Pulled my gun... - Page 14

[Lazyhead]

Originally Posted by Cardinal

He later reposted and said that he did not point it at the driver. Did you read all the posts and especially my posts on the last two pages? I quoted his words. He retold the story and said he did not point it at any one.

I think you mean to say that he CHANGED his story. I believe that he did this because he didn't receive the universal approval for his actions that he was seeking.

And to state again, I have read all the posts. I swear

[Houdini]

no matter where you pointed your gun. I stand behind your judgement Moose.

[mamamoo]

I have a bumper sticker that says you can no more win a war than you can in an earthquake. Nobody wins in a war...

[babygrant]

He later reposted and said that he did not point it at the driver. Did you read all the posts and especially my posts on the last two pages? I quoted his words. He retold the story and said he did not point it at any one.

Yes, I've read everything. I agree with Lazyhead. Changed his story when he got critiqued for pointing the gun at the driver.

[Cardinal]

Originally Posted by babygrant

Yes, I've read everything. I agree with Lazyhead. Changed his story when he got critiqued for pointing the gun at the driver.

Well, if you don't believe what the Original Poster wrote, then why even respond to anything he writes in the first place? If he is lying about what happened and is changing his story to appease people on the internet, why even voice your concerns? I believe what he wrote and I believe that he probably had to come back and retype his post -- most likely because he typed in a heated moment the first time and didn't concentrate on every cotton pickin' detail of the event. It was probably a very stressful situation and the experience may have really affected him. If you don't believe the OP and his words, I can't imagine why you'd even bother to continue posting on this thread.

[Yoshua]

He had every right to point the gun at the driver and warn them to leave.


The cops told him he did.


End of story right?

[swimswamswum]

Originally Posted by Yoshua

He had every right to point the gun at the driver and warn them to leave.


The cops told him he did.


End of story right?

Not everyone equates legal with moral.

[Yoshua]

Originally Posted by swimswamswum

Not everyone equates legal with moral.

Well on that stance I believe he is morally obligated to protect his kids the best way he knows how.


So if you are going to morally judge him, if a woman was in the same place and had performed the same actions would you be judging her as harshly?


(that is not a snarky question btw)


A man was defending his kids using snap judgements that worked for the best in this situation. I understand that 'attempting' to take the moral high ground and proclaim 'guns are the devil' is one route to go. But I don't believe in that and my Moral High Ground tells me he was Morally and Legally in the right.

Not all people have the same morals, and that doesn't mean people with different morals than you are 'bad'. Just 'different'.


judgements get us no where in life, and I would rather teach my children to be 'accepting' to a point.


If someone implies they are going to inflict harm upon you, do everything you can to protect yourself and make sure you come out of the situation in the least harm possible. If that means run away? Run away. If that means 'hand them your wallet', then hand them your wallet. If all else fails and that means standing up for yourself, then you had better stand up for yourself.


That is what I want teach my children.

[pieface]

First of all, I am once again shocked that a board I used to go to for its gentle perspectives is filled with people who condone the use of force.

Second, the OP's post is sexist: why would only dads pack heat?

[Yoshua]

Originally Posted by pieface

First of all, I am once again shocked that a board I used to go to for its gentle perspectives is filled with people who condone the use of force.

Second, the OP's post is sexist: why would only dads pack heat?

1-He is not sexist. he posted a question to fathers in the 'Dad's' area. Check where you are lurking

2-There was no violance on either side. just implied violance from both sides. And any protective mamma bear would protect her children tooth and nail so implieing that he was wrong in what he did is sexist on your part. Not saying that all mom's would react the same in THIS situation, but all the mom's I know personally would protect their children tooth and nail.

[swimswamswum]

Yes I would judge a woman the same way. I really don't understand why everyone keeps bringing up gender. I think that the OP overreacted.

I also don't care if you all think I'm some kind of rainbow hugging wimp. You know very little about me and my life.

I am done with this thread. I have lost a lot of respect for many of the folks on here. I don't appreciate all of the assumptions and jokes made about people who would rather not engage in violence.

Please don't assume that I and others who aren't lauding the OP don't live in "reality", whatever that means. Just because I don't subscribe to the culture of fear doesn't mean I'm ignorant.

Peace out.

[Lucy VanPelt]

I am in shock that someone who is worried about protecting his 2yo would pull a gun out to intimidate someone. How do those 2 thoughts even go together?

Obviously, the OP has some problems with rational thought. I don't think he should be left alone with his 2yo, anymore, if the best way he knows how to handle someone following him in his car is to drive home and pull a gun on the person. There are many, many better ways to deal with that. Many. And, even his thought of getting out and verbally confronting the person was a much better idea than pulling a gun out.

You don't pull a gun out unless you plan on using it. And, being okay with the possibility of shooting someone in front of your child, but not being okay with verbal confrontation in front of your child screams mental issues. Get some help, dude.

[pieface]

WHY would he drive HOME with someone following him? I wouldn't let my husband drive my child ANYWHERE ever again after this.

It IS sexist to only assume that a man would carry a gun. I don't care where he posted it.

[Yoshua]

Originally Posted by swimswamswum

Yes I would judge a woman the same way. I really don't understand why everyone keeps bringing up gender. I think that the OP overreacted.

I also don't care if you all think I'm some kind of rainbow hugging wimp. You know very little about me and my life.

I am done with this thread. I have lost a lot of respect for many of the folks on here. I don't appreciate all of the assumptions and jokes made about people who would rather not engage in violence.

Please don't assume that I and others who aren't lauding the OP don't live in "reality", whatever that means. Just because I don't subscribe to the culture of fear doesn't mean I'm ignorant.

Peace out.

Now now, Don't put words in my mouth. I specifically said there is nothing wrong with either belief on this subject to me. I didn't insult you at all. I apologize if you took it that way. Sincerely.


Did I say you don't live in reality? No. Wow, you like to assume alot of things that arent there.


As for Ignorant? Feel free to live in a gun free zone. Be sure to tell the murder's and thieves they have to use knives.

peace out.

[Dawn38]

Originally Posted by liki

Hi, Hubby of Liki posting here...

Not having been there, and after reading the OP, I side with the OP.
ASSUMES, you say? Yes, forensics will prove definatively where, when, how, and (Maybe) even why you were murdered. Sometimes they even catch the dirtbag that did it. But you are still dead.


Thus endeth the sermon.

I agree with everything you posted but I didn't want to quote it all and take up so much room.

[Yoshua]

Originally Posted by pieface

WHY would he drive HOME with someone following him? I wouldn't let my husband drive my child ANYWHERE ever again after this.

It IS sexist to only assume that a man would carry a gun. I don't care where he posted it.

I think his wife is certified too.

You are the only one assuming anything here.


He just asked dads. He didnt say 'lil lady, you don't own a gun so I won't ask you'.


in any way shape or form.


You are putting words into his mouth, he asked Dad's. Period. He did not say women don't own guns and many women have come in talking about hte fact that they do.

[Houdini]

Originally Posted by Lucy VanPelt

You don't pull a gun out unless you plan on using it. And, being okay with the possibility of shooting someone in front of your child, but not being okay with verbal confrontation in front of your child screams mental issues. Get some help, dude.

This is assuming that the only thing the child would have witnessed was a verbal altercation. What if the other driving starting beating the OP. It amazes that there is a jump to mental issues b/c you are protecting your child. He already stated that he would have turned the aim at the vehicle disabling it.

[Yoshua]

Originally Posted by Lucy VanPelt

I am in shock that someone who is worried about protecting his 2yo would pull a gun out to intimidate someone. How do those 2 thoughts even go together?

Obviously, the OP has some problems with rational thought. I don't think he should be left alone with his 2yo, anymore, if the best way he knows how to handle someone following him in his car is to drive home and pull a gun on the person. There are many, many better ways to deal with that. Many. And, even his thought of getting out and verbally confronting the person was a much better idea than pulling a gun out.

You don't pull a gun out unless you plan on using it. And, being okay with the possibility of shooting someone in front of your child, but not being okay with verbal confrontation in front of your child screams mental issues. Get some help, dude.

Verbal altercations in road rage incidents usualy escalate statistically speaking.

I would not be ok with being shot by the other person in that situation personally, and none of you know if that 'kid' had a gun or not.

being followed for MILES implies he intends to do some physical harm at some point in time.



And as for followed home? moose didnt stop at his house if I recall, he stopped down the street.

[Houdini]

Originally Posted by pieface

WHY would he drive HOME with someone following him? I wouldn't let my husband drive my child ANYWHERE ever again after this.

It IS sexist to only assume that a man would carry a gun. I don't care where he posted it.

Just wondering where the OP said that only a man would carry a gun? I don't recall that being in his posts.

As far as your trust issues with your husband. It is sad that you wouldn't trust your husband's judgment in a situation. I think that alone speaks volumes.

The other driver had no idea that the OP was anywhere near his own home. The OP poster could have just as easily pulled in front of my home or yours.

[pieface]

Any person with an ounce of common sense would drive to a public place.

I would love to continue but my posts would just get deleted so I'll leave this thread to the jock supporters.