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post #21 of 36
Yes, we're Catholic, and we use NFP when we have a grave reason to avoid pregnancy.

Someone asked about withdrawal earlier? It's against Catholic teaching because semen should only be deposited in its 'intended receptacle.' Ahem. (This is starting to sound strangely like a banking transaction! ) See Genesis 38:6-10.

As for the difference between withdrawal and periodic abstinence, well, withdrawal renders the marital embrace sterile - a husband and wife should come together in an act of total self-giving. Avoiding marital relations during a woman's fertile period is permitted because there is no marital embrace to profane. Did that make sense?
post #22 of 36
Well put. I was trying to find the words to explain that. Same explaination for condoms.
post #23 of 36
Yes, exactly - the intended receptacle is not a condom. Nor is it a diaphragm. Anything that acts as a barrier (either physically or chemically) is forbidden, because it negates the total self-giving nature of the marital embrace.
post #24 of 36
since culturally this seems like such a Catholic mama thing, is there a thread for Catholic mamas on this message board? :
post #25 of 36
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Originally Posted by carmel23
since culturally this seems like such a Catholic mama thing, is there a thread for Catholic mamas on this message board? :
There used to be. I don't think its active.
post #26 of 36
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Originally Posted by adoremybabe
Is anyone using NFP for religious reasons? I'd just like to know if anyone is on the same page as I am. I have read a lot about people still using some form of artifical contraception along with charting.
We do, when we think of it. Loyal Catholics here. More often than not, we just "go with the flow." Have weird cycles and some kind of fertility issues, or did. Our first two are almost 8 years apart, not by our choice or doing! We conceived a third time but lost #3 to a ruptured ectopic in April. So, given our circumstances, we usually don't do much of anything to space or avoid... I *should* do more with NFP to help us conceive, or if nothing else than to see if I can figure out what is going on in my cycles. I just always forget to take my temp!!

JET
post #27 of 36
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Originally Posted by LydiaJW
I'm protestant, and they stopped speaking out against birth control at the beginning of the 20th century. I believe that hormonal birth control is unnacceptable based on its abortifacient property and how harmful it is to the woman's body, therefore not fostering the "your body is a temple" mentality. Barrier methods (for me) don't foster a sense of intimacy between husband and wife. There is nothing but nfp for me!
Don't know if you realize it, but your personal feelings are very much in line with why the Catholic Church teaches what it does about artificial birth control!!

JET

post #28 of 36
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Originally Posted by nfpmom
There used to be. I don't think its active.
I wish it was! I'd so love an open Catholic board here.

JET
post #29 of 36
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Originally Posted by Nitenites
Yes, we're Catholic, and we use NFP when we have a grave reason to avoid pregnancy.

Someone asked about withdrawal earlier? It's against Catholic teaching because semen should only be deposited in its 'intended receptacle.' Ahem. (This is starting to sound strangely like a banking transaction! ) See Genesis 38:6-10.

As for the difference between withdrawal and periodic abstinence, well, withdrawal renders the marital embrace sterile - a husband and wife should come together in an act of total self-giving. Avoiding marital relations during a woman's fertile period is permitted because there is no marital embrace to profane. Did that make sense?
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JET
post #30 of 36
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Originally Posted by jet1295mamajenn
We conceived a third time but lost #3 to a ruptured ectopic in April.
I'm sorry for your loss.
post #31 of 36
catholic nfp, CCL all the way. i just had baby number 4 and really want to avoid! emotionally am not ready to get pregnant anytime soon. this is such a hard time to chart. i dont know where to start. i had what seemed like a period but it could have been my body still dealing with Post pardom stuff. ??? need to call CCL and join back up.
post #32 of 36
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Carmel23 - You mentioned something earlier about taking classes with an OB vs. a teaching couple. When deciding what to do DH and I felt a bit uncomfortable about taking a class with a couple so we looked at the doctor route. We found a doctor but she charged over $70 per hour!!!!! So we found a class that was being taught in a group setting it was quite nice. Maybe there is something like that in your area.

I'd also love a Catholic NFP thread.
post #33 of 36
A friend of mine just started a crunchy Catholic mamas yahoogroup
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/crunchycathmamas/
post #34 of 36
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Originally Posted by nfpmom
A friend of mine just started a crunchy Catholic mamas yahoogroup
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/crunchycathmamas/
Very cool! I'm joining! see you there...
post #35 of 36

I convert to catholic church 2011.. As such we do strict NFP (abstinance during fertile times.

We have 2 girls and a boy

post #36 of 36
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Originally Posted by anonymousk View Post

We're Catholic NFP'ers too....although I wouldn't say that we follow all the rules. We indulge in 'phase 2 fun' (oral) but definitely no barrier methods and no hormones. After three years of charting to avoid we are finally charting to conceive.

We took the home study course through CCLI and didn't have any problems getting started - it's definitely been the best method for us and we will stick with it. It took DH some time to come around (our marriage prep courses caused him to really doubt the effectiveness - he called it 'propaganda') but after he did his own research on BC in general he realized it was the most effective method and that's when we started using it.

 

let me know what your man read on this!  i would love to get my man more on board.

 

We're christian (denominationally challenged....) and have come around to the NFP through a circuitous route.  we've had five kids in 7 years, and honestly find that the best way for us to be supported as a couple, family, and people is through the catholic model.  we spaced our 5th one through that route and would like to have a nice gap to consider having more or possibly being done and working on caring for the amazing kids we have.  

 

we didn't start on NFP b/c we thought all other forms of birth control weren't respectful of marriage and the body, but we're really coming around to that way of thinking for ourselves!  just hubby needs a little more awareness.  when it's irritating to him, he is not very supportive.  he still holds some idea that there is an 'easier' way!  

 

so NFP for religious reasons?  yes.  any other methods being used?  nope, not any more.  we used FAM to ease into NFP.  but had 2 surprises that way.  and we're pretty stuck in the NFP model, now to conquer PMS!!!

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