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post #41 of 73
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Originally Posted by Missy
Sara,

I would get an answer from the Sheriff's office asap (like yesterday) and then, if it was not them, file a police report immediately. And I'd get a dog. A big, loud dog.

Missy
Missy, I was just thinking about the dog issue. We have a dog that's about 6-7 years old(from the pound so we're not sure exactly). We've had her since last Nov. and she's barked maybe 2 times in the whole time we've had her, and I think both those times were at the cat!! I was just thinking I'd like to get a loud dog that would actually let me know someone was coming rather than waiting for them to get to the door first, ya know!! So great minds think alike! Sara
post #42 of 73
It sounds kind of fishy to me. I would want proof that they are REALLY there on official business.


The two experiences I have had with this are:

1. My cousin IS a drug user/dealer. I would be willing to bet she also makes the stuff. She said that if you KNOW they are legit, and have a legit reason to be there, it's best to let them in and let them see your house and kids to prove that they are fine. (her's never were fine, cuz she's an idiot)

2. One of my daycare kids. They were going through a divorce. Dad called CPS claimed to be a neighbor, and said he saw the mother beating the child in the driveway. She let the police see the child, then she brought them down to me to be interveiwed. I assured them that she was the family princess and has never so much as been put in time out. They never came back again.

Have you made someone mad recenly? Could this be someones way to hurt you?
post #43 of 73
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Originally Posted by nextcommercial
It sounds kind of fishy to me. I would want proof that they are REALLY there on official business.


The two experiences I have had with this are:

1. My cousin IS a drug user/dealer. I would be willing to bet she also makes the stuff. She said that if you KNOW they are legit, and have a legit reason to be there, it's best to let them in and let them see your house and kids to prove that they are fine. (her's never were fine, cuz she's an idiot)

Have you made someone mad recenly? Could this be someones way to hurt you?
I wanted to comment on #1 you brought up...they never asked to see inside my house or see the kids, just asked if we had them, how many and if they were healthy...you don't think I should have offered them to see them do you?

As far as making someone mad...not that I know of. We don't really even know many people out here. I have 2 friends that live about 15 min. from me, we've met maybe 2 neighbors and that's about it. Most houses are a bit from each other, so it's so different from when we lived in a town.
Sara
post #44 of 73
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Originally Posted by nextcommercial
1. My cousin IS a drug user/dealer. I would be willing to bet she also makes the stuff. She said that if you KNOW they are legit, and have a legit reason to be there, it's best to let them in and let them see your house and kids to prove that they are fine. (her's never were fine, cuz she's an idiot)
If it's CPS this is a BAD BAD idea. Just ask the mamas on here who have had their children stolen by doing just that.

-Angela
post #45 of 73
i advise you report to the police or the sherrifs dept that someone came to your house immitating an officer, didnt show a warrent or his id, wanted to enter your house.

because in our area where we live, we had some people running around immitating cops, pulling people over on the street and they actually harmed some people.

edit: sorry, just saw that you said they never wanted in the house. I would still tell them about the question of your children etc......you never know what some pedophiles etc are willing to do these days to find kids in their area.
post #46 of 73
So sorry that happened to you!

I am also in MN, and I know the meth problem seems to be rampant around here.

I would personally call the Sheriff's dept and ask about it -why they were there, who was there, etc. Hopefully they will be able to provide some answers.

Oddly enough, I've had to call the police 2 times in the last year, once with a 911 call. We live in a small city in the middle of other larger cities, and don't have our own police dept so are serviced by the st. Paul sheriff's dept. They have been just great - very quick to respond. They aren't the most friendly and forth coming though, but I am glad we have them as opposed to regular police.

s,
Tracy
post #47 of 73
I find it very suspicious that they wanted to know how many children you have and their ages but didn't want to actually see them. Something's just not right there. I don't think you should have offered to let them meet your children. At all. I'm a little worried they even have that information if they do have ill intentions. Seriously, I know you're stressed out, but on this one I would call the sheriff's office personally, right now, and get the story as to what's going on. Besides, you might get more information and a quicker response (if needed) as a pregnant mother home with her children calling in than your husband would.
post #48 of 73
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Ok, another update!!

SO my DH calls me and asks what's the deal with sending him the Sheriff's #, so I explained I wanted him to call and find out if it's legit. He calls me back a minute later and said I gave him the wrong county phone #. : I relooked up the # in the phone book, and I gave him the # listed by our county, but I guess the phone book is wrong. SO then he tells me I'm just going to have to call cause his break is over. : You know how much I wanted to do that!!

SO I bit the bullet and called the Sheriff's Dept(found a different phone # listed on the internet than the phone book). The guy I talked to was in dispatch and I explained it all to him, he asked me for the officers names. I said I don' think they mentioned their names, explained that the car was a green sedan and not marked, so I had no idea. He said that it was probably drug task force...or something like that. He said they drive an unmarked green car and that they get calls about cat smells(which he said can be meth houses) and that more than likely they just were checkig it out to be sure it wasn't. He asked if I wanted to talk to them and I said no, that I had just wanted to be sure it was legit...he assured me it was.

He said that he thinks family services doesn't always tell the people if they really had initiated the visit...he said that sometimes people get caught in the middle of this that have are not drug houses, but they have to check those out too to be sure that they get the ones that are.

So unless they were highly suspicious from their visit(which I don't see how they would have any reason to be), it sounds like it should be all done and over with. Thank God!!

Though I'm still curious who called. You'd have to imagine it was someone that had been to our house. Which besides the mail lady coming, and a guy my husband traded a boat motor for lawn mower, nobody's been out here.

Anyone have chickens? IF so, do you think they smell like cat pee? We have a lot of chickens in our yard(in various chicken tractors), and I know they have a smell, but I don't think I would have said cat pee smell!!

Thanks again for all your support and advice. It helped to have some mamas to go through this with!! Blessings, Sara
post #49 of 73
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Originally Posted by Saramomofmany
they never asked to see inside my house or see the kids, just asked if we had them, how many and if they were healthy...you don't think I should have offered them to see them do you?
I just wanted to say a big fat NO. You should NOT offer to let them in your house or to see your children. First- to let them in your house if you don't know who they are is just plain unsafe. Second- they have no reason to see your kids. IF (and that's a big if) they had a valid reason to need to see them then I would strongly suggest you ask to see the warrent. They need a warrent before you have to let them see the kids. I know you're probably thinking "but if I just let them see the kids they'll see that they're fine and they'll leave me alone". But that's not always true. If they are even legit officers then they can pick apart anything they see. Sally's wearing a dirty shirt (doesn't matter that she's helping you clean). Bobby has food all over his face (doesn't matter that they came during lunch time). Billy has a bruise on his leg (doesn't matter that he's an active boy who runs around and falls like all kids do). They can put a spin on it and suddenly they are taking away your kids because you are obviously beating them (bruises) and neglecting them (dirty clothes and faces). Even if you are positive you have nothing to hide- they do not need to see your kids until/unless they have a warrent. Most of the time they won't be able to get a warrent (unless something fishy really is going on).

And, obviously, since you didn't even know for sure that they are legit I would have never let them see the kids (or let them in the house).
post #50 of 73
Phew . . . what a relief! Don't you feel better now that you called? I am glad that they turned out to be legitimate. It is kind of frightening the way that they go somewhat undercover, though. I still wouldn't open the door to them in the future. Rest easy and maybe chit chat with your neighbors more
post #51 of 73
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Originally Posted by Tummy

I have pasted that link all over MDC.. Every where I can.
Thank you for posting that link, I just put it into the links section of my "crunchy_springfield" yahoo group. So sad that we need a resource like this.:
post #52 of 73
or if you open the door, ask to see their id badge, and id.
post #53 of 73
I would talk to the drug task force to make certain that's who was at your house.
post #54 of 73
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Originally Posted by Saramomofmany
I wanted to comment on #1 you brought up...they never asked to see inside my house or see the kids, just asked if we had them, how many and if they were healthy...you don't think I should have offered them to see them do you?
NO! Especially since you had no idea why they were there. I wouldn't let anybody in my house like that.
post #55 of 73
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Originally Posted by alegna
If it's CPS this is a BAD BAD idea. Just ask the mamas on here who have had their children stolen by doing just that.

-Angela
Well, in her case it worked (for her) They would "trust" her and let the kids stay in the house for a little while. But, her kids were in terrible danger.
I love my cousin, but she really is an idiot.
post #56 of 73
Cat pee does indeed smell like Meth....I've done retraining on a number of drug dogs (that were not originally trained by me) because they were falsly indicating on cat pee.
post #57 of 73
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Originally Posted by Loves2wearbaby04
and called the Sheriff's dept when they needed a warrant/etc, NOT to do the investigation...
I have never known of any agency as such getting warrant.

I know that if they ever come to my house they will be with SWAT and warrant in hand
They hate me as much as I hate them!!!!

Nothing like 'bucking' the system at their own sick game and winning it!

Ok, I did not 'buck' the system.. but definantly gave them a run for their money.. @$$hats!
post #58 of 73
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Originally Posted by Saramomofmany
AM I under any obligation to answer the door when I'm home alone with my kiddos??

Sara
Sara,
You are not under any obligation to answer your door. It is your door, your house!

If they have a warrant they will come in anyway, but other then that you do NOT LET ANYONE INTO YOUR HOME.

Read the site word for freaking word! KNOW EVERY WORD SO YOU CAN PROTECT YOUR FAMILY !!!

http://www.geocities.com/family_righ...nts_guide.html
post #59 of 73
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Originally Posted by bebesho2
First, CPS worker will leave their card with you. ( I know. ) If teh ywere accompanied by Police, that would usually mean a warrant was issued b/c allegatiosn wer e so extreme (rare). Sounds fishy, they may have been:
I must disagree with this 100%.

CPS does not go to a home to do an investigation with out LEO, for their own protection.

CPS does not go to a home to do an investigation with a warrant.
There is no way any judge could hundreds of warrants just so a CPS investigator could come to your home and "talk to you, look around and take pictures"
post #60 of 73
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Originally Posted by alegna
If it's CPS this is a BAD BAD idea. Just ask the mamas on here who have had their children stolen by doing just that.

-Angela
Hey, I resemble that comment!!!
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