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[bamamom]

baby poop question ahead!!

my kids were ebf forever...

even when i was avoiding all allegens with dd, and trying to find all the allergens with ds, only in the first week or two of life did their yellow breastmilk poop have the little curds in it.

i heard something about this...that they were lacking something maybe?? Why would my babies have profuse normal looking yellow breastmilk poop with no curds?

[Vaquitita]

Originally Posted by Ksenia

some mothers struggle with the opposite problem - too much milk. This can lead to a lot of problems in the mother and in the baby. Babies act extremely fussy, cry a lot, are gassy and have a lot reflux and hiccoughing. This is because they are getting proportionately much more foremilk (low-fat milk that comes out first) than hindmilk (fat-rich milk that comes out afterwards). Mothers' breasts are uncomfortably full and they are at risk for plugged ducts and mastitis. Here are some good general articles on the topic: http://www.kellymom.com/bf/supply/fa...own.html#links

yeah, that sounds like me and ds. he was gassy, though it usually didn't bother him, had hiccups alot, luckily i never had plugged ducts or mastitis, i definitely have a forceful let down too. some of these things i thought was related to a milk allergy (my husband has one) and did seem to get better when i quit eating milk and cheese, but this was right around 3 mo when my milk supply also settled down.

one of the articles on too much milk on kellymom mentions nipples being white at the end of the feeding. what exactly causes this? i still get this sometimes.

[BoogieMama]

Thanks for the pointers on the supplements & the diet. That Seacure looks like a pretty good deal! I'm not really a veg for moral reasons-- but meat, even bone broth, makes me pretty sick. I do eat as much safe fish as I can find and afford (maybe 1X/ week).

I'm not convinced that I do have candida...Any kind of questionnaire I have found does not show that I show symptoms for that. I'm pretty healthy, although I was very stressed during pregnancy & did have to rely on supplements throughout or I would start losing weight.

After seeing my pediatrician this morning, I guess the question I still have is... if ds has these food intolerances, and my diet is working for him, am I fooling myself into thinking that just keeping the allergens down will work for us, or do we both probably have systemic problems that need to be corrected by rigid adherence to a cleansing diet before I wean him? Do I have to name it and systematically correct it, or can we just feel our way out of this?

I really appreciate all the input, and also just meeting you all & learning all the different stories you have.

[BoogieMama]

Ds has terrible reactions to even a teaspoon of dairy. And I have reactions even to broth, although I can have a little fish. I will check out the native traditions book, I'm getting quite a little library request list going.

Your smoothie sounds super delicious! I'm going to go have it with my falafel! I have all those ingredients in my cupboard now! Mmmmmm.

Thanks so much!!

[BoogieMama]

Fats do help, and I think I will try to find some coconut oil. Maybe the bone broth, too. I know I can get free bones from the local carniceria (I usually go in for pesach).

Thanks so much!

[LovinLiviLou]

Originally Posted by bamamom

my kids were ebf forever...

even when i was avoiding all allegens with dd, and trying to find all the allergens with ds, only in the first week or two of life did their yellow breastmilk poop have the little curds in it.

i heard something about this...that they were lacking something maybe?? Why would my babies have profuse normal looking yellow breastmilk poop with no curds?

I was just about to post the same question. My first daughter had the curds the whole time she was ebf. My newby had them about a week (after the tarpoop went away) and then they were gone. I've been wondering if that's linked to when our issues with food intolerances started.

[Kundalini-Mama]

Interesting note about the adrenal fatigue. I have finally figured out that *I* have adrenal fatigue and have been doing some reading on it. So what are carbs on SCD? Fruits & veggies & honey? Just not meat and dairy?

From what I've been reading, those w/adrenal fatigue do much better on a high protein, low carb diet, which is interesting b/c my symptoms have improved since SCD.

[Pattyla]

I bought MegaFlora today and am wondering what would happen if I cultured yogurt with it. Anyone know?

[Annikate]

Patty, From what I'm seeing on the probiotics thread, it looks like you could use that as starter.

[Annikate]

Came here to post about enzymes.

I think my tolerance for enzymes has increased so much that they're no longer working. Does this happen?

Should I increase or get a different type?

I've been using Zyme Prime w/meals (sometimes Peptizyde w/meals) and Peptizyde btw. meals (well, usually just late at night.)

[Annikate]

Would you like to add a pig's duodenum to your diet?
Look what I just found: (Look under "New Treatments - Secretin-Crohn" at the bottom of the page. ) I read one mom on another list raving about this product.
http://www.newtreatments.org/crohn.php
It's interesting really.

Here's info. about secretin.

[JaneS]

Originally Posted by sarahariz

A really interesting article, from an alternative site I like a lot:

http://www.alternativementalhealth.c...es/enzymes.htm

Very interesting! Nice to see how, how are you and your little?

EBG,

This mentions thyroid glandular, maybe that is something you can look into?
http://www.drrons.com/organic-organs-glands.htm
have you ever tracked your AM temps?

[JaneS]

Originally Posted by AmyD

Jane, am I to understand that you are adding primal defense powder right to your yogurt culture?? Hmmm

No, L. Reuteri to yogurt culture.

Primal Defense dirt to whatever I can hide it in.

Haven't started back up on it yet though, having a tough time reintroducing enzymes.

[JaneS]

Originally Posted by Ksenia

Well, non-committed types won't necessarily read until the end but obviously it's up to you.

I added to end of first post, how's that?

[Kundalini-Mama]

Originally Posted by JaneS

No, L. Reuteri to yogurt culture.

Primal Defense dirt to whatever I can hide it in.

Haven't started back up on it yet though, having a tough time reintroducing enzymes.

It is very dirt like, isn't it.

I just started reading the POP thread (again) and from what I understood, I could use PD w/my starter, no? And I am definately going to pick up some Reuteri when I can afford it How are DS's poops doing since the reuteri? Anything new?

[Annikate]

Hey, speaking of the Reuteri . . .
CAn I use Stonyfield to culture my yogurt? Would that give enough reuteri or do I need to buy a supp too?
<------------------I've been using this smilie an awful lot lately.

[Kundalini-Mama]

Thank you to whomever posted that link to enzymes and mental health. I'll be passing that onto my step brother who is finally starting to listen to me : All his psychotropic meds are killing him and he is trying to get off, but needs help doing so. That link is perfect

I've also just bumped up a thread in questions and suggestions about getting a subforum, if anyone wants to join me :

[JaneS]

Originally Posted by Nolansmum

Jane- I would like to hear your opinion on why BTVC says no bifidus.

I'm just not sure about it... especially with respect to our kids. Because I seem to remember reading that the bifidus dominent EBF babe gradually gets colonized with more lactobacillus as solids are started. This was actually confirmed today when I started reading Erica's great suggestion: Optimal Digestive Health. http://www.gutdoc.org/

It claimed that a child's flora switched to being like an adult in "mid childhood" whatever that means. I wonder if they are supposed to have more bifidus for some reason, for their immune systems to be buffered somewhat for a while?? Is this what "growing out of allergies" or "gut maturation" means?

I don't know. This is all seems to be just guesswork and it drives me nuts!

Elaine said bifidus has a tendancy to overgrow:
http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.i...kb/bifidus.htm

The other issue is that I cannot find a dairy free acidophilus starter for DS's yogurt... so is the fact that he's only been getting L. casei make a difference?

[JaneS]

Originally Posted by MommyofPunkiePie

DD has had blood streaked poop twice. Both times were with diarrhea and they were the last *squirts*, if you will. The first time was at 10.5 months, and the second time was a couple months after that. No diarrhea since. Is this a cause for concern?

I wouldn't worry personally. Sounds like it was more b/c the D. caused the skin of the anus to be irritated? I wouldn't call that "fairly often".

[JaneS]

Originally Posted by Ksenia

My LC strongly disagrees with the range in frequency/colour/consistency that Dr. Gordon says is OK in that link. Most of the people on the Elimination Communication yahoogroup also disagree that pooping once a week is OK as he says. That's why I was looking for more info...

I would too but that's all I know of... meaning green is not normal either too right.