August 3 1/2 YO tribe - Page 8

[majazama]

amy~ I had the thought that perhaps GA is allergic to something she eats on a regular basis, as that can be a reason why they keep wetting the bed after regular PL. I forget where I heard that, but from pictures I've seen of your DD, shes very fair, and probably very sensitive to foods.

just a thought to throw out there.

[tea olive]

jaz, that's an interesting idea, and is worth looking into.
i think staying dry at night is a different ballgame from daytime though. depends on the kid and all that. you sure are blessed with some super girls, and they with you.

again, using the toilet is a skill that eventually comes around. yes, modern times and diapers and such have altered the natural animal original model. but as long as we can manage with what we have, there is no need to be distressed or concerned. they are still very little, even though they seem so big. my kids have always tended to pee more at night in the first years.

right now i'm grateful for any use of the diaper because for at least six months which seemed forever early last year with clay, he outright refused the night diapers but couldn't wake up enough to get to the toilet. for a long time i would just take him if he was tossing and turning and it would be done. after awhile he decided it was a problem so he would simply scream, and then i would carry him to the toilet and he would wake up feeling confused and violated and then would refuse to pee until he would be wet, and then get mad all over again and i would clean him up and change his clothes, all which upset him more, and then i would have to work calming him down and getting him back to bed all over again without waking everyone else, and he would be cranky cranky cos he already needs more sleep than the other two and it is hard to keep him in bed in the morning for the appropriate time.

maybe i didn't handle it as sweetly and perfectly as i could have - he certainly has an acute middle child syndrome and extremely sensitive boy focused aspects to his personality - but i am grateful grateful for the use of the diaper. it works.

if it is so ridiculous or annoying or crazy and a mamma has the will and time to focus much of her energy on this one thing, then certainly there are steps that can be taken to encourage and see what is possible. but i would rather purposely sleep deprive myself with a nice movie occasionally than for attempted everynight pottying.

[Mona]

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY JAZ!!!!!

[Mona]

btw, i stuff to say in response to the threads at hand, but my house is still filled w/ my in law family types.
so, more later.

[Sydnee]

Originally Posted by tea olive

jaz, that's an interesting idea, and is worth looking into.
i think staying dry at night is a different ballgame from daytime though. depends on the kid and all that. you sure are blessed with some super girls, and they with you.

again, using the toilet is a skill that eventually comes around. yes, modern times and diapers and such have altered the natural animal original model. but as long as we can manage with what we have, there is no need to be distressed or concerned. they are still very little, even though they seem so big. my kids have always tended to pee more at night in the first years.

right now i'm grateful for any use of the diaper because for at least six months which seemed forever early last year with clay, he outright refused the night diapers but couldn't wake up enough to get to the toilet. for a long time i would just take him if he was tossing and turning and it would be done. after awhile he decided it was a problem so he would simply scream, and then i would carry him to the toilet and he would wake up feeling confused and violated and then would refuse to pee until he would be wet, and then get mad all over again and i would clean him up and change his clothes, all which upset him more, and then i would have to work calming him down and getting him back to bed all over again without waking everyone else, and he would be cranky cranky cos he already needs more sleep than the other two and it is hard to keep him in bed in the morning for the appropriate time.

maybe i didn't handle it as sweetly and perfectly as i could have - he certainly has an acute middle child syndrome and extremely sensitive boy focused aspects to his personality - but i am grateful grateful for the use of the diaper. it works.

if it is so ridiculous or annoying or crazy and a mamma has the will and time to focus much of her energy on this one thing, then certainly there are steps that can be taken to encourage and see what is possible. but i would rather purposely sleep deprive myself with a nice movie occasionally than for attempted everynight pottying.

Amen!! And, fwiw, Emma is the middle child too, and VERY sensitive. She's done well the past couple of days, she's been pooping and peeing in the toilet, with a couple accidents here and there. I'm just not going to stress about it anymore.

[DecemberSun]

You're a quarter of a century old, Jaz!

[MamaFern]

HAPPY BIRhDAY JAZZA! : sorry we missed it!
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we love you!!!

[majazama]

Awww, thanks! youre all so sweet. Here I am sipping :

(And on the topic of PL, I do agree that night time is different ballgame than daytime. What I do is take H to the potty right before bed, that's it. She was using diapers at night up till 3 yo. I started leaving her without the dipe at night, and for sure, she wet a lot, but I had the bed well protected, and she wanted to go without dipes. She wanted to be a big girl too, like in all the potty-learning books we read to her, and like mommy, and daddy. Now she wets the bed occationally, but usually if I give her something to drink right before bed.)

So, in conclusion.... I'm so happy that my girls don't use dipes anymore.

[tea olive]

well, the good thing about the potty discussion is that is got the thread really rolling. so now what are we gonna talk about?

[majazama]

whens you b-day, virgo casina?

[cheenya]

Hi all, I'm up with a sick baby and just subscribing to this thread. DD is just over 3.5, so I'm looking forward to visiting/reading more

[eilonwy]

Jaz, sorry I missed your birthday! How was it?

My brother's birthday is next week. When we were kids, this was a big deal because we're the same age for 6.5 weeks. Today, it just means that neither of us forgets the other's birthday (not that we ever did).

BeanBean very much wants to do cyberschool like his cousins. Part of me thinks this would be a fabulous idea, and part of me thinks that it would be a terrible idea, that homeschooling is much, much better. I guess I'm picky, but I see a difference between the two. Anyway, it's all moot for at least two years, and probably more like five because of Bean's November birthday.

[majazama]

oh, it was fantastic. All by myself, I loved it. My mom gave me some shampoo/conditioner, "holey soles" shoes, some beautiful silk yarn, and a shirt. that was my only present. I got some phone calls too, and some emails. It was pretty quiet otherwise. I made chocolate cake, with chocolate icing, my fave, and I lit and blew out my own candles. The grrls loved that. we had heavenly hash ice cream with the cake as well ... my kids are slightly partial to ice cream.

I saw a sign up at the local bulletin board for border collie puppies for sale.... and I've been trying to reach them. I think a border collie would be the best dog for us. But I don't know for sure if I have the energy for it. I will have to throw the I-Ching before making any final decisions, that's for sure.

rynna~ What is cyberschool? never heard of that. I just found out about this thing called wondertree, but it's based in B.C., canada. I was concerned about the requirements for b.c. homeschoolers, but I started a thread here on the homeschooling forum, that put my worries to rest. gotta love MDC. So the person who responded does the wondertree program, and it looks really cool, check it out.

[saritasmile]

Hola! As per razi's request, I made him a new pillowcase w/ clifford on it. we don't watch clifford but he loves him anyway. I thought it turned out pretty good. That was the most involved applique I've ever done.

Razi has really been into tools and 'working' with them lately. He put the bell on his bike all by himself w/ a screwdriver and took one off his scooter and put that one on his bike too (one on each side). Then he says: "Look dad, I have 2 bells, incase 2 people are in my way!" He's also hammered a bunch of nails into the side of the house and screwed some screws into the jade plant. We got him that little play kitchen (that he never uses) and now I wish I had gotten him some cool little work bench or something instead. oh well.

So what's everyone else's dc really into right now?

[saritasmile]

Jaz, your birthday sounds so sweet and now I really want cake and ice cream!

Mona, the only thing I know about fish is that if you over feed them, they die. Razi looooves to feed fish so I've decided fish aren't for us, lol.

[Daffodil]

I used to have a border collie - she died a couple of years ago. I love their energy and intensity, and how they look at you and listen to you in a way most other dogs don't. I hope to have another one someday, but I definitely don't have the time to keep a border collie entertained right now.

[DecemberSun]

Cool pillowcase, Sarita! And I loved Razi's comment about his bells, hee hee.

DH took the kids to play miniature golf and they LOVED it. So, Zach's new thing when he's mad at Julianna is to yell "Fine, you're not goin' to Golfland!" It makes her so angry,it's too funny.

My kids are really into their kitchen right now. Actually, they're more into the play food, tea sets, pots and pans, etc. They set up "picnics" and "restaurants" almost daily. We have a wicker basket overflowing with kitchen toys and I have been trying to think of ways to better organize all the toys so my living room doesn't look so chaotic and cluttered. They also love to diaper and undiaper their babies, so I'm going to buy them some doll diapers with velcro so they don't rip my snaps off before the new baby comes! If anyone thinks they can make me a few cheap doll diapers, let me know!

After 5 weeks of my non-stop hangover feeling, I finally have enough energy to clean my house, so that's what I did this weekend. Obviously I hate the actual work of it, but I LOVE the feeling of accomplishment when I'm done. I love looking around at a clean, organized room. It doesn't stay organized for long, but at least it'll be clean for a few days...

Kaylee has a visit scheduled with her mom on Wednesday. The parent aid who set it up hasn't even gotten ahold of her mom yet, so I'll believe it when I see it. I am making them come over here- I wasn't about to offer to drive across town (Phoenix is big!) with all four kids while DH is at work so Kaylee can see this lady who she doesn't even know. Her mom is 17 and just had her second baby in June... So I'd be amazed if she works hard to get custody of Kaylee.


Oh, and my mom offered to watch all four kids for a weekend so DH and I could get away!!! I was so amazed at her offer that I shrugged it off, but the more I've been thinking of it the more I want to do it! I don't even care what happens while I'm gone as long as I'm GONE, YK? DH wants to go to Vegas (he wants to stay at the Alladin and try to meet Criss Angel), but I just want to go camping. Maybe camping in Vegas? LOL.

Good night, Mamas...

[majazama]

sarita~ nice work. I hope to be sewing soon, once the summer winds down a bit.

leah~ "Fine, you're not goin' to Golfland!" I think you should take the break. You know it will be a lot harder once the baby comes. This is your last chance.

What do my girls do during the day?...... go outside and play in their little pool with a sprinkle nozzle on it, take all their clothes off, and scream like crazy people, chase the cats, play in the sand, make messes for mommy to clean up, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, haeven likes to "read" sometimes these days (too cute), water the plants, they both love playing with water in the sink, having a bath at night, they usually watch cartoons in the morning (H more than S), so I can get some more sleep, but I usually end up getting up at 9 :30, anyways.

they like going for walks, sitting in their strollers, going to the ice cream store (where I work). There is horses next door right now, as of last friday, so they like to go see them, and hang out with them. I think they are a mother and son, so it's cute seeing them together, snuggling, and she protects him, even though he is about the same size as her.

so, bottom line, we spend a lot of time enjoying nature. Samaya, has actually been asking me to get her a bike (she's just 2!!), so I think I will buy them a tricycle to rip up the lawn with

[MamaFern]

Originally Posted by saritasmile

So what's everyone else's dc really into right now?

elwynn is totally into lego.. building cars..monster trucks..fire trucks..ect..ect.
he also is discovering his artistic side. he loves drawing..on anything with anything (not walls fortunatly) especially the above mentioned wheeled vehicles. he actually is getting less interested in cars and more into playing with my foster sisters dolls (barbies and others...) its weird because if ngaio wanted to play with barbies i would be TOTALLY against it but because he is a boy i like it. ill have to figure that one out. i dont like how sexualised they are and i prefer him to play with ones that look more like human beings, but he doesnt see them that way(the way i do) so i dont want to create a problem that isnt there..
we have a trampoline in the backyard and a swing set and a play pool and all of those things take up a lot of his daylight hours. oh and baking! he loves mixing and breaking eggs.

[tea olive]

hey!
me birthday is september 17th. 1970. am i SOOO virgo after all? i certainly dint mean to interfere with all the birthday party! :

cyberschooling is schooling through the computer. some is publicly funded so it is following the same criteria and similar curricula as public school. i have heard there are some neat resources out there for homeschoolers, which would be great for supplementation. i feel one of the basic tenets of learning at home is to work at the child's level, and to learn/play what suits or interests the child, so the essential implication of cyberschooling is not the same.

my boys both are very computer savvy, and i have to say that the main problem with it, is the instant gratification. i have to be thankful that my very verbal reed has gained oodles of visual ability due to the computer, and i feel there is a balance to be found in this world, but computers sure make us impatient and expect wonders and flash on an unnatural basis.

ruby has declared herself the little chef. she is also pathologically cleaning. this is new territory that tests my patience regardless of how wonderful it is potentially. i'm realizing that many aspects of the chores i am a control freak not so much about how it gets done, but that it is part of my identity - YIKES! so yes, really working on changing That......

she continues to be keen on papercraft, practice letters, nag, beg for nail polish and nail files, play with her soft animal buddies, follow all of us around. she loves hide and seek. yesterday she asked for a needle and thread. i'm having a hard time going fast enough for her. i think when i figure it out, she could make breakfast and clean up every morning. the guy who sold chickens at the farmer's market used to tell me all about his 4y daughter - how she could feed the right types and amount of scratch for his many varieties of chickens without prompting, and have breakfast for the family every morning, etc etc. i believed him but it was astonishing and slightly nauseating compared to my own reed 4 at the time. there is no possible age i could possibly expect him to make breakfast everyday with the interest and pleasure she naturally has. she is just so self-starting and independently improvises. so now i have that kind of child, and i know all the stuff that comes with that! evil princess traits!