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post #161 of 307
Fellow bottle nurturers:

thank you for being here. I won't go into everything i've been thinking because many of you have put it so well in previous posts. it just seems that everything i had planned about birth and mothering was falling apart. tried going natural, she was situated wrong and i got an epidural (grieving about that). from the stress and exhaustion we had a hard time starting off and so then breastfeeding got screwed up. i still try to get her to latch on, but its useless. she loves the bottle. when i finally read somewhere that nursing is not just at the breast... its holding, gazing, loving, etc, i was overjoyed. and we enjoy many other AP things such as babywearing and sleep sharing.

i'm just happy to know that i'm not alone and that perhaps i have found a tribe of my own
post #162 of 307
I've got my story up thread but I wanted to comment on the feelings about the bfing forums. Once I stopped trying to latch and went exclusively to pumping, I stopped reading all of the information about trying to correct bf problems. Once I stopped pumping, I stopped reading bf forums completely. I didn't start looking at them again until four months ago when my second son was born and was a successful nurser. And when I did go back it was hard, and that was three YEARS after the fact.

I think it's absolutely true that some lactivists need to be show more kindness but you do not have to be the one to teach them that, not at the expense of your own mental health. In a year or two when you've processed things, then you can go back to those forums and offer input based on your experience. In the beginning though, it's just too raw and hard.

As far as the milk bank question, I think even if you qualify they still charge you and it is very expensive, like $3/oz or something.
post #163 of 307
I think that this is a great forum. All of my mommy friends breastfeed and I just feel lonely and left out sometimes. It is tough. My dd was born @ 28 weeks. I have to have an emergency c-section because of severe preeclampsia. She was in the NICU for 9 weeks. During that time I pumped and brought the milk in to the NICU. When she was about 35 weeks gestational age I started trying to breastfeed her. It went okay but because she was so small she still had to have bottles w/22 cal formula as a supplement. I had a hard time keeping my milk supply up since she wasn't with me.

Right before she came home I got on the Depo shot. Well within about 3 weeks of getting on the shot my milk supply dried up. I tried everything, I drank tons of water, ate loads of oatmeal, drank Mothers Milk tea and took concentrated Fenugreek like crazy...but my milk still dried up. So I pumped/breastfed my dd for a total of 3 months. I am glad at least that she got the initial milk but I really miss the bonding aspect that comes with breastfeeding. It is tough, I still have days when I feel sad that I am not breastfeeding. It is hard being judged and having people ask me why I am not breastfeeding and then I have to explain the whole story to them.

I feel like there is so much support and help with breastfeeding and not enough with bottle/formula feeding. It hurts my feelings when people say that you can't truly be AP without breastfeeding. I don't think that is true at all. I CD, co-sleep, and wear my dd and we spend lots of time cuddling, reading books, talking, watching baby einstein, having tummy time, etc. I think that there are lots of ways to bond.
post #164 of 307
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Originally Posted by Rivka5
We all hit a stopping place, you know? And it's so easy for someone else to say "Well, if you'd just continued on, EVENTUALLY it would've worked."

On one forum I read, there's a mom who had similar issues to mine - poor suck, poor weight gain, reflux, mastitis. She eventually did make breastfeeding work, but only after her baby had been hospitalized *twice* for failure to thrive. I just wouldn't have gone that far. My stopping place was "before the baby winds up in the hospital." Does that mean I didn't try hard enough? This woman is pretty militant, so she'd probably say yes. But I know I made the best decision for my baby.
I had the same experience, I met moms who had "succeeded", but their childdren had been hospitalized more than once. My Bradley teacher even told me that if I persevered, I would succeed, but to expect dehydration and the need for medical intervention. She was trying to encourage me, but I heard it as formula is a healthier option for my baby. I think breast is almost always best, but is it worth dangerous helath problems? It is kind of like a math problem, long term health benefits + short term health crisis=? There is no answer to that question.
post #165 of 307
My daughter and I were also unable to have a breastfeeding relationship. I'm still entirely uncertain the exact cause, as she doesn't have any food allergies, but she would scream and cry inconsolably at the breast. The closest thing I can figure, she disliked the way I had to hold her to breastfeed (she's EXTREMELY picky about everything, including how exactly you hold her, high need baby n all). I tried repeatedly, tried pumping but apparently I'm a "bad pumper" and never experienced any kind of let down. I tried for 3 months, figuring she would be more okay with it as she got older, and still no joy. I beat myself up for a long time over it, reading far too many bf'ing mamas trials and overcoming of breastfeeding obstacles, and felt as though I'd not tried hard enough, even though I was back to working full time when she was just 1 month old (-_- sigh), and it took me an hour of pumping to get just 2 ounces, or sometimes just an ounce. I had a consultant look me over, check out my hold, my posture, her latch, everything. Nothing lept out as being wrong, but for some reason, it just wouldn't work between us. I felt like such a failure, and worse, felt like my own baby had turned on me and my plans for natural parenting.

I usually don't explain why I don't breastfeed, or even mention that I don't, because of the "breastfeed, no excuses" attitude I've seen expressed in certain circles. If they could rain fire and brimstone down on my head for "denying" my Pook breastmilk, they probably would, and frankly I think any new mother, especially a new mother of a high energy, high need child who needs constant attention if she is not asleep (and HATES SLINGS *cry*) has enough to deal with without drawing down the scorn of people who think their feeding choices for their children somehow make them more righteous than others. Sure, there's a stereotype of formula feeding mothers who just didn't care, didn't know, didn't try - there's also a stereotype of the militant breastfeeding mother who thinks she's better than everyone else and would happily slap you in the face with one of her breasts if it would further the cause of breastfeeding - and I don't think it's fair to employ EITHER stereotype when you're dealing with people you don't know and don't know their circumstances.

If I ever have another baby, you bet I'm going to give breastfeeding a good old college try once again. Just because I didn't develop a breastfeeding relationship with this baby does not mean I can't try with the next.
post #166 of 307
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rivka5
We all hit a stopping place, you know? And it's so easy for someone else to say "Well, if you'd just continued on, EVENTUALLY it would've worked."
I meant to add this into my post also...I've heard this so often too. Just keep going, just keep going, it'll happen. When months pass and it refuses to "click", and everytime you whip out a boob to try again, you sob because you can't face the screams and cries of failure that you know are coming, you hit a brick wall. What do you pick, your sanity and a bottle, or a long haul through who knows how long of misery, guilt, and exhaustion? This is not to say that one should give up at the first sign of trouble, but everyone has their breaking point, and it's no one's place but one's own to judge the validity of that breaking point.
post #167 of 307
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neoma
I'm still entirely uncertain the exact cause, as she doesn't have any food allergies, but she would scream and cry inconsolably at the breast. The closest thing I can figure, she disliked the way I had to hold her to breastfeed (she's EXTREMELY picky about everything, including how exactly you hold her, high need baby n all).
How old is your baby now? It sounds like your may have had 3 possible problems.

1) She's got acid reflux
2) She's got SID/DSI issues (check out the Special Needs forum)
3) She threw something out of whack during birth and needs to see a chiro. Was her birth unusual? Extremely short? Prolonged pushing stage? Traumatic in some way? This is an issue for a lot of babies.

Just giving you ideas to help your dd now and possible things to look for with your next child
post #168 of 307
ITA about the stopping point. I had already driven myself into major PPD, how much farther could I go? I had to stop trying or I was going to end up being completely non-functioning.
post #169 of 307
Anyone know if Mothering has ever done an article about "us"?

I wrote them this letter about a month ago, but they didn't respond:

"Dear Mothering,

I am wondering if Mothering has ever done an article about mothers who were not able to breastfeed? I ask because I enjoy many of the articles in your magazine, but I often feel very alienated by the overall tone of Mothering.

Despite what seemed like an army of lactation consultants, La Leche League, and a specialist pediatrician, I was not able to breastfeed my son. Before my son was born, I saw breastfeeding as the only option. I read books and attended breastfeeding classes. I came away with the smug attitude that anyone, barring major medical problems, could breastfeed if they put in the work and educated themselves. When I accepted that I would not be able to breastfeed, I felt like I was accepting that I was a failure. I was truly ready to throw in the towel on any form of natural parenting because I really felt like I had been lied to. Over time I met other mothers, more than I ever expected, who were committed to breastfeeding and who could not breastfeed.

I understand that Mothering wants to encourage breastfeeding. But I really do believe there are lots of mothers like myself who would welcome an article about mothers who could not breastfeed. As I said, I often feel that the tone of Mothering is that breastfeeding is the ONLY way to mother. While I agree that it is the best in almost all cases, some moms cannot. In addition to moms like me, adoptive mothers would also welcome an article on raising a child who is not breastfeed.

Thank you,"
post #170 of 307

my experience with not-breastfeeding

i can't begin to explain how happy i am to have found other mothers who could not breastfeed. it seems like ever since the day i went into labor, my life's intent has been to ... let's say ... humble me.

i am studying to be a midwife so of course i planned a home birth. and of course i planned to breastfeed. well, after 62 hours of hard labor, with contractions never more than five minutes apart for 45 hours of that, i was only dilated to a 7, and i was nearly delirious. so off to the hospital i went for the awful experience i could probably have expected and yet was still surprised about. i gave birth within an hour of arriving at the hospital, and basically only used their table since i had no monitor, iv, episiotomy, epidural -- nothing. for so long i wondered why it happened so quickly once i reached the hospital, and i truly believe now that my fight-or-flight response kicked in, and rather than stopping my labor, it just kicked it into high gear so i could have my baby as quickly as possible and, on a primitive level, get him to safety. so some would say that i still had the birth i wanted -- vaginal, more or less intervention-free, and certainly drug-free -- and yet those people could never comprehend the immense pain i feel every day at the way my son was brought into this world.

immediately following the delivery my son was taken to a table on the other side of the room, where he was suctioned and slapped for ten minutes. when he finally came to me, he was clean and swaddled with just his little face peaking out, and i felt NOTHING. i was flat. it didn't compute that all that work had resulted in this little alien creature. they took him away for "observation" and i, this incredibly assertive, loud-mouth, know-it-all woman, didn't even think to object. later they returned him to me and i tried to put him to the breast -- nothing. they gave him a bath, against my objections, and of course he got cold. rather than allowing him to lay against my skin, they insisted on taking him to the nursery to put him under the lights. he was gone for hours. and i am ashamed to say that i didn't care. i hadn't slept for four days and all i wanted to do was sleep like death.

finally i became more interested in putting isaiah to the breast. but nothing happened. he sucked and cried and sucked and cried, but nothing came out. he'd been given a bottle in the nursery (again, against my explicit wishes), and he couldn't get the sucking right. they tried to put me on a supplement (the tube thing), but he couldn't latch on properly. this problem was compounded by my flat nipples. he wasn't getting a drop no matter how hard i tried. they promised to send a lactation consultant to me but it was hours and hours until they did. when she came, she tried several different techniques and nothing worked. finally she brought me an industrial pump (which i now know was ridiculous because all i had was colostrum), which also did not work. they sent me home with bottles of formula and told me to keep trying to train him on the breast. they were, of course, very supportive of me trying to breastfeed, while sending me home with a "gift bag" full of advertizements for formula, coupons, samples, etc... hm. very motivating. :LOL

this is the stickling point that i reach with lactivists who say, "oh, so many women just can't handle the crying while the baby is learning to breastfeed, so they give up and go on the bottle." it is EXCRUCIATING to know that your child is starving, you're full of delicious, nutricious food, and YOU CAN'T GIVE IT TO HIM. all you want to do is satisfy his hunger, to make him happy. we have an incredible driving need, biologically, to satisfy our infants' needs, especially hunger. in some cases, sure, it's laziness, or squeamishness, or impatience. but sometimes it's a beautiful and fulfilling desire to make your child happy, to see his or her eyes roll with satisfaction at the feeling of fullness.

look, we all know "breast is best." we've all read the statistics about ear infections, colds and coughs, allergies, etc. we've all heard the talk about bonding. as a training midwife i've heard it more than anyone. and i believe it, really i do. but when you get right down to it, in the middle of the third night of having our son home, he stopped taking the supplement at my breast. he'd take the formula in his mouth and spit it right out. he screamed for six hours straight before falling into an exhausted sleep. i squeezed my breasts until i thought they would pop. not a single drop of fluid appeared. i sobbed and raged and screamed until 8 in the morning, when i called my new-mother friend in desperation and asked her to please come feed my child from her breasts. she was over in five minutes and gave my son his first full meal since he'd been born. my heart just broke at seeing how well he latched on, watching him stare at my friend's face as he gulped and gulped. he fell into his first full-stomach sleep and i have never been so relieved in my life. any mother in her right mind would give her child a bottle rather than starving him. i read stories of mothers who persevered so long that their children are hospitalized, and i think, that's a success story? maybe breastfeeding is much more about you than about your child in that case. that seems like pure selfishness to me, to starve your child so you can feel "empowered."

later that day my midwife came by to see if she could figure out what the problem was. we spent two hours poring over my breast size, shape, structure, pushing, pulling, yanking like you wouldn't believe. and at the end of it i finally started getting a few drops out. she felt my breasts for an hour or so before finally saying that she suspected i had recessed milk glands. the milk glands usually start about an inch behind the nipple, but mine are more like five inches behind. the theory behind breastfeeding is that the infant stimulates the milk glands with his mouth, basically expressing the milk himself. this is of course assisted by letdown, various hormones, state of mind of the mother, position, etc. with recessed milk glands, however, my son couldn't stimulate them, so the milk couldn't come down. perhaps if he could have worked at my breasts for longer than thirty seconds in a sitting, something may have worked out. but i've been blessed with the world's most impatient baby, and thirty seconds is about as long as he gives me (even now) before he gets so upset he can't eat.

i visited various lactation consultants and they all confirmed this finding. the other problem was that my glands were so far back, even pumps didn't work. i was encouraged to try hand-expressing and continue to use my son as a stimulant by essentially using my breasts as a pacifier -- a nice idea that my son wasn't exactly receptive to due to my flat nipples.

hand-expressing necessitated the use of supplementary formula as i didn't produce very much. i used everything available to boost milk supply and never saw a difference, although i did sweat maple syrup for quite a while. hand-expressing was one of the more frustrating experiences in my life. my son has never been a napper and so i had to hope and pray he'd be quiet for fifteen minutes five to seven times a day -- what a laugh. but i did my best. the problem that arose was that i had to squeeze soooo hard to get the milk out, and i had to really dig in to reach my glands -- so i became quite bruised and so swollen, my scant milk supply started to drop. it was so frustrating trying to keep my son calm while slaughtering my back and shoulders with that awkward repetitive position, plus trying to keep the little cup stable while the milk dripped in. i can't tell you how many times i screamed in frustration and threw that little cup at the wall after it tipped over. but i cannot deny the triumph i felt at getting a whole 2 oz. from both breasts combined in a sitting! unfortunately that was the most i ever got. i had been using those nipple attachment things to try to draw out my flat nipples, and ten days or so after my son was born, my midwife suggested i try an industrial pump.

this is where my story gets really ugly. the pump only drew out milk on maximum. i don't know how many of you used an industrial breast pump on maximum seven times a day for twenty minutes at a time, but the pain is excruciating. i am a redhead and my skin is very thin and sensitive, and after a few days i was already starting to develop sores. i could actually see the pump pulling bits of skin off my nipples, as disgusting as that is. : my nipples stung so much i could barely handle wearing clothes. intimacy with my husband was out of the question; i could barely handle hugs. my breasts leaked all the time. i continued to try to use myself as a pacifier for my son but he never responded. i never got very much and it never seemed to satisfy my son, but i was happy he was getting milk from me at all. i thought, maybe i can do this for a year. surely my nipples will toughen. i was happy he was getting some sort of nourishment from me, some immunities. but a month into pumping, i started bleeding profusely. all the milk i pumped had to be dumped out because of the blood in it. my nipples became horribly mutilated. it was disgusting. i would sob pumping, determined that i would get over the pain, and toughen my nipples, and eventually get over this and be able to give my son my milk again. my midwife came to visit, took one look at my nipples, and told me to stop flagellating myself. she said, "your son is surviving fine on the formula. he is healthy, happy, growing and thriving. you have done the best you can. let yourself heal!" i cried that night putting the pump away for the last time. i told myself that i would just let my nipples heal and then i'd start pumping again. but by the time i could have pumped again, my milk had dried up.

i have to say that having justification for stopping the pumping was such a relief. i wasn't enjoying my son, or my life. i was in constant pain, physically and emotionally. i was flagellating myself. this was compounded by incredible debilitating pain in my back and shoulders (recently diagnosed as fibromyalgia), and pain and pressure from a prolapse i developed after the birth. i was so exhausted at the end of the day, i scared my husband on multiple occasions by not even stirring when my son, lying right next to me, would scream in the middle of the night. i stopped pumping, stopped hand-expressing, and i was finally able to relax and enjoy life with my son. i could play with him, hug him, and be affectionate with my husband again. and i totally consider that worth it. i would rather have a fulfilling relationship with my son (and husband) and have him living on formula, than be miserable, repulsive, resentful, in constant pain, and deeply depressed. it is sad to say, but it was only after i gave up the idea of breastfeeding my son that i was able to bond with him. so what does that say about breastfeeding being essential to bonding?

but i still feel enormous guilt. i tell people that i'm studying to be a midwife and they look at my bottle-fed son with skepticism. i feel ashamed every time i feed him in public. sometimes i'll even feed him in the bathroom to avoid the "looks" -- you know, the "looks"? and every time i feed my son, i still ache to put him to my breast. shouldn't i be feeling better after all this time? shouldn't that driving biological function have diminished after four months? but it gets stronger all the time. i've even considered using a supplementary system again -- so that if he wasn't being fed by the breast, he'd at least be fed at the breast. but then i wonder if it would even work after all this time. those little tubes are so tiny and my son is such an avid eater.

my son is four months old now. i use cloth diapers. my son has never had diaper rash. he laughs, giggles, sleeps through the night, and grins when he sees me. he slept in our room the first four months and then moved to a crib when he started sleeping through the night. he's teething already and i was told to start him on rice cereal at 3 1/2 months old. he's doubled in weight from his original 8 lb. 3 oz. -- he's hefty, pudgy, and beautiful. he responds immediately to voices and faces and even mimics me when i say "dadada" or "mamama." he follows my hands when i use sign language with him. he rolled, held up his head, and sat with support well before the expected time. we're raising him organic, vegan and making our own baby food. i used a sling as long as he'd let me, but he hated being confined. now that he sits with support he can use it again, and i keep him close to my body as much as i can. we would have kept him in our room much longer but i was diagnosed with fibromyalgia and i absolutely had to have my rest. and now i am so grateful that my husband can get up with him in the night and feed him without even rousing me, because before i was diagnosed i'd been in so much pain i couldn't even pick up my son anymore, and i feel asleep at the drop of a hat. now i am coming alive to my son. i am convinced that "bonding" through breastfeeding has much more to do, in general, with the mother than with the baby. my son bonded with no problem. i only recently bonded entirely. i'm struggling still with a pretty serious post-partum depression, but i adore my son. he is strong and capable, intelligent and healthy, and he knows i'm his mama. do i think he would be even better if he had been breast-fed? maybe. but i never feel a lack in my little boy. he is perfect and i'd never let anyone convince me otherwise.
post #171 of 307
Oh God, AlleyCat, I'm so sorry. What a hard, hard story.
post #172 of 307
Quote:
Originally Posted by Satori
How old is your baby now? It sounds like your may have had 3 possible problems.

1) She's got acid reflux
2) She's got SID/DSI issues (check out the Special Needs forum)
3) She threw something out of whack during birth and needs to see a chiro. Was her birth unusual? Extremely short? Prolonged pushing stage? Traumatic in some way? This is an issue for a lot of babies.

Just giving you ideas to help your dd now and possible things to look for with your next child
1 is very possible, it has not been diagnosed as we officially have a medicaid dr. who is none too supportive of non-vaxing parents, but I've suspected it since she was about 1 month old, and have been treating her as though she has it (burping frequently during and between meals, sitting upright, smaller feedings more often, etc) and she hasn't had any of the screaming episodes she was prone to during 1 month (which I was told was just colick, of course ). But by then, I was already at my wit's end when it came to my attempts to bf. I don't know what, if anything, I could have done differently to promote a bf'ing relationship. Every hold I could use for breastfeeding, she hated, and it's difficult to feed a screaming baby :/

2 I have no idea what that is O.o

and 3, nope, my midwife actually deemed my labor "textbook perfect". No complications, no drugs, 6 hours of latent labor, 6 hours of hard labor total, no tearing on my part, no strain or trauma on Nora's.

And we have found, she really is just *extremely* particular about everything, it's a trait we've noticed in her since birth. She demands to sleep a certain way, and will not sleep until that demand is met. She will be restless until you are doing the exact activity she wants to do, whether it's walking, sitting, watching tv, or helping her stand up or sit. What can I say, she's a princess, lol.

ETA AlleyCat, I know what you're talking about on pumps on maximum I had the same issue, and with how little I got from each pumping, sitting in front of that thing, the only thing I could think was "Mooooooooooooooooooo..." everytime I hooked up to it, just seeing less and less of my already small supply at every pumping. Those things HURT when you're using them on maximum 7-9 times a day
post #173 of 307
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Originally Posted by Neoma
And we have found, she really is just *extremely* particular about everything, it's a trait we've noticed in her since birth. She demands to sleep a certain way, and will not sleep until that demand is met. She will be restless until you are doing the exact activity she wants to do, whether it's walking, sitting, watching tv, or helping her stand up or sit. What can I say, she's a princess, lol.
Sounds like she's got SI issues, you can get her evaluated for free through your states early intervention program. Those OT's work miracles! Check out http://www.sinetwork.org for some information. I'd never even heard of it until my dd was dx'd with it and I had thought she was just a really really high needs kid until they started doing therapy and life started becoming easier. I litterally was unable to put her down her first 18 months of life, even when she was sleeping. A month of therapy and she was actually playing on the playground whereas the month before she just totally freaked out.
post #174 of 307
wow, what moving stories! I used to be one of the militant lactivists who doubted every woman who said she couldn't breastfeed--- oh boy did I have an attitude change! I had low supply with #3 and as another poster said it is the worst pain possible to see your DC be hungry or not seem to get enough. There were days when she peed just twice a day. By that point she would not take a bottle and believe me I would have given her one. She would not suck from a bottle until she was 12 months old and at that point weighed a whopping 17 pounds. The only thing she would take was spoonfed ice water and the fruit baby food (would not take homemade). Then with #4 i had chronic oversupply and repeat mastitis that was so severe I was bedridden more often than not with raging fevers that caused me to hallucinate, despite natural and mainstream treatment. That hell ended when I became pregnant and my milk dried up. Now I look at my breasts and wonder, what will they do to me next? Of course I wrack my brains over what I did wrong and what I can do to prevent these problems in the future. I consulted LCs, midwives, scoured the internet, even read technical books about bovine lactation to try to figure out my repeat mastitis! I am still a militant believer in breastfeeding but I am also now totally supportive and generous-hearted toward women who have BFing problems or who cannot BF and will NEVER be judgemental again.

I wanted to edit to add this little story: with #4 when my milk dried up due to pregnancy she hung on for 2 months. I tried very hard to get her to drink from a bottle or cup because she was "drying up" and I was still having infections. When she finally drank from a bottle (juice) and there I was holding her... well you know what... we stared into each others eyes and this amazing love flowed back and forth between us. I guess I had been made to think that bottles equal less love or something. Breast is best, definitely, but a bottle does not mean that you don't or can't love your baby.
post #175 of 307
Oh Alleycat that was so hard to read, I can't even imagine what you've gone through during that time. I believe you can bond just as well w/out bf. I believe I bonded just fine with my baby even though she was feed by bottle.

I just wanted to say that my story ended up w/my baby finally learning to bf. I kept up my supply by pumping. I decided a few months ago that I was content with myself to just having to pump for her and not being able to bf. But for some reason a little over a month ago, I decided to try bf again. Well she took to it. No crying, no screaming in pain she just took like she always had bf. I can't believe it still.
post #176 of 307
i just stumbled on this forum today, and I want to give a big hug to everyone.

I adopted my daughter at 6 months old. She was extremely attached to her bottle and it was the only security she had at first. I have tried to bottle nurse her just the way I would breast feed, i.e. on her cue, held close at my breast, and only by a mommy (in our case, we have two!) By that I mean that she doesn't get to wander around holding her bottle, for example. She otherwise drinks out of a sippy cup or regular cup. I would say that both my partner and I enjoy a very nurturing and close nursing relationship with our daughter. She looks forward to her nursing times even as a toddler - she will snuggle in and relax and eye-gaze and all of that. I was sad at first about not getting to breastfeed, but my daughter is healthy, we are extremely connected to each other, and everything is working out.

I ran into a lot of negative formula comments and information when I was trying to find information about organic formula and "attached bottle feeding." We just sort of found our own way with it. I personally am grateful for formula, which kept my daughter alive when she lost her birth mother. I dearly wish we could quit judging and shaming other women and instead work together for a world in which all mamas and pappas are supported and all babies are loved.
post #177 of 307
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Originally Posted by sweetpeasmom
But for some reason a little over a month ago, I decided to try bf again. Well she took to it. No crying, no screaming in pain she just took like she always had bf. I can't believe it still.
That is awesome!
post #178 of 307
congrats, sweetpeasmom!!!

i'm in the process of trying to re-lactate here. i have a little milk so far, and Willow has latched on a few times. she gets bored when there's only a few drops, but it's progress!

other than my husband and a local crunchy email list, i have no support, though. others criticize me, saying "why bother, when she's at the age when she'd wean herself anyway?" *bah* it's like, so many people think BF vs FF is only about nutrition, and even then it's only nutrition for the first 6-9 months it seems.
post #179 of 307
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Originally Posted by AlleyCat213
but i still feel enormous guilt......shouldn't i be feeling better after all this time? shouldn't that driving biological function have diminished after four months? but it gets stronger all the time.
In my experience, the guilt took a very long time to be assuaged. Heck, I still feel guilty and my son will be 3 in a week & a half. My son was born with a severe cleft lip & palate that prevented nursing, but I was successful in pumping for 13 months. At about 10 months, my supply dropped beneath his demand and I started herbs to increase it, which didn't do much, and futzed with my pumping methods and schedule to encourage more milk, which also didn't accomplish much. After awhile, I had to begin to forgive myself and decided to wean, which I did very slowly over 2 months or so. I did so with much sadness and I still spent the next year wishing I could nurse boo-boos away and hating the site of the sippy cup filled with cow's milk and the pacifier my son depended on to satisfy the suck his newly-repaired mouth enjoyed. I went into therapy to discuss all this when he was about 18 months old and finally decided to try for another baby who I hoped to nurse without problems.

I am lucky, in a way, that my problems nursing had to do with my child rather than me (though there's not a lot I wouldn't do to take the pain of having to be "repaired" away from my son). I am lucky that I had such an easy time (mostly) pumping. I am especially lucky to be 2 months into a near perfect nursing relationship with my new son.

The path to healing is something unique for every mother. You will find yours, but I am certain it will most of all require time.
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Hi, I'm Laurel. I'm the one who started this thread--it's been well over 2 years ago!

I just wanted to agree with Annakiss. Healing takes time, but it does happen if you allow it to. My ds just turned 3. The thing that has most helped me through this process has been seeing what a loving, attached little boy he has become. I honestly don't feel that our relationship would be any better if I had been able to continue bf'ing him. We have a very close bond. He is a very physical child, so he still loves to sit on my lap, have me lay in bed and read him stories at nap time (and his feet have to be *on* me), jump on me, sit on my lap at dinner time (or at least have his chair pulled as close to mine as possible), etc. I think it would be hard for his child to be much more physically attached to me through nursing than he already is!

I think at the time we had to stop breastfeeding, my biggest fear was that we wouldn't have as close of a relationship because of it. But that has definitely not been the case. My heart is at peace because of watching things develop over time between him and me. I guess I am lucky that I got a child who is a true "cuddler", because having that has really helped my healing. It has been wonderful to see that my little guy still needs *me*!

I am still wholeheartedly committed to breastfeeding, and I still long to have that experience. I am even more determined to nurse the next baby. We have a baby possibly joining our family through adoption in October if all goes well. Before we made the decision to pursue adopting this child, I had so many challenging feelings about induced lactation. I knew I would still do it, but I felt quite cynical about it working. However, now that I am on that path again, I feel a great deal of peace about it. I am excited to induce lactation again, and I feel very optimistic that we will be successful this time.
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