I don't like Brazeltons take on discipline upon further reveiw.. - Page 3

[Qtopia]

Originally Posted by boongirl

Sounds like every other human being on this planet.

What was the point of this? I didn't see any posts suggesting that Brazleton needed to be perfect.

It's obvious that you are a Brazleton fan, and that's cool. But it's *not* cool for you to trivialize the concerns that some people have with him. Like it or not, there are people who don't value his advice on some things, and there might even be parents who don't value his advice on anything, for that matter. What is so wrong with that? Haven't you been saying that we need to be understanding of different parenting attitudes? Is it so hard to understand that there might be parents out there that want something other than mainstream parenting advice and therefore aren't willing to "revere" (your word, not mine) Brazleton the way you do?

And I don't think that someone has to read every single thing an "expert" has written in order to form an opinion on some of their beliefs. Honestly, I think the only reason you said that is because you are defensive of the criticisms against Brazleton's advice. No one has criticized Brazleton as a person. PPs have read some of his advice, and have criticized that advice.

[boongirl]

Originally Posted by Qtopia

What was the point of this? I didn't see any posts suggesting that Brazleton needed to be perfect.

Originally Posted by romans_mum
I guess you didnt read the whole thread then, because I did keep reading and commented that he is alright on some points but fails on others.

My point, related to the qoute above, is that everyone has their flaws.

Originally Posted by Qtopia

It's obvious that you are a Brazleton fan, and that's cool. But it's *not* cool for you to trivialize the concerns that some people have with him. Like it or not, there are people who don't value his advice on some things, and there might even be parents who don't value his advice on anything, for that matter. What is so wrong with that? Haven't you been saying that we need to be understanding of different parenting attitudes? Is it so hard to understand that there might be parents out there that aren't looking for anything remotely resembling mainstream parenting advice and therefore aren't willing to "revere" (your word, not mine) Brazleton the way you do?

As many of us have written, the OP is criticizing Brazelton after reading barely any of his work. I am merely challenging her to read more of his work and reserve judgement for later. And, I am merely pointing out that all human beings have flaws. Some are greater than others. If she would read more of Brazelton's work and learn more about him she would understand him more, learn that he is a proponent of a lot of what is popular here at Mothering, and she would also learn how the institute named for him at Harvard University has, with Brazelton and his colleagues, revolutionized the way doctors and parents understand what is going on inside the mind of an infant.

Originally Posted by Qtopia

And I don't think that someone has to read every single thing an "expert" has written in order to form an opinion on some of their beliefs. Honestly, I think the only reason you said that is because you are defensive of the criticisms against Brazleton's advice. No one has criticized Brazleton as a person. PPs have read some of his advice, and have criticized that advice.

Of course one does not need to all of his work. But, one should read more than 7 pages before passing judgement. I am not a Brazelton groupie nor do I revere what he has written, But, I have read more than 7 pages of his work and know a bit more about him than the OP. And, my opinion of him has been seconded by other mamas who have also read more than 7 pages.

[wonderwahine]

I did read more than 7 pages, But that still doesnt mean i like him one bit........I dont care for anyone who WRITES A PARENTING BOOK not just has normal human failures, that perceives a child to be manipulative, and able to be spoilt at a certain age......regardless of how good any of his other advice is.

you can love him all you want, thats your choice, but I dont.

not to mention, we arn't talking about Dr.Sears here.......its Dr.Brazelton, which is fairly mainstream.