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post #1 of 35
Thread Starter 
My oldest DD noticed lice in both of her younger siblings' heads this afternoon. Ugh- we just went through this a month ago!

Right now, all 4 of us have coconut oil(spiked with tea tree oil) on our heads, then saran wrap, then a terrycloth turban (except me- we only have 3 turbans so I'm wearing a cotton hat.)

I bought a metal nit comb (I couldn't afford more than one, but it's metal so it can be sterilized between people.)

Should we leave the oil goop on our heads overnight, or wash it out before bed? Should I send DS to day camp tomorrow?

What should we sleep on tonight?
post #2 of 35
The oil has to stay on for a VERY long time to kill the lice and nits, but in my experience, that is the only way to get rid of them. Both times we have had lice, I have used the chemicals until we ran out of money (as in dipping into savings accounts and skipping meals kind of run out of money) and then resorted to the oils, which did work.

Shaving my son's head the last incident didn't work either.

Coconut oil is a nice, light conditioning oil that me and my dd use weekly, so it shouldn't be anywhere near as much hassle for you as the corn oil I had to use was. Just use a plastic produce bag (if you're out of saran wrap) and a pretty scarf or warm knitted hat and relax. I'd leave it on overnight at least. I've left it on for several days myself, and you can even go out in public if you wear very tight buns, braids, or ponytails because it just looks like styling gel.

I'm not sure about how contagious your son would be tomorrow, so I'll leave that to another poster.
post #3 of 35
We have far less headlice now and only get em from visiting people who aren't doing anything about them! I don't use chemicals and usually buy natural repellent only stuff not actual insecticide and just comb,comb,comb.Conditioner is a good one too. One of my kids gets riddled in them,one hardly gets any and my eldest just combs when they are around and doesn't really get em anymore. Other people can catch em if close contact is maintained, if your dc is due to go to camp shortly He would need to nitcomb his hair while he is gone. They are really annoying and am not sure how efficient the chemical stuff is you would have to carefully read the instructions as to leaving it on over night as some of that stuff could be harmful, the coconut/teatree sounds good, hope you get shot of them soon. They say that lice don't jump thats rubbish I've seen lots of jumpers. Someone gave us scabies last year, it was awful and I had to dose us in some nasty stuff several times to eventually get rid of them, again only 2 of us got them even tho my 2 dd's were sharing a bed. Boy was I mad!!
post #4 of 35
I've heard great things about tea tree oil. Worked for a mama I know that found chemical treatments to be ineffective. Good luck!!
post #5 of 35
my mw recommends mixing tt with your shampoo and using that for a couple of weeks.

My mom when I was a kid used kerosene : worked well
post #6 of 35
Also, do a vinegar rinse on the hair. THe vinegar disolves the "glue" that hold the nits to the hair making them easier to comb out! GOOD LUCK!
post #7 of 35
Thread Starter 
I hadn't heard the vinegar tip before.

How much vinegar do I need to use for this purpose?
post #8 of 35
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Originally Posted by momto l&a

My mom when I was a kid used kerosene : worked well
OMG! My sister and I tried that one year when we had SuperLice. All it did was burn like crazy and ruin our hair. That time, the only thing that worked, was dying our hair blond. : If I remember right, it was the L'Oreal kind.
post #9 of 35
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Originally Posted by Ruthla
I hadn't heard the vinegar tip before.

How much vinegar do I need to use for this purpose?
I just poured it on until our hair was soaked, then rinsed it out, applied hair serum, and combed 'em out.
post #10 of 35
Thread Starter 
OK, so undiluted vinegar?
post #11 of 35
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Originally Posted by Ruthla
OK, so undiluted vinegar?
That's what I used. Never occured to me to dilute it.
post #12 of 35
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Originally Posted by MamaInTheBoonies
OMG! My sister and I tried that one year when we had SuperLice. All it did was burn like crazy and ruin our hair. That time, the only thing that worked, was dying our hair blond. : If I remember right, it was the L'Oreal kind.
Okay, this might be ignorant, but when I was little I had a friend who had relatives that were COUNTRY. I mean really COUNTRY. I met one of her cousins and she was kind of "slow". My friend told me it was from her mother using kerosene on her head for lice one time.

Now I was a kid, and she was a kid... but it was a "well known fact" in their family that the kerosene had messed the cousin up/damaged her. Inhalation? Getting into her bloodsteam through the scalp vessels?
post #13 of 35
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Originally Posted by beansavi
Okay, this might be ignorant, but when I was little I had a friend who had relatives that were COUNTRY. I mean really COUNTRY. I met one of her cousins and she was kind of "slow". My friend told me it was from her mother using kerosene on her head for lice one time.

Now I was a kid, and she was a kid... but it was a "well known fact" in their family that the kerosene had messed the cousin up/damaged her. Inhalation? Getting into her bloodsteam through the scalp vessels?
My sister and I were adults when we tried it. No way would we have tried it on our kids first. We took all precautions that we knew of, ventilation, no fires/hot things near us, etc. I was the only one who actually put the kerosene on my head and hair, my sister just helped. It burned so bad that I didn't leave it on, yelled for her to start rinsing, NOW!!!
post #14 of 35
We all got it last year while I was pg (both of my dd's, my bf and her dd) after a visit to ex dh/biodad's house : We used lots of olive oil and lots of combing - like almost 2 1/2 weeks worth of combing (all of us have long hair) and picking through strand by strand. For the girls we would douse with EVOO, wrap hair up tight, put on a shower cap and leave it for the night. In the morning comb it all out once again, oil again and wrap til evening. The 12 hr cycles had them pretty under control within a few days with daily checks and another dousing at the week and 2 week marks. Hope your friends are out of there soon!
post #15 of 35
Thread Starter 
Waah, they're not gone yet!
post #16 of 35
i picked a bug out of ds hair about 2 weeks ago and thought nothing of it at the time as he is always getting dirty outside. But when I found the 2nd and 3rd bugs, something clicked inside my brain and I showed dh who confirmed it was lice. We had been on the road for a month, so not quite sure when or where we got them. My head had been itching before I found the lice in ds hair and I just thought my head was getting dry due to different water. Anyway, ds (2 1/2 yrs), dh, and I all have lice but it seems like I have the worst of it. I have long hair and have already trimmed off 3 inches but am considering cutting off more. I'm pretty thorough with ds and dh heads but dh just doesn't have the patience to sit there and comb my hair and pick out the nits.

anyway, this is what we've tried so far...
-Hair Clean 1-2-3 -a non-toxic remedy I found at Whole Foods
-Dousing heads in olive oil and leaving in over night (I wasn't sure how long to keep it on, it sounds like others have kept it in continuously which I may start doing too)
-MG217 Medicated Coal Tar Shampoo

I have yet to try:
-Neem Oil Shampoo (neem oil supposedly suffocates the lice sufficiently)
followed by Tea Tree Oil Conditioner

I may try dousing my head with Cetaphyl gentle face wash and using a hair dryer it until it is completely dry and then letting it set for at least 8 hours before I comb through it. It's supposed to work like the neem oil.

My plan is to do something different for 4-5 days in a row and then start the cycle over again for at least 2 weeks.

I had also heard about dying the hair. Does anyone know if it matters whether it is a shade lighter or darker?

now for a mini-vent: I'm sick of doing laundry every day. And running after a toddler and trying to reason with him about why I need to comb through his hair again... and my head itches!!!
post #17 of 35
Thread Starter 

I Am So Fed Up With This!!!!

Why am I bumping up my own thread from July? You guessed it- the lice are back. :
post #18 of 35
OMG Ruth!! I followed your thread back then, it just isn't fair!!! Maybe you can all shave your heads & live in a motel for a month or two? I'm sorry, I'm sure jokes aren't what you need right now, poor mama.
post #19 of 35
Thread Starter 
DD10 and DS have coconut oil in their hair right now- I plan to comb them out in the morning after they shower.
post #20 of 35
so sorry to hear that they're back! we still haven't gotten rid of ours. i haven't tried coconut oil yet, just olive oil. dh used some otc and thought he was over it but I pulled out some fresh nits...

what i don't understand is that i keep pulling out nits but no louse is ever seen. it's gotta be somewhere, right? where is it (are they) hiding!!!!!? dh looks and looks and never sees anything. i haven't broken down yet and tried cutting more hair or dyeing it. but wow, my head is sore from combing and getting tangled...

Metasequoia - we think we actually got ours from a motel we stayed at on a recent road trip - ick!
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