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post #381 of 554
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Originally Posted by Pattyla
What are you currently doing to kill your yeast? I think that this new herbal yeast killer is a key for me. You need something to attack the yeast directly. How much garlic are you doing? Also this new chiro said that you need to change up your yeast killer every few weeks cause the yeast will mutate and become resistant pretty quickly.

I think that for me the kefir was making things worse so I have quit making it. Plus it was just one more thing to keep up with.:
I quit kefir for the same reasons.
I am only doing garlic, been eating 2-6 cloves a day but I think the candida is resistant now. Although I read somewhere it can't be resistant to allicin, but I guess it can.... so what do you use?
I'm afraid to try GSE for contamination problems, or collodial silver, it's just sounds scary and I've seen pictures of people with gray skin.
maybe OOO? It's supposed to give you a huge die-off which I can't handle right now. First I have to wait until things calm down a bit...
Is olive leaf effective?
I have tried Candidase which did nothing so I'm thinking I'll try Candex and kombucha. I'm also taking Culturelle but not sure how strong it is against yeast.
Also thinking about Fungal defense-it has cellulase and herbs including OOO, together with probiotics.
All this after the next paycheck....
post #382 of 554
[QUOTE=Pookietooth]So, those who don't allow their kids to have fruit -- how do you do it? DS clamors for fruit every time we are at the store, and I end up giving in to him because otherwise I can't get out of the store without a meltdown. He's clearly addicted to fruit, and in fact that's almost all he eats. It makes him hyper, which even dh recognizes. Problem is, dh says that it's because he's not allowed much else besides veggies (which he won't eat) and meat. So his solution is to introduce grains! What else can I do? Just leaving him at home is not an option, as he freaks out whenever he's separated from me (major separation anxiety, still, and dh feels that I can't leave him with him (dh) when he wants to come with me). Sometimes I could strangle dh!



what about compromising with low-sugar fruits?

Does he tolerate avocados? They're the best.
Or berries. You could cook them and mix a few in his yogurt. Or make a coconut milk smoothie. What i do is I squeese it though a strainer so I can get rid of the skin and seeds.
I read it in NT or the website that too much fructose is really not good for kids.
Also, there is no enzyme for fructose as far as I know as it's simple and gets absorbed like glucose but some people don't do well with fructose. So try to keep it to a minimum and only in whole fruit with the fibers, no juices.

My DD gets about 1 piece of fruit a day, usually berries(a few), or a banana, or a peach, or cherries... but she is advanced SCD. Too much fruit (more than 2 pieces) still makes her poop too mushy.
post #383 of 554
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Originally Posted by Pattyla
What are you currently doing to kill your yeast? I think that this new herbal yeast killer is a key for me.
What is the new herbal yeast killer you are using?
post #384 of 554

Please tell me its gonna get better

We started SCD almost 2 weeks ago with our DS. So far the only food we "think" he tolerates is cauliflower, green beans and bananas. I say think because how do you tell a reaction to the food from die off?

He can't digest carrots, walnut flour or boiled raisins(they showed up in his BM's) and he had a very itchy reaction to DCCC.

His reaction to the boiled raisins was interesting. He was up itchy all night, then he peed so much the next day he leaked 3 times and then finally the next day he pooped them out. Was this a die off reaction?

He doesn't like the meat anymore. He will sit and chew and chew the chicken and then won't swallow it. He keeps saying get me something I like.

He has eaten so much squish(cauliflower) at this point that his breath smells sulfer(y).

He is uncharacteristically moody and difficult(this started a couple of months ago). He has always been the happiest, most active child. Now everything is a struggle. Some days we can't stand to even be around him. Which really hurts because he is 3. This is supposed to be the fun time. We walk around on eggshells around him. Something can be perfectly fine one minute and then the next he is throwing a fit.

Should I be expecting any improvement in the eczema yet? It is awful. His legs from top to bottom are covered. The tops of his feet are raw, cracked, flaky and just so sore and horrible looking. His arms and hands. His belly itches and it has never been on his belly. He is getting spots behind his ears again and they have broken out for more than a year. He is miserable

Is the fact that it is moving around a good sign? Is there light at the end of this tunnel?

He doesn't sleep more than 2 or 3 hours at a time. He has maybe slept all night 5 times in his life but at least we were getting 4 and 5 hour stretches at a time. Being tired all the time makes it so much harder to deal with for all of us.

Am I right in thinking that if his eczema were a food allergy related thing then since he has been on such a restricted diet for two weeks shouldn't it be improving? Or does die off interfere with this?

How long can he continue on this restricted diet and be healthy?

He is taking kirkman everyday vit. twice per day and carlson's clo 1/4 teaspoon twice per day.

How do you keep a child who cant tolerate eggs, nuts and fruit full on SCD?

What kind of testing is suggested for metal toxicity(he was vaxinated) vit/min deficiency, bacteria, etc?

So much I would do over if I could.....He was fed soy formula(I tried to BF but my milk never came in) and he was vaxinated. one month after his round of 4 month shots he got eczema. I have had it since a teen but only a very mild case. He is highly allergic to eggs and modertely allergic to a host of other things....just a little of his background.
post #385 of 554
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Originally Posted by sarahariz
What is the new herbal yeast killer you are using?
http://www.modernherbalist.com/products/sf-722.html


This isn't where I bought it but where I googled first. I take 3 3x a day.

DD's sleep was terrible last night. At least she wasn't upset in the middle of the night, she just couldn't sleep. She even asked me to rock her back to sleep at one point. Luckily we have another adjustment for her today.
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post #387 of 554
[QUOTE=Pattyla]http://www.modernherbalist.com/products/sf-722.html

Oh that's the one derived from castor beans... let me know how it goes.
I'm a little leary about castor oil but at this point I don't care, if it works. I'm not BF-ing any more, so I'm willing to take risks to get rid of the yeast beast.
post #388 of 554
Logansmom,

Have you tired giving him enzymes with the problem foods. A 3-yr old should eat more than cauliflowers and bananas. Proteins and fats are very important!
My DD has eczema and it was very bad last December (all over her tummy) after a round of abx for ear infection. That's when we started the diet and it's going really well. It's working for her and we never really did the induction. We don't use nut flours, though. I think nut flours and butters are a problem because they weren't soaked.
She is not allergic to eggs, so that's great. She also eats meat.

Have you tried serving the meat in a different way? Like in a casserole with cauliflower, (maybe broccoli as it's similar?). Can he eat cheese? I guess not if DCCC is a problem. Does he tolerate butter? Just drench everything in butter.
Have you tried the jello made with fruit juice? Chicken broth?

Eczema will get a lot worse (die-off) in the first few weeks. The worst part lasted about 2-3 weeks for me and I still get die-off cycles. I'm having a hard time with my hands right now.
post #389 of 554
DS will not eat avocados, it's a texture thing I think. The only veggies he will eat are peas and carrots, and those only occasionally. He does sometimes eat yogurt or cheese. Some nuts too, but they are so expensive! He does like peanuts, but of course those aren't really nuts. I will try to avoid fruit as much as possible, but the only veggie dh will eat is lettuce (and some raw veggies). The pickiness is catching!
post #390 of 554
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Originally Posted by EBG
Have you tired giving him enzymes with the problem foods.
I haven't tried enzymes because I am a little leary of them. Still researching.

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Originally Posted by EBG
Have you tried serving the meat in a different way?
Yes, we have tried it everyway we can think. He wasn't much of a meat eater before.

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Originally Posted by EBG
Have you tried the jello made with fruit juice? Chicken broth?
Yes, he tired of the jello early on. We started the intro on thursday, july 13th and he had stopped eating the jello by saturday the 15th. He wouldn't eat the soup and can't say that I blame him its not very good, besides he had a bad experience once with some chicken noodle soup, my mom fed him a heaping bowl not thinking that the noodles had eggs in them and he got sick and threw up everywhere. Of course everyone got the READ THE FREAKING LABELS lecture. I mix his juice with 1/2 broth every so often and he doesn't notice it.

He has been eating the meatballs until this weekend. So he has been getting some protein but one by one he's not wanting to eat the few foods that he can tolerate.

I can live through a few more weeks of this if I know it'll get better. I'm just having trouble deciding whether I should continue a food if it seems to make him itchier.
post #391 of 554
Is he OK with tomato paste? You could get the Muir Glen(??) or any organic one with no sugar or additives to make fake spaghetti with the meatballs and spaghetti squash. Squash is very well tolerated, have you tried it?

Do you know how to make Puerto Rican pasteles? It's made with bananas and they put raisins and meat in it and cook it for a long time wrapped in banana leaves/wax paper. That's another way to hide the meat.

Don't be afraid of enzymes, they are the safest thing you can do. Besides the die-off they have no side effects. Enzymes have been widely used for various ailments. I'm sure you read the sticky and what enzymestuff.com has to say. I know my daughter would break out all over if I didn't give her enzymes at MIL's. She can also tolerate oatmeal now.
post #392 of 554
AHEM.

<-------------- Ok Who Did This???

I realize I've been posting a lot about poop lately!!
post #393 of 554
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Originally Posted by EBG
Is he OK with tomato paste? You could get the Muir Glen(??) or any organic one with no sugar or additives to make fake spaghetti with the meatballs and spaghetti squash. Squash is very well tolerated, have you tried it?
I haven't tried anything involving tomotoes yet, he was sensitive to them before and I wanted to give him time to heal a little before trying them. We haven't tried squash but zuchinni is on my list this week. Actually in the morning.

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Originally Posted by EBG
Don't be afraid of enzymes, they are the safest thing you can do. Besides the die-off they have no side effects. Enzymes have been widely used for various ailments. I'm sure you read the sticky and what enzymestuff.com has to say. I know my daughter would break out all over if I didn't give her enzymes at MIL's. She can also tolerate oatmeal now.
I finally found some legal yogurt to use as starter so hopefully he doesn't react to it. If he does I found a local source of goat milk to try next. I'm going to get the yogurt started first and then the enzymes.

Also, one thing I forgot about is he is ok with onions and garlic. I have added those to the meatballs.

I'd like the recipe for the pasteles.

Thanks
post #394 of 554
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Originally Posted by JaneS
AHEM.

<-------------- Ok Who Did This???

I realize I've been posting a lot about poop lately!!
May I direct everyone to page # 14, Post #280??????

post #395 of 554
Hello, new here, hoping to get some ideas for healing my own gut. Before I intro more, may I ask about the enzymes taken between meals? What are they and where are they sold? Sorry if this is semi-redundant to other posts on here, I just saw the one post and it sounds like it might help me.
Anyhow, I recently went to a gut doc who ordered a bunch of lab tests; I spoke with the nurse yesterday and she said all results are normal except one of the three indicators of celiac is slightly elevated. I really don't think what I have is celiac. However, I am desperate for a diagnosis and even moreso for something, ANYTHING, that will help me. As it stands now, I might have IBD, or IBS, or celiac. Or none of these. : Waiting for the doc to call with his official take on my results.
post #396 of 554
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Originally Posted by sierratahoe
Hello, new here, hoping to get some ideas for healing my own gut. Before I intro more, may I ask about the enzymes taken between meals? What are they and where are they sold? Sorry if this is semi-redundant to other posts on here, I just saw the one post and it sounds like it might help me.
Enzymes between meals are mainly for clearing up yeast overgrowth (they may have other uses, too, which I can't think of right at the moment). Common ones used are Candex and Candidase, among others. You can find them at most HFS's or online (cheaper).
post #397 of 554
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Originally Posted by Logansmom

I can live through a few more weeks of this if I know it'll get better. I'm just having trouble deciding whether I should continue a food if it seems to make him itchier.
IMO, if he's not digesting a food, he shouldn't be getting it because it's not doing him any good and might actually be doing more damage to his gut. As far as die-off/healing symptoms go, I was told that symptoms are okay as long as they don't make your child too uncomfortable. So if you/he are willing to deal with the itching for a bit, then it's okay to keep giving him the food. But if you think it's too much, or it causes behaviors that you don't want to deal with, don't give that food. Hopefully that makes sense...
post #398 of 554
I was just looking at and reading through some of the sticky info. This intrigued me in that it describes me:
12. White specs in stools:
1. Rice (may cannot even digest rice)
2. They've been eating paper
3. or, something else they can't break down. For my daughter this would include any kind of bean, nut, seed, grain, vegetable, popcorn, etc. She initially was ok with rice but later on (about 10 mos.) stopped being able to digest pretty much anything. Eventually found white little seeds from the Mesa Sunrise Waffles.

However, there was no explanation of what the daughter's diagnosis is. Can someone clue me in? Pretty please ?
post #399 of 554
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Originally Posted by caedmyn
IMO, if he's not digesting a food, he shouldn't be getting it because it's not doing him any good and might actually be doing more damage to his gut. As far as die-off/healing symptoms go, I was told that symptoms are okay as long as they don't make your child too uncomfortable. So if you/he are willing to deal with the itching for a bit, then it's okay to keep giving him the food. But if you think it's too much, or it causes behaviors that you don't want to deal with, don't give that food. Hopefully that makes sense...
Yes that makes perfect sense.

When I say really itchy I mean to the point of bleeding and sores that last for days because he won't stop scratching to let them heal. It really is horrible. Horrible that he has to go through it and equally horrible for us to watch. It is totally not worth him eating the food even if he loves it

He has had 5 BM's today(not runny, formed) and they all had bits of carrot in them. He hasn't had any carrots since sunday morning and those were pureed in some meatballs. Should he still be pooping carrots after that long?
post #400 of 554
It seems like I always have many question!!

As I was reading the last few posts I wonder If Nolan's flair up of eczema is due to die off? I Started the yogurt about 2 weeks ago but the first 2 batches were not that great (yogurt got too hot) and finally this weeks yogurt is good. I also started the Candex about 4 days ago. Die-off? I was considering doing the intro diet for a day and sorta starting again.

should I consider taking enzymes with meals to help digest food as well as the Candex I am taking at the beginning and end of the day?

Logansmom- have you checked out the pecan bread yahoo group? A lot of people there are going through similar SCD issues with their children.

EBG-do you think you and your husband pass the yeast infection back and forth? What about it living on your sheets? This would be a HUGE pain but what about washing your sheets everyday? YOu could use GSE, I have heard it kills the yeast in the laundry. Have you been away from this area for any length of time, does it get better/worse? Is it possible that there is some allergen that exasterbates your symptoms? Just brainstorming...
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