Hey DDC mamas!

[Geofizz]

Hey moms of kid born- or expected-to-have-been-born in December 05!

A question for you all.

Elliot is chewy chewy chewy these days.

Elliot needs teething biscuits. I'd made Karen some really good ones without any wheat, but they were sweetened with honey. What's the story on honey for babies under a year when it's cooked? I've never figured that one out. I know raw honey isn't ok because of botulism (sp?) but won't cooking kill that?

The other sweetener I'd use is maple syrup, but since DH is allergic to maple syrup, it's going to be held back until age 2.

(Like the generic title? Like the fact that you can't tell what the thread's about using the mouse over?)

[IncaMama]

hm...good question. i don't know about cooked honey, i have no idea. can you sweeten with applesauce if honey's a no-go?

(yes. LOL!)

[aisraeltax]

oh we are a devious bunch!!!

this may help (but may not)


It isn't possible to remove the bacteria from honey by processing, without caramelising the honey. The British Honey Importers and Packers Association has advised its members to say on honey labels that honey should not be given to babies under 12 months. But this is not compulsory.

or this --

Q.
Hello Mary I wanted to ask you--we were talking about cheerios as a snack-- My kids don't like the regular Cheerios so I thought about trying the Honey Nut Cheerios. I noticed they do have honey in them. I know that babies aren't supposed to have honey (processed or otherwise) until they are 1 year old. Do you think that maybe they have such a miniscule amount of honey in them that it wouldn't matter or should I just stay away from them?
A.

I was thinking that the honey and sugar coating on Honey Nut Cheerios makes the cereal hard. It may be more of a choking hazard for a little one that does not chew than regular Cheerios.
As far as honey goes, I have done some research into that and the honey that is a risk to little ones is honey that is all natural and not heat treated. Although this is the healthiest type of honey, it does contain spores that can be dangerous to the very young with an underdeveloped digestive system. The Honey Nut Cheerios being cooked would have killed those spores.
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this by no means answers your question definitively...sorry i coudlnt find more reliable references.

[Spark]

you are so evil wendy!!!

i'm pretty sure bakin at 250 kills botulism

[Geofizz]

Originally Posted by Spark

i'm pretty sure bakin at 250 kills botulism

That's the info I wanted.

Our honey is local and oh so yummy, but not at all processed. I guess Karen and I are making crackers tomorrow!

[Panthira]

Can I have the recipe, Wendy?

[kir]

me too i need that recipe!!

i've been giving K&A all kinds of stuff to teethe on in those mesh feeders, but those are a PiTA to clean!

K

[Geofizz]

Ok, I spent 30 minutes trying to find where I'd typed out the recipe before. Sometimes it's just easier to start over?

From LLL's Whole Foods for babies and toddlers, changed to make it a better teething cracker (thicker and harder)

"Oatmeal crackers"
5 c rolled oats ground finely in a blender
1 c water
1/4 c honey
1/2 c oil

Mix the water, honey and oil, stir in ~3/4 of the oats to make a stiff, dry dough. Flour a work surface with the remaining ground oats. Knead for ~1 minute to make a smooth ball. Roll out the dough to make a kind of thick layer (~3/8"; original recipe says 1/4"). Cut into hand-sized pieces and prick each square with a fork. Bake at 350°F for about 20 minutes (until brown). Prop the door open to allow them to cool slowly and harden. If I decide they aren't hard enough, I flip them and toast again for 10-15 minutes at 200°F.

Of course, I hadn't done this for a few years. If DD and I make them today, I'll report back.