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post #21 of 34
I live in Madison. This is not the first bad thing I have heard about delivering at St. Mary's but certainly it is the worst. I have not given birth there myself. St. Mary's is full of it if they are claiming they are not understaffed and tha tnone of the hospitals in the area are. I have been at both the other area hospitals and from my experience they *are* understaffed.

As for them admitting what they had done, they only admitted it after the feds and state govt came in to investigate and threatened them with the loss of medicare/medicaid patients (big $$$ for hospitals). At first they would only say that the girl had died during an "emergency" c-section. If they had time to explain what was going to happen, and time to give her an epidural first (from my understanding they take about 40 min to take effect from start to finish), that doesn't really sound like an emergency to me. It is my understanding that a true emergency c-section uses general anaesthesia. St. Mary's was trying to cover up and do damage control right from the start.

I was wondering if someone was going to pick up on this story here at MDC!

You are seeing the follow-up story abotu this. The original news story about this came out more than a week prior to this one.

The feds told them a week ahead of time that they were going to be investigated and they still found all kinds of major screw-ups when they got there.

Just a few months ago DH and I were out to eat and overheard some women at another table complaining about the sloppiness and poor care at the maternity ward at St. Mary's. It wasn't clear whether they were nurses themselves or if this was care one of them had received while she was there and I didn't want to be nosy so I didn't ask.

I feel really bad for the nurse. She was probably hurried from overwork and under pressure from her superiors to keep up. The mistakes she made were found throughout this hospital and a symptom of administration problems. My father was a hospital RN so I used to hear all about administration and supervisor lunacy.

This might be cynical, and maybe we'll hear more about what happened later, but I hate to think that maybe this girl was pushed into a c-section because she was on medical assistance and the c-section would get the hospital and doctor more money.

The scary thing is that this hospital is where our insurance requires us to deliver, should we need a hospital. It convinced DH that our next will be a homebirth if at all possible. I am going to write to our ins. co. and request that they switch to Meriter (the other hosp. that does deliveries).

What a sad thing for that girl's baby.
post #22 of 34
OMG


What a tragic waste.
post #23 of 34
HOLY CRAP!!! I'm not a nurse or an anesthestist or anything and even I know to read the labels!!! What a horrible, awful, tragic thing! My DH asked if this happenend in the same place as the lady having all her limbs accidentally amputated. Wow. MOre reasons to stay the hell away from the hospital to birth if at all possible!

Namaste, Tara
post #24 of 34


OMG how horrible I agree it's another reason to never give birth in a hospital

post #25 of 34
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Originally Posted by hopefulfaith
You are so lucky. Unionized?
Damn straight. I will never work a non-union nursing job.

Though the Shrub's NLRB is currently trying to reclassify nurses as supervisors, which will take away our right to both unionize and be paid overtime. Because the people you want overworked are those taking minute-by-minute care of your loved ones.
post #26 of 34
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I know someone who recently gave birth at that hospital. She ended up having a forceps delivery : that left a humongous bruise on her poor baby's face.
post #27 of 34
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Originally Posted by MamaTaraX
HOLY CRAP!!! I'm not a nurse or an anesthestist or anything and even I know to read the labels!!!

This is so much more than being able to read.

I believe it's about the incredibly tragic, awful, sad, and devastating results when nurses are overworked and rushed because hospitals care more about the almighty dollar than they do about patients. Some women have to deliver in a hospital; I think we can all agree on that, even on MDC. People should care about nursing conditions - I would venture to say that most units don't follow AWHONN staffing guidelines, and that affects how women are cared for or unable to be cared for by their nurses.

And more -- I know that both nurses and women who choose to deliver in hospitals are vilified in most forums here on MDC, but this isn't a case of "stupid nurse" and "patient who deserved what she got because she chose to deliver in a hospital" -- these are fellow women - one who has to live with killing another woman and leaving her child motherless and another who doubtless would never have wanted to die like this and leave her baby. For this, I think we all owe compassion.
post #28 of 34
Blaming any individual nurse doesn't address the systems errors and chronic overwork of nursing staff. It's much, much bigger than one nurse making one mistake, because the point of havign systems in the first place is to ensure that one human error does not create a tragedy like this. In an airplane crash, there's hardly ever one person to blame. It's the same here, but nurses make an easy target.
post #29 of 34
Calm down. No evil meant. I have the utmost respect for L&D and all nurses

Namaste, Tara
post #30 of 34
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Originally Posted by maxmama
Damn straight. I will never work a non-union nursing job.

Though the Shrub's NLRB is currently trying to reclassify nurses as supervisors, which will take away our right to both unionize and be paid overtime. Because the people you want overworked are those taking minute-by-minute care of your loved ones.
They have tried to unionize many times in this state but it hasn't happenned, probably will never happen.

And I will be pissed if they ever make it so I couldn't get overtime pay for my over time hours. That would suck!!
post #31 of 34
I live in Madison too, where we are fortunate to have a wonderful homebirth community. Among homebirthers I would say both hospitals are considered an okay place to have a baby if you need to go to a hospital. Some even think St. Mary's is better.

The reality is that hospitals are dangerous places, and it's best not to go there if there isn't a medical necessity.

Squirmy baby--must go.
post #32 of 34
I read that the IV was supposed to be for routine antibiotics for GBS? I don't know anything about this hospital, but I have to say that the thing that really jumps out at me is the whole "routine IV". If women weren't getting IVs just for being in labour, it's a lot less likely that they'd be getting the wrong drug by IV. I really wish this whole "routine" puncturing, cutting, etc. would be thrown out and these procedures would be done when needed.
post #33 of 34
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Originally Posted by Storm Bride
I read that the IV was supposed to be for routine antibiotics for GBS? I don't know anything about this hospital, but I have to say that the thing that really jumps out at me is the whole "routine IV". If women weren't getting IVs just for being in labour, it's a lot less likely that they'd be getting the wrong drug by IV. I really wish this whole "routine" puncturing, cutting, etc. would be thrown out and these procedures would be done when needed.
Well, IMO, antibiotics for positive GBS are needed, and if she wanted an epidural (which was what I understood) she needed a line for that as well.
post #34 of 34
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Originally Posted by MamaTaraX
Calm down. No evil meant. I have the utmost respect for L&D and all nurses
Sorry, Tara - I know what a compassionate person you are; I have a great deal of respect for your posts. Just my soapbox again...gotta put that thing in the closet. ((hugs Tara)) Thanks.
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