are really health-promoting, but most people who beleive vaccines are safe and effective buy into this line of reasoning.

[snoodess]

Originally Posted by phishmama

Eh, it happens *somewhat* often, and is usually kept very quiet and downplayed as much as possible. One of the other pHARMa co's I worked for one time, this was inks and dyes-someone dumped red dye down a sink drain that was a BIG NO NO and it polluted a nearby river. The co. got a fine and had to pay for the clean up. That was it. Just a whoops, sorry 'bout that, here's a check. thank ya.:

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Phishmama we REALLY miss you over on FNLP. Where'd ya go? Please come to the potluck at my house 7/1 if you can

[eloquence]

Did anyone see the ad at the top of the news page about some "equal' (artificial sweetener) double decker bus going around Philly giving out free drinks, promoting their products, in the hot summer? Ugh.

[rareimer]

for me, there's no safe level of cyanide. especially when it's being injected into people!

[mykdsmomy]

ok question: Did anyone actually jump into the river and if so, A. are they still alive and B. Are they now growing some sort of extra arm out their head? I'm being facetious, of course. MT hit it right on the nose when she said you have to wonder how many times something like this happens and doesnt get picked up in the news (paraphrased).

[LongIsland]

Originally Posted by Ruthla

Playing Devil's Advocate for a minute:

Just because a large quantity of the stuff killed the fish doesn't automatically mean that a tiny dose is dangerous for a person. Plenty of drugs are "helpful medicine" in the right dose and "toxic overdoses" in larger quantities. I don't want to get into a whole debate about whether or not such drugs are really health-promoting, but most people who beleive vaccines are safe and effective buy into this line of reasoning.

That's right, they do buy into that line of reasoning. However, those people who do buy into that reasoning should ask themselves this:

Which harmless ingredient in vaccines - administered in the proper dose, at the proper interval - causes the laundry list of recognized and/or compensatable vaccine injuries/adverse events?

The ones conveniently left off the VIS handed to parents at their ped visit.