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Poll Results: Do you rescue or buy

 
  • 78% (67)
    rescue from shelter or rescue group
  • 14% (12)
    buy from a breeder
  • 7% (6)
    other-please explain
85 Total Votes  
post #81 of 89
Joanna, the chips are easy to do yourself, the advantage if you do them is that you technically own the chip so the buyer cannot remove you from the contact list without your permission.
post #82 of 89
I voted other because I think rescues and shelters are a great choice- but only for the right people/family. Most people don't have the knowledge or the time or $ to work with any potential issues a shelter/rescue dog may have. I know not all dogs from those sources have issues but many do and when picking one of these animals its very potluck. You probably don't know much history or breeding info about the dog- many times you aren't completely sure what breed/s of dog your getting. If I'm getting a dog for a family animal I want to know about the temperaments of their parents, littermates, etc because that is one of the best predictors of their temperate. Is that 100% reliable every time? No but it way better than having no background and info to go on at all.

That being said I've own "mutts" before but they have always been acquired from litters that were accidental. However I got them from the owners and was able to see the "background" these pups came from.

On a slightly OT issue I am a horse breeder and in any animal related business there are always going to be breeders who favor quantity over quality. Don't vilify responsible breeders who take their job very seriously. In the horse world we have our own "puppymills" the Thoroghbred racing industry- but even then there are fabulous TB breeders who take responsiblity for the animals they breed even long after they have left their farms. The industry itself is tried to help the issue of over breeding and expendable horses by starting and helping TB adoption programs.

In Europe there are many countries where horse breeding is controled at different levels by the goverment. Does this lessen the amount of horses bred? Nope. People just breed more of the expensive horses that the common folk can't afford.
post #83 of 89
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Originally Posted by shannon0218
Joanna, the chips are easy to do yourself, the advantage if you do them is that you technically own the chip so the buyer cannot remove you from the contact list without your permission.
What brand do you use? One of the things that's always turned me off from doing it myself is the Avid/Home Again/foreign-made chips/scanners so that no one scanner can read all chips and no one chip can be read by all scanners.

I have to admit that it's often $$ as well; it would cost me about $22 per puppy to do them myself and register them, so a couple hundred for a litter--by the time they're eight weeks old, it's been nothing but outgo for a year and I have to cough up $250-300 for the vet checks as well. Even pennies hurt at that point.
post #84 of 89
Yeah, see in Canada we have universal scanners now, they're more expensive but the company that developed them donated one unit to each shelter/animal control.
We also have a canada wide database. It is run for free by Pet Care insurance, no charges to the owners, no obligations. They've done a REALLY good job with it too. I was skeptical at first but they have exceeded my expectations big time!
Most here use the pet safe chip (thats what we use) The major outlay for us was the cost of buying the equipment, we buy our chips for $6.00 a piece. Of course with the chip we don't bother to tatoo.
post #85 of 89
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Originally Posted by shannon0218
Yeah, see in Canada we have universal scanners now, they're more expensive but the company that developed them donated one unit to each shelter/animal control.
We also have a canada wide database. It is run for free by Pet Care insurance, no charges to the owners, no obligations. They've done a REALLY good job with it too. I was skeptical at first but they have exceeded my expectations big time!
Most here use the pet safe chip (thats what we use) The major outlay for us was the cost of buying the equipment, we buy our chips for $6.00 a piece. Of course with the chip we don't bother to tatoo.
My mom did both with her dogs. chipped and tatooed, because she sold to Americans and Canadians both. The Tatoo was so the American breeders could recognize her stock, without having to look for the right chip reader, and Chips in case the dogs wound up in the pound or lost or whathave you. It's ALOT easyer than tossing a Pei on it's back that's for sure..

Hey Shannon, You might know some of my mom's stock.
post #86 of 89
Where did she breed Chelsae??
post #87 of 89
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Originally Posted by shannon0218
Where did she breed Chelsae??
New Brunswick/NovaScotia/Hamilton.

Some of her stock is in Woodstock ON right now, as foundation for the Pei kennel out that way. Luv N Folds Kennels. Her name is pretty much mud now thanks to my sister (sister never sent out registration papers), hence why she got out of breeding. Gerry is carrying on the legacy thru Tu-Chin and Ondulee...and their offspring. Just whelped a litter this spring acctually and they have tons of Reds and red dilutes...

Gerry always includes the kennel name "Luv N Folds" in his dogs so if you've been to shows over the past few years and noticed Sharpei you've prolly seen some of my mom's dogs (at least their descendants)
post #88 of 89
I'm trying to remember the name of the woman who bred shar peis that used to come to our school. Her daughter's name is Nicole and I'd say she'd be about 30ish now, maybe closer to 35 but this woman recently passed away from I think lung cancer. Nicole is actually working with Sheena now doing group classes.

Oh, I remember his name is Herb, oh, just remembered it, Herb and Colleen, not sure on the last name though, they had some nice shar peis.
post #89 of 89
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Originally Posted by shannon0218
I'm trying to remember the name of the woman who bred shar peis that used to come to our school. Her daughter's name is Nicole and I'd say she'd be about 30ish now, maybe closer to 35 but this woman recently passed away from I think lung cancer. Nicole is actually working with Sheena now doing group classes.

Oh, I remember his name is Herb, oh, just remembered it, Herb and Colleen, not sure on the last name though, they had some nice shar peis.
Yeah I heard of them They had Stimpy at the pet expo down at the Arrow center last summer. Gawd Stimpy was a big mush! Let my DD manhandle his squishy face and everything.

My mom started her breeding career out this way (BC) then kept it going through each move. Gerry Bragg is the one who owns her dogs out in Woodstock..and is continuing her line despite her name being not that good anymore


My DD told my DH yesterday that "I want a Big Black Wrinkly dog and his name is going to be Zack!" *sigh* Guess I gotta hit up the lines again eh? DH likes *little* dogs, I like Med-Lg sized dogs...Might see if I can hit Joan Shirliker up for one of her mini-peis as a compromise. AFTER the baby is born and grown up a little that is. It's be dumb of me to get a dog at this point in the game..no fenced yard...baby on the way...Oy...Heck I wouldn't even start a fish tank right now! our poor budgie is getting ignored too.
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