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post #81 of 240
no I don't care. I'd care if s/h became a republican though . . .
post #82 of 240
I am an atheist, and my partner is agnostic (he doesn't believe but really doesn't care to think about it either way). I hope that my kids will be atheists themselves, or at least agnostic.

My 3.5 year old already knows that I don't believe in god, and religion will be something we discuss often as the kids are growing up.

It drives me crazy when people assume that we believe and talk about god as if s/he's real to us.
post #83 of 240
My preference is that my daughter would believe that there is no god. I have found over the years that when people close to be believe in god, it creates a barrier between us. If I have a problem, they want to bring religion into the equation. It just would be easier if she were atheist like me.
post #84 of 240
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Originally Posted by Kidzaplenty
I guess I am in the minority here. But I do care whether my children believe in God.

I am a Christian. I want my children to be Christian. I totally believe that Jesus is the Son of God and that He is the only way for us to get to Heaven. I also believe that it is my job to train my children up in this belief. I also teach them that the that although we love everyone, and that we are not better than anyone else, we are right in our beliefs. And it is our ministry to teach others of Jesus.

I teach my children that every moment of every day, every action that we take should bring glory to God. And that we are our happiest when we please Him.

So, yes, I do VERY much care whether or not they believe. I make no appologies or excuses. This is our belief and this is how we will raise our children to believe.
Amen mama!! I completely agree. I care very much that my children believe in God, but also, I believe there is only so much I can do, and the rest is up to them. And God
post #85 of 240
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Originally Posted by Kidzaplenty
I guess I am in the minority here. But I do care whether my children believe in God.

I am a Christian. I want my children to be Christian. I totally believe that Jesus is the Son of God and that He is the only way for us to get to Heaven. I also believe that it is my job to train my children up in this belief. I also teach them that the that although we love everyone, and that we are not better than anyone else, we are right in our beliefs. And it is our ministry to teach others of Jesus.

I teach my children that every moment of every day, every action that we take should bring glory to God. And that we are our happiest when we please Him.

So, yes, I do VERY much care whether or not they believe. I make no appologies or excuses. This is our belief and this is how we will raise our children to believe.
Yup, exactly what she said.

I would be terrified if my child rejected God...it would mean he would go to Hell and I just don't want to fathom that...
post #86 of 240
Its VERY important to me because faith is important to me. I want my children to have that in their lives and I want them to have all the gifts that go with it.
post #87 of 240
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Originally Posted by JamesMama
Yup, exactly what she said.

I would be terrified if my child rejected God...it would mean he would go to Hell and I just don't want to fathom that...
Yeah, that's not what I want my daughter to believe, that there is a god that roasts people in hell for not believing in such a god.
post #88 of 240
So many "Christians" have given Christianity a very bad name. It is such a shame that our God of Love has been turned into such an evil punishing god in the eyes of so many.

It is because we have failed to show the world how loving and wonderful He is, and instead we have shown the world every bad trait that we can think of with all our fighting, bickering, and back stabbing. Sometimes it shames me to be in the same catagory with so many so called Christians.

Because the God that I serve has no desire to roast people in hell for not believing in Him. However, He created the world for His pleasure. And He sent His only Son to show us the way back to Him once WE walked away. We made that choice to be on the hell side, not Him, and we have the opportunity to change sides by only asking. I think it is very loving of Him to give us the opportunity of a second chance when we don't deserve it.

Sorry, I don't mean to get "preachy" or anything, but with so much pain and saddness in the world, and me knowing that if only people REALLY knew who Jesus was, life would be so much better, it really saddens me to think of all the "Christians" that give my God such a bad name.

OK, I'll step off my soap box now!
post #89 of 240
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Originally Posted by RubyWild
Yeah, that's not what I want my daughter to believe, that there is a god that roasts people in hell for not believing in such a god.
Exactly. I would be really sad if my children thought that way.
post #90 of 240
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Originally Posted by RubyWild
Yeah, that's not what I want my daughter to believe, that there is a god that roasts people in hell for not believing in such a god.
I totally agree with you as well. It would sadden me to no end if my children lived in fear based on any religion.
post #91 of 240
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Originally Posted by tayndrewsmama
I totally agree with you as well. It would sadden me to no end if my children lived in fear based on any religion.
Yes. Regarding religion, this is my only real fear.
post #92 of 240
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Originally Posted by Kidzaplenty
I think it is very loving of Him to give us the opportunity of a second chance when we don't deserve it.
See, your take on it is just as disturbing to me, that there is this god that would need for a man to sacrifice himself so cruelly so that others could have the possibility of forgiveness. That seems like a cruel god.

The bible, the new testament actually clearly states that 1) humans are by nature sinners, 2) the wages of sin are death, 3) those who do not know god and follow the gospel of Jesus will be punished with everlasting destruction 4) Christ died for our sins and we must individually accept this and him in order to be saved. What are we being saved from other than a cruel god?

Yeah, I was a devout Christian. I obviously no longer am, for obvious reasons, which is why I do not want that for my daughter.
post #93 of 240
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Originally Posted by RubyWild
See, your take on it is just as disturbing to me, that there is this god that would need for a man to sacrifice himself so cruelly so that others could have the possibility of forgiveness. That seems like a cruel god.

The bible, the new testament actually clearly states that 1) humans are by nature sinners, 2) the wages of sin are death, 3) those who do not know god and follow the gospel of Jesus will be punished with everlasting destruction 4) Christ died for our sins and we must individually accept this and him in order to be saved. What are we being saved from other than a cruel god?

Yeah, I was a devout Christian. I obviously no longer am, for obvious reasons, which is why I do not want that for my daughter.
You see, I guess it depends on how you look at it.

The way I see it is like this. We are already condemned, by OUR own actions. Yes, by nature we are sinners. So without any help we are destined to die and go to hell (the payment of sin is death). But my God sent His only Son to us to lead us back to Him. MAN tortured and killed him. But because of His sacrific, His blood in ALLOWING man to kill him, He paid the debt for sin, which by it's very nature HAD to be in blood.

Now my God is standing there, holding out His hand to me, asking me to come to Him, as I slip down the slippery slope to hell that I was born on. And I have to make the choice, do I reach out and grab His hand and be lifted out of the mess that I am in, or do I continue with my own way, which has only one destination.

When I see how loving my God is and blessed I am that He has given me that second, third, fouth, and more chances, all I can do is wonder in awe as He stands there trying to help us and we continually reject Him.

I have seen no god more compassionate and loving, and less cruel, than my God. Yes, He ALLOWED man to kill His only Son, but He allowed that only because He was unwilling to just allow US to be condemned. He loved us so much that He willingly allowed it so that I would not have to be condemned.

I don't believe in a "religion" out of fear, but I believe in my God out of awe and wonder, knowing that He would give His best just so that I can be "saved" from the slippy slope I was on and can come and live with Him. Just to be in His presence is a privilage, but to be able to call Him Father, now that is awsome!
post #94 of 240
You know, as an extremely leftist, crunchy, *jesus was a hippy* Christian --- I find it is hard to fit in anywhere sometimes I certainly would NOT fit in with the conservative/fundie/republican crowd to ANY degree (they would probably physically harm me).... but when I tell *crunchy* people I am Christian, I see them slowly backing away, terrified looks in their eyes before I explain myself.

I am A Christian who chooses Jesus as MY personal savior, not yours, not anyone else's -- that is for them to decide or not. I try to walk with love, I don't care what you do in your bedroom or who you want to marry. I recognize every woman's body as her own and will stand up for her right of choice over matters involving her body. I don't care who gets married as long as it is two consenting adults. I ABSOLUTELY DETEST PRESIDENT BUSH and probably every.single.one. of his beliefs and policies....

...but, I am still a Christian. I reject most *organized* religion because I think that spirituality is such a personal and unique thing and my relationship with God (as I believe God to be) is unlike yours, or his, or hers, or anyone elses.

I also subscribe to the belief that *all paths lead to God* in the sense that if one is pure of heart and devoted to their God as they believe God to be, even if God is nature, or whoever, then they are walking with God.

I study the Buddhism philosophy as well.

The point of this whole novel is that I don't care if my daughter believes in *my* God or not -- but I do think faith is really important --- I will keep our home and minds open to any path which walks in love, and believes in treating everyone as you/they wish to be treated. Any path which is based in kindness and in respect for self and for others and their choices. My personal belief and choice as Jesus as my savior is just that, a personal belief.

....I would though, go mental if she became a conservative republican You're on your own there kiddo.
post #95 of 240
Beautiful, well written post. To see Jesus in such a way is a blessing.

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Originally Posted by captain crunchy

....I would though, go mental if she became a conservative republican You're on your own there kiddo.

Amen.
post #96 of 240
Yes, I would be sad if my DD didn't believe in God. We are not Christian, or Jewish, or any major (or minor) organized religion, and I disagree with every single one of them out there but I completely 100% believe in GOD. I will raise her to simply believe that God is within her, and all of us, regardless of religion or lack thereof, and that God is love, and she can never be alone because of that. I do believe that there are different realms of the afterlife but that it's a reflection of each soul's own torment what type of hell they are in, and that anyone can go to God any time they want even in the deepest depths of "hell" just by asking. My beliefs are based on near-death experiences- people who have actually died and returned. The vast, vast majority of them come back knowing there is no one right religion regardless of their beliefs before dying. God is Love. If love exists, god exists.

JMHO. I never talk about this in real life b/c people would look at me like I have 10 heads. It's tough being outside an accepted form of faith! oh well.
post #97 of 240
When my son is old enough to understand religion and what not i will allow him to choose whether or not he wants to believe or not to believe.
I believe in G-D however, i am not an avid church goer, I don't read the bible, and i don't pray everynight before bed.
I would never make him believe anything he didn't want to , or force him to go to church like my family did to me.
post #98 of 240
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Originally Posted by UnschoolnMa
Beautiful, well written post. To see Jesus in such a way is a blessing.
: aw shucks

*sings* come on people now, smile on your brooother everybody get togettherrrr try to loooveee one anotherrrr righttt nowwww....
post #99 of 240
If my child did not believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster, I would be crushed, like the red pepper flakes on your pizza. Then, I would send other pirates over to help bring her back into the light, delivering orzo, penne, fettucini, and angel hair pasta until she realized the error of her ways. Man cannot live on meat sauce alone.

Seriously, I wouldn't care if she were or were not any religion. We are not religious past the occasional UU attendance, but we have friends of many different religions and she's been to church. I wouldn't mind if she were a nice mainline church type of christianity. I would be sad if she were a member of a very conservative, evangelical, literalist congregation that was hateful towards other religions/denominations, gay people, or evolution. Like my brother. We don't have a whole lot to talk about: it's either my sinful nature...or...my sinning ways...or....my lack of a personal relationship with our lord and savior, jesus christ.

I did have a very fiery left-wing Marxist teacher whose child ended up being an evangelical right-wing believer. So I think it's important not to model narrow-mindedness, lest you get bitten by it in the end, in a way you didn't expect...
post #100 of 240
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Originally Posted by RubyWild
See, your take on it is just as disturbing to me, that there is this god that would need for a man to sacrifice himself so cruelly so that others could have the possibility of forgiveness. That seems like a cruel god.

The bible, the new testament actually clearly states that 1) humans are by nature sinners, 2) the wages of sin are death, 3) those who do not know god and follow the gospel of Jesus will be punished with everlasting destruction 4) Christ died for our sins and we must individually accept this and him in order to be saved. What are we being saved from other than a cruel god?

Yeah, I was a devout Christian. I obviously no longer am, for obvious reasons, which is why I do not want that for my daughter.
This is EXACTLY how I feel about Christianity. I, too, was a devout Christian for many years until I "woke up."

As for what beliefs our DD will have when she is older... well, I'm hoping she'll show ME the way. We're trying to raise her as free from dogma and propaganda as possible, and trying to help her be free from the need to please and the need to spend her adulthood pursuing unmet childhood needs, and maybe in this way, she will have a clearer vision of the truth than I ever could.
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