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[coloradoalice]

Originally Posted by ApplePieBaby

I was hoping I could join you all
While I have given birth vaginally, my last baby was a c-section, and it's looking like any more we decide to have will be also. And I really want one more.

I've read through all the posts, and basically I'm just looking for support, and not flames for chosing a repeat section over a VBAC.

My youngest, Elora, was born by emergency c-section at 25 weeks because she was transverse & I had pre-e. They did a classical incision on my uterus to get her out, since she was up so high, and eveything I've read says that VBACs are risky with this kind of incision, on the upper half of the uterus.

After spending almost 9 weeks in the NICU at her bedside, watching her grow & get healthy and hear the talk of bringing her home, Elora got a blood infection and it quickly overtook her little body & she passed away.

I just want a baby I can bring home. I am not willing to risk a rupture. I just want to hold and nurse one more baby.

I am scared to death of another c-section. But I am even more afraid of not having any more children.

I am so sorry to hear Elora passed away. I saw one of your first posts after she was born on the c-section support thread in B&B.

~ Elora

[mightymoo]

Originally Posted by ApplePieBaby

I've read through all the posts, and basically I'm just looking for support, and not flames for chosing a repeat section over a VBAC.

I'm so sorry to hear about your little one. Of course you are welcome! VBAC with a classical incision is not recommended anyway.

Originally Posted by niki_73

It is hard belonging to mdc and having a c/s I always feel like i have to defend my decisions, it is nice to see this tribe where i know i won't have too. It also makes me sad when others put down their doctors and say c/s are unnecessary, while i do believe alot are unnecessary i truly believe i am making the right decision for myself and baby.

Hi Niki, Welcome! It is hard being here, what I try to keep in mind is that the moms here are just trying to fight against a system that seems to want to make birth surgical. Honestly, I feel that as long as the mother went into things informed, understood the risks of both paths and was allowed to decide for herself, that decision is the right one for her and her family. I just hate to see uninformed moms pressured into something that isn't right for them.

The attempting a VBAC experience was such a nerve wracking one for me. I felt I knew VBAC was the 'right' choice from a natural birth perspective, but I had done everything 'right' from that perspective the first time and a c-section was still necessary, so I didn't have the faith that I had before. And I knew whatever I decided I would blame myself for any bad outcome. Deciding to plan the c-section at the end (at 42 weeks with no labor) was so hard for me, I couldn't even talk to my midwife, I had my husband call because I would have just been blubbering.

I don't know where I'm going with this except to say welcome and yes its hard, but this thread is about support, not questioning each other on our decisions.

[ApplePieBaby]

Thank you, Alice & MightyMoo

[Silvercrest79]

Originally Posted by ApplePieBaby

I was hoping I could join you all
While I have given birth vaginally, my last baby was a c-section, and it's looking like any more we decide to have will be also. And I really want one more.

I've read through all the posts, and basically I'm just looking for support, and not flames for chosing a repeat section over a VBAC.

My youngest, Elora, was born by emergency c-section at 25 weeks because she was transverse & I had pre-e. They did a classical incision on my uterus to get her out, since she was up so high, and eveything I've read says that VBACs are risky with this kind of incision, on the upper half of the uterus.

After spending almost 9 weeks in the NICU at her bedside, watching her grow & get healthy and hear the talk of bringing her home, Elora got a blood infection and it quickly overtook her little body & she passed away.

I just want a baby I can bring home. I am not willing to risk a rupture. I just want to hold and nurse one more baby.

I am scared to death of another c-section. But I am even more afraid of not having any more children.

I'm so sorry for your losses. Welcome to the thread. In your shoes I would be doing the same thing. No flaming is allowed on this thread because we are all here as we have no other choice in birthing.

[coloradoalice]

Bumping due to inquires in B&B!

[coloradoalice]

Bump again, sorry!

[schwieb]

Coming back to update. My baby now "half-baked" and I have switched to a different OB. But now I have developed PIH and it looks like if this gets worse, I will have no choice but to have a ERCS. I was hoping for a VBAC< but those dreams may be dashed.

[jks06457]

such a great thread

i am having all of mine via belly birth (heard that name on a post somewhere and liked it)

first-convergent pelvis/failure to decend after great labor/induction
second-elective, but regretted it until i read my records
third-elective due to finally seeing my records and finding out that my body does come with limits!

i was hoping to VBAC with my 3rd, but once i found out what convergent pelvis was and the narrow pelvis that are in my family, we opted for another c. my ob is wonderful about scheduling-she is letting me go until only 2 days before my due date!!!!! i told here that i didn't want to go before 39w and she is cool with that, she understands my reasoning. she is also helping me plan a great repeat-hopefully. we are putting together all that we didn't like previously and learning from it. this will also me my last, as i elected to have a tubal ligation done. i have a horrible past with birth control and dh and i are super fertile. i am sooooooooooo done at 3.

JUST BECAUSE YOUR CHILD CAME FROM YOUR BELLY DOESN'T MAKE YOU ANY LESS OF A MOTHER!!!

[roslyn]

I like the phrase 'belly birth' too. I do think there's a general negative attitude towards c-sections around here. I understand where it comes from, but some of us simply don't have a choice in the matter.

I miscarried my first child in 2002 due to very large fibroids. They weren't large before I got pregnant. I didn't know I had them. But the hormones made them grow like crazy and by the time I lost my child I had one that was the size of a grapefruit and five others that weren't much smaller. I had them removed later that year, and the surgeon told me a VBAM was out of the question. I would have to have a cs.

I had my first child in April 2004. Having come from a family of natural birthers it was a bit of a let down to be the first with a surgical birth. My doctor was fabulous and the hospital couldn't have been more accomodating, but still I wondered if a vaginal birth wasn't possible.

After doing some research I am now comfortable that my only option this time is another belly birth and I'm at peace with that. I do get tired of people asking if I'm 'too posh to push' or too ignorant to know about VBAC options. I know they mean well, but it is a bit wearing.

[jks06457]

i totally back you up mama!!! i studied the VBAC options and will be the first to help inform someone if it was a situation that is non repeating (like previous uterine surg, pelvic issues-those don't go away) i only had one person ask me if i was the too posh to push type and i pleasently told them that i pushed for an hour with my first. a VBAC is just not in the plan for us. oh, well. we can't all be perfect.

[tracymom]

Just saw the tribe; I'm farther out from both my c/s ('96 and '99) and I've worked through a lot of the grieving for the loss of the natural births I had wanted, but I wanted to post to show my support.

(((hugs))) to the mamas who have had losses. My heart goes out to you. I understand more now why my OB was white as a sheet when she came in after DS2's birth to tell me about the large dehiscence I had a few inches away from his arm. Had he stretched out the arm, he might very well have put it through.

[intorainbowz]

What is a dehiscence?


I'm at peace with my past c/s and with my future ones. I am glad that this was not a decision forced on me by an OB, or because my baby was breech. As I have posted before, I'm worried about avoiding the NICU next time, not a c/s. Since the fact I've now had 2 uterine surgeries does not change..... After the resection of the rather large uterine septum, the RE told me it was 50/50 that I would be able to labor. He said I would either labor and push, or fail to progress and have a c/s. My OB thinks that the septum might have been part of the reason that there were complications, and she gave me 50/50 odds of it happening again. (Gotta love those super odds.)

If you have PIH.... I think that makes it a medically necessary c/s. Not that it matters to me why anyone has a c/s.

[Silvercrest79]

A dehiscence is an opening in a scar. For example mine with my middle daughter was several inches wide, completely open, and had been there for a while as I had been experiencing pain for two months before I went into labor.

I felt the same pain after being in labor for 19 hours with my last daughter and the rupture happened about 5 hours after the pain started. Some people don't have any warning and don't feel any pain when they rupture. I felt mine it is a good thing they were already in the proccess of knocking me out.

[momz3]

Originally Posted by Silvercrest79

A dehiscence is an opening in a scar. For example mine with my middle daughter was several inches wide, completely open, and had been there for a while as I had been experiencing pain for two months before I went into labor.

I felt the same pain after being in labor for 19 hours with my last daughter and the rupture happened about 5 hours after the pain started. Some people don't have any warning and don't feel any pain when they rupture. I felt mine it is a good thing they were already in the proccess of knocking me out.

. I just lost my baby girl @ 39 weeks due to uterine rupture.

Shantell-Csection mommy

[Silvercrest79]

Oh I'm SO sorry!

If you can/don't mind/ready to could you share your story on here? I think it is important for people to read that it really does exist and it happens differently with every person.

Was this a VBA2C or had you had a prior vag delivery? If you don't want to post feel free to PM me.

[Peppermint]

I had a "window" with my last birth and my OB at the time said I should never have another child, my new OB said they actually see them in 10-15 % of repeat c-sections (and the high risk specialist he sent me to agreed), they both said this issue was completely seperate from ruptures which harm the mom and baby, as those aren't along the scar line. They told me that so long as I don't start contracting, my risks of any issues are very low. So- I am pregnant again.

I did feel the "window" happen. I felt the first tearing of it a month before I had my son, and the second time I felt it was 2 days before his birth. Both were extremely painful, and I told my old OB about the first one, and she blew it off as "round ligament pain". So- I never knew what it was until later. This time I know and if I feel that again, I will go immediately to the hospital. The other thing is that I always had lots of strong Braxton Hicks starting around 16 weeks, so- this time I am taking magnesium supplements in hopes to avoid that, and in turn avoid another window.

My point to this is - how does my plan sound to the mamas who ahve been through a rupture? The new Doctors seem so confident they don't even classify me as "high risk", they are just taking the precautions mentioned above, and we have an agreement to schedule a repeat between 38-39 weeks, earlier if the contractions aren't held off by the magnesium.

Enormous to the mamas who lost babies to UR, and thank you for sharing your story. Just last night I laid there thinking about my crunchy IRL friends and the mamas here, and how I am sure many think I should VBAC, I start to doubt my plan, but- you make it clear, VBAC is simply not an option given my previous window.

[Peppermint]

Shantell and Alison, Just re-read your stories, and want to and say thank you again for being willing to share them, I need to hear them.

[jks06457]

the window thing makes you wonder if it is due to poor surgical repair. i know that some obs close with single sutures-as mine said "why any one would do that is beyond me, it's like parachuting with out insurance". she closes like a plastic surgeon-doubleeverything. just read http://www.birthrires.org/oliverBS.html-can't wait to ask my ob about this.

shantell-i am deeply sorry about your loss. I guess God needed another angel.

[Peppermint]

I asked my OB during my last pregnancy (pre-window) how she felt about single vs. double and she gave the same answer I have heard many OBs say, "the evidence is not strong either way, I do what is best in each case". Of course, she told me after my surgery that she did close with a double and will always use that from now on, as my OB from my previous birth had used single and she was thinking that was why I had the window. My new OB says that " it all depends on the case, but- surely I will use double on *you*".

I wish they would all get their acts together on this one, I think double seems like an obvious better, but- what the heck do I know?

[momz3]

thanks everyone. My reason for c sections are an odd shaped pelvis...did go through 23 hrs of labor and that was pretty much the last resort.

Here is my story. I really don't like reposting what happened so I just dug it out of the archives. Regards fetal death **Not meant to scare anyone**Read at your own discretion.

http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=456250

We are also ttc #4. I will be high risk and have to see a maternal fetal specialist and have an early delivery. I no longer see the physician who I trusted with my care and the care of my daughter.