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post #1 of 11
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I have been posting in this forum about my SIL in India who was pg with her first child. She wanted a vag birth but most of the middle/upper class women chose or end up getting csections. She had her baby three days ago! By vag birth!

When I got the call from FIL that her water broke and she was in the hospital and they were about to give her "something to speed up her labor and baby should be born in 4-5 hours" I immediately got the cell number of MIL who I knew was with her. I hope their bill isn't too high! I told her to not let them give my poor SIL pit as long as she was having good cx. They had already given her some gel on her cervix. Her water had not been broken that long, I don't think the gel was even necessary but whatever. Too late now. I also told MIL to help SIL move around and not keep her in the bed. So they went against orders and she moved around a lot.

Then she was having some difficult cx and she decided to get an epidural, which is a very new thing in that hospital. It took three tries to get it in her and the baby was born just an hour after it was placed. She was moved into a birthing room. It was a gyn bed with the stirrups and she asked for the back to be put up because it was flat at that time. She and MIL and her dh repeatedly asked for the bed to be put up so she could sit up because that's how she felt comfortable and they tried to figure out how to do it themselves but couldn't. They were blown off and the bed ended up staying flat. Then just as she was getting ready to push, MIL and dh were asked to leave the room!: MIL protested but was escorted out anyway. They could hear everything from the open doorway as they were in the hallway. My poor SIL was then made to lie flat on her back and had her feet in the stirrups and she asked for someone to hold her legs and was told she had to hold her own thighs. No one did it for her. Even though she had an epidural and her legs were not working very well. She was then ordered to start pushing hard. She pushed three times and then for the fourth push the head nurse pushed down hard on the top of her uterus and the doctor used vacuum extraction to pull the baby out. I asked SIL how long she pushed total and she said about 20 minutes, and she was not having any trouble getting him out, they just wanted to get it over as soon as possible.

Then they immediately cut baby's cord against SIL's wishes, showed the baby to her for about five seconds, and carried him out and to the nursery. She had to be stitched up because of the fast birth (forced on her). She was not allowed to see her own baby for two more hours.

She has some depression going on and it's no wonde why. She also does not appear to be bonding with the baby very much through our phone conversations and she half-joked that she wanted to send him to me to raise until he was older. She was really hoping for a girl so I know she is still accepting her boy, and people are coming over to visit all the time and she's trying to work out her nursing problems. Dh practically yelled at her dh to stop bringing his work buddies over to show off the baby because the baby was being exposed to germs (the strongest argument he could think of that would make sense to the dh). They are also pressuring her to nurse which is not helping. Thank goodness baby finally latched last night but she is having some pain to work through. They are also arguing about what to name him. It seems that my SIL is the last person who has a say in the matter.

I really wanted to be there for the birth but my own dd was not well enough to travel yet. I would have told those doctors and nurses a thing or two. I feel so bad for my SIL and her humilating birth experience. No wonder most of the women of her generation/income bracket choose to have scheduled csections. I promised her that if I'm not in the middle of nursing school I will do whatever it takes to be there for the next birth if she's able to conceive again. (She took 7 years to be blessed with her son.)

I asked her before the birth if she would consider a birth at home with a midwife. They have midwives for the rural and poor people but I don't know how well they are trained or if they have emergency equipment in case things don't go as planned. So they thought it would be safer to deliver in a hospital. One of their friends, a priest who lives in a small village, lost both his wife and child in childbirth a few years ago.
post #2 of 11
My heart goes out to her - I hope she is able to get her nursing issues resolved and that she has a quick recovery (emotional, physical, and spiritual) from the delivery.
post #3 of 11
*sigh* I am glad that she had a vaginal birth, as it sounds like the support she's getting while healing isn't the greatest...even if it's not the birth she hoped for...maybe next time (if there is one...) she could simply wait until she feels the urge to push to leave for the hospital? Then perhaps they wouldn't have time for all the "extras?" She could walk in and push him out! It may be a better experience that way!

Is she being pressured to breastfeed because of the lack of safe water to make formula with? It would certainly be a concern for me! I know that LLL is international, perhaps there's a group somewhere nearby her. It may help with the latch and pain issues to talk to somebody, and have support from numerous people who've "been there".

She's in my thoughts!
post #4 of 11
I'm so sorry. Well, at least she knows that stuff was unnecessary and wrong, right? My first birth wasn't quite as awful, but I still had PPD and trouble bonding with the baby, and a long recovery time. It took me a while to work through it, even to admit to myself how bad it was (and totally unnecessarily so.) The good news is that my next three births were fantastic and empowering. So even though her birth was not as good as it could have been, having gone through it will hopefully compel her to find a way to do things differently next time.

to her
post #5 of 11
Ugh - poor girl.
post #6 of 11
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Originally Posted by courtenay_e
*sigh* I am glad that she had a vaginal birth, as it sounds like the support she's getting while healing isn't the greatest...even if it's not the birth she hoped for...maybe next time (if there is one...) she could simply wait until she feels the urge to push to leave for the hospital? Then perhaps they wouldn't have time for all the "extras?" She could walk in and push him out! It may be a better experience that way!

Is she being pressured to breastfeed because of the lack of safe water to make formula with? It would certainly be a concern for me! I know that LLL is international, perhaps there's a group somewhere nearby her. It may help with the latch and pain issues to talk to somebody, and have support from numerous people who've "been there".

She's in my thoughts!
I had told them over and over again to wait until the last minute to leave for the hospital. Well as soon as her water broke everyone freaked out and someone called the doctor, who told them to go in right away b/c of infection risks. After they got there and had the gel on her I called on the cell and asked if there was any reason why they couldn't go home for awhile. MIL said they didn't want to lose their nice room that they had. At that point all I could do was advice and hope they listened.

She's being pressured to bf because I had emphasized to them how it's so much better for the baby and at least to bf for a few mos. And because of all of Nitara's feeding and health issues, and the family history of feeding problems in babies. So I told her that breast milk is easiest to digest for the baby. She wanted to nurse very much, but every time she was attempting it she had people asking if she had nursed yet b/c baby was not willing to do it and she was getting frustrated. So everyone was worried about the baby. Dh was really good about telling them not to worry, it's okay for a few days even if baby loses weight.

I contacted LLL of India by email but did not get a reply. I have posted about the other issues in the Breastfeeding Challenges forum. I think things are going to be okay with the bfing but no one quite knows what they are doing. MIL was not able to nurse her own babies very long for reasons out of her control. The clean water is not a concern. They are an upper middle class family and they have good water. My MIL even boils it just to make sure its as good as they claim when they deliver it.
post #7 of 11
Sounds like India is trying to keep up with the US...I read an article somewhere (Time, maybe?) about India's up and coming technologies and blah, blah, blah. It's so sad that women the world over are being abused by the medical "profession" and won't/can't fight for themselves.

I hope your SIL is able to have a good nursing relationship and quickly overcome her PPD and enjoy being a mama.
post #8 of 11
How sad, it sounds like the births most of our (US) mothers had with us.
post #9 of 11
thank you for posting her story. I've waited so long to read it nd my heart really breaks for her I hope that she can heal emotioinally from the experience and that she has a wonderful nursing relationship with her little byo. I Hope she has a Happy Babymoon overall and you are a wonderful friend and relative to her!

Namaste, Tara
post #10 of 11
Wow. I was hoping against hope your SIL would have a good birth experience. It has to be so hard for her to have people constantly watching her and her new one for this or that. I'm sending many prayers and healing vibes her way.
post #11 of 11
Poor thing!! I'm sorry she didn't get the birth experience she hoped for.

Having spent part of my life in South Asia I totally understand the family dynamics, the hovering, and the pressure put on your SIL. C-sections are common in that part of the world but more deadly than those performed in the USA. My DD was born via C-section here in the good ole USA but my elderly grandmother in Sri Lanka wouldn't believe that I survived the operation despite what my parents said. She thought they were just making it up because so many women in SL die from sections each year. It's pretty common to see stories in the papers about botched operations.

I hope your SIL is successful nursing the baby. How interesting she wanted a baby girl. That really goes against the norm in India, doesn't it?

If you don't mind me asking is she co-sleeping and baby wearing?
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