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post #141 of 698
Hi!

New to this thread... and happy to see some other like minded mamas. Hope every one is well!
post #142 of 698
Welcome, Ryatt and boatrat!
post #143 of 698
Ooh, can I join?

Just watched Religulous (the Bill Maher movie) today. Has anyone seen it? They've got it up for free at Atheist Nation right now. I have a hard time watching Bill Maher (he's just so rude to people, and I find myself turning away from the tv - or computer - in embarrassment... well, that, and he seems to think that all homeschoolers are religious extremists), but I still had a lot of fun watching.

I've also just discovered the huge Atheist community on Reddit. That's a good way to kill a few (or several) hours.
post #144 of 698
Thanks Tangly!!

DH & I watched it the other night, courtesy of you. Bill IS rather cynical. But I think he says a lot of things many of us are thinking already (albeit, rudely) and he does a good job of encouraging other skeptics to come out of the closet. Its another case of choosing powerful over ethical.

And two thumbs up to the whole Documentary Feature Film jag!
post #145 of 698
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Hi all, I'm so happy that I found this thread. Expat-mama, I love the Youtube video. I concur with the correlation between level of education and atheism. My husband and I are both Ph.D.-level scientists and I get so frustrated with the attacks on science and scientific education by the religious right.

I am an athesist book junky. I love to read Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins is my hero. Also, I recently read the book Freethinkers: a History of American Secularism and I highly recommend it.


My husband and I are going to raise our son to be a freethinker. We live in the Research Triangle of North Carolina, so we are in an intellectual oasis in the middle of the bible belt. I grew up in rural southeast Georgia and I dealt first-hand with religious discrimination since my father was an agnostic and I did not attend church. Hopefully my son will not have the same type of experience.

Can we be friends? We (me, my husband, baby girl and hopefully another babe by then) are looking to move to the Triangle by April-May of 2010. We live in South Louisiana now, and oooo, boy, are we in the minority.

I'm in the process of reading Freethinkers now. We have a bunch of Dawkins also, but some of the science is a bit much for me in the toddler-raising state.

:P
post #146 of 698
Hi All,

I'm currently in Charleston, South Carolina and now understand "The Bible Belt"; I think South Carolina is close to the buckle! I grew up in the Pacific Northwest and religion was such a non-issue even to people who believed in god that I never really thought about how religion for some is such an important daily part of life. I had never been told to "have a blessed day" until I moved here and now I am probably offered that 2-5 times per week. I definitely feel like a true outsider in regards to religion here in the south especially since I am fairly anti-religion to boot and have no interest in letting my 6 year old explore Christianity and tend to be quite pragmatic about religion/spirituality/life/death etc.

Anyway nice to find this thread. I look forward to reading some of the suggestions in the previous threads. The last book I read of this topic was God is not Great and really enjoyed most of it.
post #147 of 698
Just saying hi. I guess the closest label for me is agnostic. The only thing that I seem to really believe in is reincarnation. Every so often I think there's something more...the universe, God, whatever you want to call it. Most of the time I think it's just a way to not take responsibility for yourself & your life.

Family went to church when I was a kid, extremely liberal by the standards of most U.S. churches, though, I think....United Church of Canada. Despite the fact I was the only girl in my Brownie troop to get 2 levels of the Religion in Life badge (or maybe because of it?) I was never a believer. As I got older, it annoyed me more & more. So much, that despite my love of singing, I would stop singing phrases I didn't believe & eventually whole songs. I remember being 9 or 10 & having my mom mad at me because I wasn't singing.

I think the final straw for me was one day in Sunday school. We were asked what 3 things we would save if our house were on fire. I picked my pets & the teacher basically told me I was an idiot, I was supposed to be picking things & animals didn't count. Looking back, I don't think she was trying to say things were more important than my pets (although who knows), but that's the way I took it as a kid and it completely shredded any chance of me ever being a Christian.

DS1 seems to be an atheist. Not entirely sure how that happened. He's learned not tell Grandma she's full of it when she talks about God, though. He even sat through her reading a book about the Christian Christmas story. Then we had a little chat about it after.

H is...confused. Worse than I am, he doesn't appear to have anything he believes in but hasn't really ruled anything out, either.
post #148 of 698
Another new one here...

I've never called myself anything but an atheist. There was no religion in my upbringing, really, other than weddings in churches (not mine!) and cousins being baptized. But my immediate family never went to church or talked about religion much. When I was in high school I had pretty clear ideas about how I viewed the world, so I started reading about religion to see if there was anything out there that I fit into. I didn't really find anything. I was (and still am) drawn to certain aspects of Buddhism, but not enough for that to be what I call myself.

I consider myself an atheist for the simple fact that I don't believe any divine being exists. I am a science teacher and I find great comfort in the natural order of things. One challenge I'm running into this year is teaching about the universe and the geologic time scale to a few middle school students who are very religious. It's actually gone much more smoothly than I expected, and religion shouldn't even come up in class anyway, but sometimes there is still that tension.

I live in a very open minded community, so there are no issues at all with varying views of the world in my personal life. Many of my friends have turned away from the religion they were raised with.

I just realized I should have gone to bed long ago. So I'll probably be checking in with this tribe to see what you all talk about here.
post #149 of 698
Anyone watching Obama's speech? "We are a nation of christians and muslims, jews and hindus... and nonbelievers"

I seriously started crying. I'm so glad that he acknowledged that not everyone believes. I never expected that.
post #150 of 698
I'm watching and did notice the "nonbelievers" - but jeeeez...anyone else offended by the extreme NON-separation of church and state??? That first sermon was unbelievable...
post #151 of 698
Yep, I found Rev. Warren's invocation to be a bit much.
post #152 of 698
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I'm watching and did notice the "nonbelievers" - but jeeeez...anyone else offended by the extreme NON-separation of church and state??? That first sermon was unbelievable...
Yes, I agree, I was thinking to myself why do we have to bring god into everything, sigh. But, those were from Reverends, so I'm not surprised. I'm so happy to see President Obama show that he understands that there are nonbelievers too though.

What would an atheist president swear on? I think I'd swear on a copy of the constitution. like that would ever happen anyway, sigh.
post #153 of 698
I just tuned out the god talk, and was stoked to hear that someone is thinking about us "non-believers." : Heaven forbid the use of the a-words, but... I'll take what I can get!
post #154 of 698
Can I join? I just split from the LDS church after converting 8 years ago.
post #155 of 698
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Can I join? I just split from the LDS church after converting 8 years ago.
Sure! There have been a few ex-mo tribes bouncing about MDC, though it seems I can never keep track of them... maybe we need to start a new one?

Though the atheist/agnostic tribe is a comfy place to be, as well...
post #156 of 698
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Sure! There have been a few ex-mo tribes bouncing about MDC, though it seems I can never keep track of them... maybe we need to start a new one?

Though the atheist/agnostic tribe is a comfy place to be, as well...
Hmmm...that would be a nice tribe to be a part of....

ETA: I don't want religion in my life. But I want spirituality, kwim? What does everybody do to have that? For example, instead of praying before meals now we just take a second to feel gratitude for our food.
post #157 of 698
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Anyone watching Obama's speech? "We are a nation of christians and muslims, jews and hindus... and nonbelievers"

I seriously started crying. I'm so glad that he acknowledged that not everyone believes. I never expected that.
YES! Yay "NON-BELIEVERS"- DH and I cheered and were so surprised to hear that! Great great great.
post #158 of 698
Hello Atheists and Agnostics!

A while ago we were talking about books either to guide us in raising our children as free-thinkers and compassionate, moral and respectful atheists/agnostics or for the kids themselves. I found a few books for kids recently while browsing some humanist websites. Here they are and they look awesome, can't wait to get them. I think they are for older kids (pre-teen or teen), but I think reading them to younger kids could introduce some concepts and ideas that would be beneficial if you guide them along.

What About Gods?

Humanism, What's That? A Book for Curious Kids


Maybe Right, Maybe Wrong: A Guide for Young Thinkers


Maybe Yes, Maybe No: A Guide for Young Skeptics



If anyone has read these books let me know how you liked them. Reading the descriptions and reviews on Amazons has made me really excited to read them. They're on my wish list for now.
post #159 of 698
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YES! Yay "NON-BELIEVERS"- DH and I cheered and were so surprised to hear that! Great great great.
yup!

as a friend of mine said during the speech, "well, he was raised by an atheist, and his dad had atheist tendencies towards the end of his life"
post #160 of 698
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YES! Yay "NON-BELIEVERS"- DH and I cheered and were so surprised to hear that! Great great great.
I was watching the live stream on MSNBC's site, and as soon as I heard those words, I clapped and squeaked and smiled a huge, goofy grin. I'm sure I was quite the picture. Luckily, no one was around.
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