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post #21 of 73
And what does a cat smell like?

Mine don't have a smell to them.
post #22 of 73
We had a visit from DCF(ya them people) because our dog bit my son(we are getting rid of her don't worry) and they tried to make me look like a worse mama then I feel because I have ppd.

The dr. that called them on us never even seen my son, we took him to the urgent care clinic and they just said that there was no reason he was brought in because it was so little. And animal control came to look at the dog to determain what should be done and she relized that she is just a puppy(she is a 16 wk old Great Dane) so the dog is under (as they call quarentine) I call house arrest, she can go out of her cage(it's a big cage) to go outside on a leash to the bathroom and then right back.


My husband mentioned it to his work(he's military he has too) and they said that the dr had no business calling them because it was just stupid.
post #23 of 73
There's no mention in the OP of how you knew they were legimate. Were they in uniform? Driving a sheriff's vehicle? Did they show appropriate identification? The whole thing--not your story, the men's approach--sounds vague and a little creepy.

Missy
post #24 of 73
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Missy
There's no mention in the OP of how you knew they were legimate. Were they in uniform? Driving a sheriff's vehicle? Did they show appropriate identification? The whole thing--not your story, the men's approach--sounds vague and a little creepy.

Missy
Missy,

When they mentioned they were from the Sheriff's department, I noticed the one on the porch had a star badge and a gun on his hip(I didn't check the other guy that closely as I was answering the questions the one on the porch was asking). Neither was wearing a uniform. I believe they were wearing jeans and a regular shirt.

I couldn't see the vehicle from the porch, but when they walked away, I went inside and looked out the window facing the driveway and there was a car but there were no markings on it that I could see.

Yeah it is creepy, isn't it!?! I guess I was just figuring that they don't want people to know who they are in advance so that you will open the door. We moved here about 10 months ago, and the house we lived in before that(in a town) I got a knock one day and I was smarter then and just looked out the window on the door and the guy then held up his badge so I could see it then I opened the door. Apparently he was a truancy officer trying to locate a teenager that used to live in the house we were living in because the teenager hadn't been in school...I just explained that we had recently moved in and that it must be the previous residents. From what I remember, he drove an unmarked car also.

But now you've got me thinking, and I'm a little scared. What else could they be if they weren't really from the Sheriff's dept??

Sara
post #25 of 73
You could call the Sherriff's Dept to make sure it was legitmate. If in fact it was, no harm done. If it wasn't, the Sherriff's Dept needs to know that people are driving around impersonating police officers. Not cool!
post #26 of 73
Quote:
But now you've got me thinking, and I'm a little scared. What else could they be if they weren't really from the Sheriff's dept??
I would call the Sheriff's dept and verify that some had in fact been sent out there.
post #27 of 73
Either way, I'd be freaked out. But, your description of their visit just struck me as strange. If they're not from the sheriff's office, they may have been counting on the fact that most people, particularly mothers, would be overwhelmingly intimidated by the mention of family services and wouldn't even think about questioning their presence. I would definitely contact the sheriff's office and/or family services (I know you've already called; if they don't call back this morning, call again). I hope you get some answers very soon!

Missy
post #28 of 73
Thread Starter 

A little bit of an update....

Ok, so Family Services returned the call this morning and my husband called them back from work. The lady talked to everyone in the office and told my husband that nobody knew a thing about us, and basically that it wasn't them....now I have no idea if they would lie or not. My husband said that they better talk to the Sheriff's dept. and figure out what's going on...she said she knew somebody in the Sheriff's Dept and would call them and if she found out anything call us back. That was this morning, and we never got any more calls from them today(have caller id). We got home kind of late this evening, so I'm guessing my DH will call the Sheriff's Dept. tomorrow when he gets home from work if we haven't heard anything by then.

I asked my DH if he hired those guys to scare me so I would get the house cleaned finally!! He denies those alligations.

Sara
post #29 of 73
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Originally Posted by Saramomofmany
Ok, so Family Services returned the call this morning and my husband called them back from work. The lady talked to everyone in the office and told my husband that nobody knew a thing about us, and basically that it wasn't them....now I have no idea if they would lie or not.

Sara
CPS lady talked to everyone in your husband's office?
How and or Why would she talk to everyone in his office, but no one knew a thing?

I HATE THESE PEOPLE!

Are you uncertain if the CPS people would lie or not?
post #30 of 73
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Tummy
CPS lady talked to everyone in your husband's office?
How and or Why would she talk to everyone in his office, but no one knew a thing?

I HATE THESE PEOPLE!

Are you uncertain if the CPS people would lie or not?
Ok, let me rephrase it(I was tired when I wrote last night so maybe it didn't come out right). The CPS lady said she talked to everyone in her office and none of those people had any information on us(like we didn't have a file nor were they were investigating us).

I was saying I didn't know if the CPS lady would lie and say they didn't know anything about us if they did, or if they would tell us that yes they had sent the Sheriff's Dept out.

Does that make more sense? Sorry I was confusing. Hopefully the lady calls back(but in case she doesn't, I just sent my DH a text message to ask him to call the CPS lady again at his lunch break to see if she found out anything). My DH works in a factory type of place, so he can't get/make calls during work, he has to wait until break, but he should get the text message when his lunch break arrives.

Sara
post #31 of 73
Sara,
I will tell you with what I know.. (every state is different but)... CPS/DCF does not send any LEO out to do an investigation .. especially when a child(ren) are involved.

They go themselves accompanied by LEOs.

It all sounds a bit fishy all together.

I mean really, if the LEO thought that your house might be a meth lab do you think they would come and ask you about it???

I would think that they would silently investigate the idea with out your knowing it was happening!
post #32 of 73
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Originally Posted by Tummy
Sara,
I will tell you with what I know.. (every state is different but)... CPS/DCF does not send any LEO out to do an investigation .. especially when a child(ren) are involved.

They go themselves accompanied by LEOs.

It all sounds a bit fishy all together.

I mean really, if the LEO thought that your house might be a meth lab do you think they would come and ask you about it???

I would think that they would silently investigate the idea with out your knowing it was happening!
I totally agree mama, We recently called DHR( dept of human resources, is whats its called here) on a little boy that has told us his mommmy has been "touching" him( SICKENING I know) and they did the investigation themselves, and called the Sheriff's dept when they needed a warrant/etc, NOT to do the investigation...

I would be concerned too if I was you....I hope it all works out and they were really officers..
post #33 of 73
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tummy
Sara,
I will tell you with what I know.. (every state is different but)... CPS/DCF does not send any LEO out to do an investigation .. especially when a child(ren) are involved.

They go themselves accompanied by LEOs.

It all sounds a bit fishy all together.

I mean really, if the LEO thought that your house might be a meth lab do you think they would come and ask you about it???

I would think that they would silently investigate the idea with out your knowing it was happening!
Tummy,

Yeah, the whole things is weird to me too. It's kind of freaked me out, I mean I'm starting to get a little paranoid like are they going to come back are they watching me, etc.

I'm curious though, what is a LEO?

Hopefully we can get to the bottom of this and find out what's going on. My mom was asking me well did you get their names, did they show ids, etc. I was like I have no idea!! Like I said, we live out in the country, nobody ever really stops by here, except the phone company once or twice when I had contacted them to say the phone wasn't working right, or the mail lady if there's a package too big for the mailbox, but really basically in the 10 months we've lived here, we've had maybe a total of 5 knocks on the door. Being that I'm home alone with 3 kids, makes me scared to open the door, and so I was already having a corinary because I open the door and there's two men out there. And then I didn't think to ask for proof of id or something. I don't think that the guy that talked to me showed me any kind of id, but I remember noticing the gun on his hip and somewhere, not sure if it was on his hip or where, I think it was a star(badge). But really I have no way of knowing if they were really from the Sheriff's dept, except for if we talk to someone there and try to get someone that knows something to let us know what's going on. I'm almost more scared to find out, because what if they weren't, then what the heck's going on? And if they are, then why did they lie and say that family services contacted them when they hadn't? Shrug, I don't know.

Thanks for your information...I'm really clueless about the system as I thankfully never had to deal with it before.

Sara
post #34 of 73
Thread Starter 
Oh, and another thing regarding if they thought we had a meth lab...I have no idea why they would have even thought that....our lawn was pretty long(our lawnmower had broken), and we did have a bunch of kid's toys out in the yard, but I have no idea what would make them really think we had a meth lab going on here. Like, how would they have even found us in the first place...do they randomly go by houses and say oh they didn't mow their lawn, bet they're making drugs!?!

On the subject of the cat smell(which I'm assuming it was cat pee they are talking about)...I went outside and walked by the window that the cat's litter box is close to(it's open a bit), and I am pregnant, so my sense of smell is very sensitive, and I couldn't smell any odor from the window, even when I specifically sniffed in the window, so I'm not sure if they totally made up the cat smell line too.

Hopefully they never come back, but if they do, do you think I should just not answer the door? AM I under any obligation to answer the door when I'm home alone with my kiddos??

Sara
post #35 of 73
LEO=Law enforcement officer

I really hope you can get your answers soon, the whole situation sounds strange. Has your DH called the sheriff's dept yet?
post #36 of 73
Sara,

I would get an answer from the Sheriff's office asap (like yesterday) and then, if it was not them, file a police report immediately. And I'd get a dog. A big, loud dog.

Missy
post #37 of 73
Maybe I'm paranoid, but my thought would be that they were casing the place, figuring out who's home when. I would call the sheriff's department asap and verify that they sent someone to your place. Explain that you're often home "alone" with your children and are worried for your safety. Be prepared to give them as many details about the men's appearance and the vehicle they were driving if the sheriff's department says they didn't send anyone out, and ask them to do some randomly timed patrols in your area.
post #38 of 73
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by MamaChel
LEO=Law enforcement officer

I really hope you can get your answers soon, the whole situation sounds strange. Has your DH called the sheriff's dept yet?
I should have been able to figure out LEO, but for the life of me couldn't, guess it's that pregnant brain syndrome!!

I sent a text message to my DH to call the family services lady at his lunch break, so then when he called me at his lunch break I asked him if he called her and he was like oh did she call again? : I asked him didn't he check his text message and he said no, he just came and called me. SO I never really got an answer from him if he was going to call her or not. I think he was hoping to hear back from the family services lady before talking to the Sheriff's dept, but maybe we should just go directly to them. (though I'm making him do it, because I'm already too stressed out about the whole situation).

I just looked up the # for the Sheriff's dept and will text message it to him so hopefully he'll look at it at his third break in about 45 min.

Thanks for your support mamas. This has been one heck of a situation for me.

Sara
post #39 of 73
This thread is really disturbing to me. I really hope that the Sherrif's department helps you track down who these men are. As a general rule, I NEVER open my door when home alone with my babe. As women, we have some strange guilt about not being nice and hospitable -- even if it means endangering the lives of our children and ourselves. Do not feel bad about not opening the door. Even if it is obvious that you are home, with the stereo blasting Baby Einstein and the vacuum running. I remember Oprah doing a show on this years ago. She sent some of her own employees dressed in unmarked worker's uniforms to suburban neighborhoods. They had no i.d.s, no company markings, et cetera, yet the housewives let the men into their homes 90% of the time! All they needed was some mildly plausible excuse, like the gas being out in the neighborhood, to gain access from these very trusting women. I was certainly one of these women once upon a time. Authority figures (like the men you encountered) are always intimidating to me and I want to be compliant and avoid trouble. I think that predators rely on this trait in many women. Never feel guilty about following your instincts to lock the doors and wait for them to leave. Do not let this incident go without getting to the bottom of it. The fact that you said that there were toys in the yard struck me. If they were not LEOs, they would have picked up on that and singled your home out as one with children. Very disturbing. Be safe, Mama.
post #40 of 73
First, CPS worker will leave their card with you. ( I know. ) If teh ywere accompanied by Police, that would usually mean a warrant was issued b/c allegatiosn wer e so extreme (rare). Sounds fishy, they may have been:

FEDS or Bounty Hunters. An extremely wanted felon used to use my old address (No, we didn't know the guy.) . I know the Feds well. They ask alot of questions and give few clues. They dress "normal" but have badges and guns.

Bounty Hunters are a whole different breed and notorious for going about finding a felon using illegal ways. They may have been fishign for information.

Basically, if your addy was used in the pst by someone NOW wanted...

Call the Sherriff. Again, we had phone problems at one time. Our land line was crossed with several others. Well, we come hoem to learn the police had been in our (VERY VERY MESSY-as in had emptied out bookshelves and then gone out!!) and only the dogs were home. But we had left our door unlocked. Apparently, OUR PHONE caleld 911! : Anyway, if neighbors had not told us (even the dogs acted normal!) we woulda never known teh yhad been inside!! I ran to the Police Station and spoke to the cop who confirmed the situation.

Investigate hon.
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