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post #61 of 107
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Originally Posted by flapjack
There's a LOT of evidence out there to suggest that the outcome for babies improve at 39 weeks, as opposed to 38.
There is no clinical justification for performing a c-section for macrosomia. The worst case scenario is that baby simply won't come out.
Can you explain that? Do you mean the baby will be overdue? Just curious. I haven't met anyone who had "small baby" but I am curious how it is diagnosed/"treated" in medicine vs. midwifery. Thanks!!!
post #62 of 107
FAT IS SQUISHY!!!!




That is all.
post #63 of 107
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Originally Posted by CEG
Can you explain that? Do you mean the baby will be overdue? Just curious. I haven't met anyone who had "small baby" but I am curious how it is diagnosed/"treated" in medicine vs. midwifery. Thanks!!!
http://www.perinatal.nhs.uk/reviews/..._sd_11_abs.htm

From the point of view of the actual birth, the biggest risk is shoulder dystocia: which occurs in approximately 1% of births. There's also the possibility that baby's head is too big and simply refuses to engage even late into labour: I've never heard of it happening to anyone standing upright and not using drugs, but that doesn't mean it doesn't.
Over here, we don't have a differentiation between medicine and midwifery: we have midwives to apply the common sense and evidence-based approach that the obstetricians lack, but they're both singing from the same hymn sheet and reading from the same textbook.
post #64 of 107
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Originally Posted by kymholly

according to my sil, the friend, "had to really push hard" to get her 9# daughter out.
she had to push hard? well, no wonder, then. none of us pushed hard, did we, ladies? me, i glanced down and there was ds, sliding down my leg and i said 'now how did that get there?'

sorry for the sarcasm. some people get me going...
post #65 of 107
Josybear
post #66 of 107
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Originally Posted by josybear
she had to push hard? well, no wonder, then. none of us pushed hard, did we, ladies? me, i glanced down and there was ds, sliding down my leg and i said 'now how did that get there?'

sorry for the sarcasm. some people get me going...
That reminds me of the monty python skit
post #67 of 107
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Originally Posted by josybear
she had to push hard? well, no wonder, then. none of us pushed hard, did we, ladies? me, i glanced down and there was ds, sliding down my leg and i said 'now how did that get there?'

sorry for the sarcasm. some people get me going...
...........i really didnt push hard.........i had an epi and couldnt feel a thing.......so i just pretended like i was peeing.....and TADA! a crowning baby.
post #68 of 107
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by josybear
she had to push hard? well, no wonder, then. none of us pushed hard, did we, ladies? me, i glanced down and there was ds, sliding down my leg and i said 'now how did that get there?'

sorry for the sarcasm. some people get me going...
Yeah, that comment was almost as shocking as the rest of it. And my sil said it to me with a straight face... like of course, I should be able to understand why *that* shouldn't have to happen again. UGH!
post #69 of 107
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Originally Posted by ApplePieBaby
Not just drug users, but if you have high blood pressure or preeclampsia, your placenta just doesn't work as well. Your body sends blood to your vital organs (heart,brain), and that doesnt include your placenta... so baby stops getting enough oxygen & nutrients to grow. I know with me, my less essential organs (liver, kidneys) starting showing signs of losing function too.
This can also happen with diabetes (both types plus GD) and with clotting disorders. The latter is the reason my daughter was stillborn, as far as we could figure out from testing. If you have a high alpha feto protein level without a concurrent neural tube defect, that can be a warning sign of placental malfunction.
post #70 of 107
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Originally Posted by flapjack
http://www.perinatal.nhs.uk/reviews/..._sd_11_abs.htm

From the point of view of the actual birth, the biggest risk is shoulder dystocia: which occurs in approximately 1% of births. There's also the possibility that baby's head is too big and simply refuses to engage even late into labour: I've never heard of it happening to anyone standing upright and not using drugs, but that doesn't mean it doesn't.
Over here, we don't have a differentiation between medicine and midwifery: we have midwives to apply the common sense and evidence-based approach that the obstetricians lack, but they're both singing from the same hymn sheet and reading from the same textbook.
Thanks- I misunderstood your post and I thought you were talking about the small for dates baby. Thanks for the explanation though
post #71 of 107
I have a friend whose doctors said she was measuring 42 weeks at 37 weeks, so needed to be induced for huge baby. Ended in C-section of course, and baby was a whopping 6 lbs 8 oz. : But in her case, it turned out to be a good mistake, as they'd totally missed the glaring signs of pre-e, and it finally ended up being diagnosed a week later when she was back in the hospital with heart problems.

On the small baby thing... If a baby is only 2 lbs 11 oz at 36 weeks, YES that baby probably needs to come out. There are cases where the baby can do better on the outside than on the inside, and that's a pretty obvious case to me. My son was a lb bigger than that at 29 weeks! If you leave an IUGR baby in too long, it could end up dying in the womb. On the outside, you can make sure it's getting the nutrients it needs. And no, IUGR is not just found in drug users or malnutritioned women. There are numerous things that could cause placental insuffiency. Obviously, that baby hadn't been getting enough nutrients for a long time. I believe that's the typical weight of a 29-30 weeker (my son was big for his gestational age).
post #72 of 107
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Originally Posted by CEG
ITA. I am not sure what kind of diagnostics they use- I think they usually say there's a placenta problem causing the baby not to grow well. I *think* this is a true concern with babes whose moms are drug abusers (esp cocaine) because it causes abnormal placenta functioning, but of course that's not the norm. I truly believe your average OB sees pregnancy and birth as a problem waiting to happen and the mother's body as a potential threat to the baby instead of the miracle it is.
I'm sorry- I didn't mean to imply that drug users were the only ones who get IUGR. That's just the only example I was pretty confident about.
post #73 of 107
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I have a friend whose doctors said she was measuring 42 weeks at 37 weeks, so needed to be induced for huge baby. Ended in C-section of course, and baby was a whopping 6 lbs 8 oz.
Holy crap! I'd better go get indued RIGHT NOW! I'm 35 weeks, measuring 40, this kid is going to be giant!!!

Sorry, couldn't help myself :
post #74 of 107
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Originally Posted by CEG
I'm sorry- I didn't mean to imply that drug users were the only ones who get IUGR. That's just the only example I was pretty confident about.
Gotcha.
post #75 of 107
That's insane. I just gave birth, naturally, to a 9lb boy. I've heard alot of stories of mamas giving birth to 10-13lb babies.

Doctors suck..
post #76 of 107
Doctors just love finding excuses to cut you up. My daughter was 10 lbs. 6 oz. and I delivered her naturally. It took me 6 hours to push her out and my midwife just let me go. There was no reason for a C-section. The only intervention I had was a very annoying, extremely uncomfortable episiotomy. Oh and by the way even when I was in labor they told me my daughter was going to be about 8 lbs. They are never right.
post #77 of 107
Just gave birth two weeks ago to my fatty 13 pound girl! At home, unassisted.
post #78 of 107
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Originally Posted by mama in the forest
Just gave birth two weeks ago to my fatty 13 pound girl! At home, unassisted.

You go, mama!!



I had a vbac with my daughter who was 9 lbs. Everyone looked at me like I was : It was a great birth....
All I have to say is thank goodness I didn't stay with my OB and I switched to a midwife halfway through my pg. He would NEVER have been cooperative about a big baby, especially 10 days past my EDD.
My midwives were awesome
post #79 of 107
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Originally Posted by josybear
she had to push hard? well, no wonder, then. none of us pushed hard, did we, ladies? me, i glanced down and there was ds, sliding down my leg and i said 'now how did that get there?'

sorry for the sarcasm. some people get me going...
ha ha ha laughup
post #80 of 107
It is criminal to intentionally deliver a baby that early with no cause. If they are so worried about it why not just wait till the poor kid is ready to come out and then section her? Unreal.

Oh forgot to mention. My DS was estimated to be over 9 pounds at 37 weeks. When my induction failed and I was sectioned, he weighed a WHOPPING 7.12
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