Ezzo v. Dobson. Who is scarier? - Page 5

[bellymama]

Originally Posted by georgia

Pearl Link

oh.my.god.
wtf? the baby will associate pain with the word "no"? i have decided that these people are the scariest.: i kind of feel sick.

[the_lissa]

Originally Posted by elmh23

Scariest: Pearls
Second Scariest: Dobson
Third Scariest: Ezzo

Same for me.

[elizawill]

[QUOTE=CaraboosMama;5552254 Ezzo would be quickly rejected by most reasonable people. [/QUOTE]

i think ezzo is widely accepted. not only does he have growing kids god's way, he also authors babywise...toddlerwise, etc. my husband and i took the "bible study" GKGW and we were appalled!! i had heard of it, but went into it not really knowing anything about it. we took the class because my husband was on staff at the church and we had too. i wasn't just offended by the spanking and physical descipline advocated, but they make you feel like a bad parent if you let teenagers call you by your first name, and a billion other crazy things. i didn't even know what to say about these dated videos. the ezzos have no humor and NO personality....and they don't teach anything about having a loving relationship with your children.....just how to control them through abuse. btw-we left that church after a year because it was AWFUL!

[elizawill]

Originally Posted by DebraBaker

For me, "Train," has subtle negative connotations.

It could just be me.

You train dogs.

You train some plants to grow, "Here." and nowhere else.

Train has no notion of thinking for one's self.

Dedicate is more something that's addressing the parent's heart. If the one reading the verse (we're presuming a parent,) is having their own heart and perspective addressed (please do this rather than force that other person to do this,) it's more gentle, and more fair because it's a bit like the kid arguing that Jimmy over there doesn't (fill in the blank,) and the mother says, "I'm talking to you, not Jimmy." It's like the verse that says, "Children obey your parents." It doesn't say, "parents force your children to obey you," but rather says, "Parents do not provoke your children." Everyone gets instruction, but not to force the other party.

Dedicate a child in the way he should go, has a sense of gentle commitment.

Train has visions of whips and chairs.

I disagree. I think sickos like ezzo and pearl have give a negative assocoation to the word "train". just like "time-out" is a bad word now, but it just means a break....certainly not humiliation. to be trained in something shouldn't bring a visual to mind of a child being hurt, yk? i have been trained in my field.

[leelee2]

Nothing gets my blood pressure to rise more than reading all about these horrible people. It makes me want to start a movement or something in the churches. I wonder what churches indorse these people and which don't? I'm a Christian but I haven't been able to find a church I'm comfortable with.
My vote would be a tie between the two I guess. They're both really horrible and I don't see how people can belileve this ****!: : :