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post #61 of 97
OMG. That is child abuse! I'm sorry, but even though peds tell you that at 6 months a child doesn't "need" to nurse & can "sleep through the night" without waking or taking any food, putting your child in the domestic equivalent of the DUNGEON so that you don't have to hear his/her hungry and/or frightened cries is just wrong in so many ways.
post #62 of 97
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Originally Posted by Selesai
I actually think this abusive and should be reported. What if the baby were sick? And he needs to eat and be changed during the night regardless.
Could she have ppd? How old is the baby? She may need help.
post #63 of 97
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Originally Posted by SugarAndSun
Could she have ppd? How old is the baby? She may need help.
No I don't think that is it. She doesn't have ppd. Her baby is 6 months. I think this is a run in the family type thing, her sister and husband were letting their baby CIO at 6 weeks. So that is where I think she is getting some of her advice. I think she just wants her sleep and that is all that matters. I know it is really sad.
post #64 of 97
that brought tears to my eyes. poor little baby.
post #65 of 97
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post #66 of 97
i knew a couple that moved theri baby into a closet because she would get out of bed and come want to nurse.. than she figured out how to open the closet door so they put a chair in front of it

these poor babies!
post #67 of 97
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i knew a couple that moved theri baby into a closet because she would get out of bed and come want to nurse..
I watched a House Hunters (HGTV) episode where the closet was the baby's room too. There was a playpen at the back and this was a small skinny closet. Very sad.
post #68 of 97
I could never imagine doing this to a child..... wouldn't something inside of you scream that it was wrong?
post #69 of 97
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Originally Posted by JeDeeLenae
I watched a House Hunters (HGTV) episode where the closet was the baby's room too. There was a playpen at the back and this was a small skinny closet. Very sad.
I see nothing wrong with this for an older child to have a space of their own in a larger family. Just so long as any locks are on the *inside*. For a baby, well, that's just silly, babies should be in their parent's room.
post #70 of 97
I would call CPS if I was in your position...you can call anonimously (sp!) and then it's their decision if its abuse or not.
I'va called them on an old friend of mine and they visited her and didn't find anything, but I felt better, because at least the situation got checked out.

Dawn
post #71 of 97
something obviously needs to happen here, for that poor baby's ske, but i just wanted to ask, has anyone actually ever seen cps do a single good for anyone? i mean, i'm sure there's some crackhead somewhere whose kids don't miss her(most likely because cps doesn't do anything and they're still living there) (a joke). in my state more kids are snatched by cps per capita than any state in the us (nebraska), and the governor and cps are under multiple lawsuits for the abuse kids suffer in the foster care system. my g-ma said she worked for foster care for hhs for like 2 years before she had to quit because of what she was seeing. the last straw for her was when a 13 yo girl was raped by her foster father.... obviously this doesn't happen every single time, and it kind of sh*ts on the options for the baby we are talking about.... the treat of calling cps might be good, if it gets the parents into therapy or something.
post #72 of 97


It's already been said, but how can you give birth to a precious, innocent child, and then put him or her in the basement!?!?!? I'm so sad for that baby. It's bad enough that the kid's needs for affection/comfort/clean diaper/food/security are going completely ignored. But what if the poor thing was sick or hurt? Duh, babies cry because we're SUPPOSED to take care of them. And they don't come with time cards that we can punch out at 7 p.m. when we're done with them!!!
post #73 of 97
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Originally Posted by amwww
something obviously needs to happen here, for that poor baby's ske, but i just wanted to ask, has anyone actually ever seen cps do a single good for anyone? i mean, i'm sure there's some crackhead somewhere whose kids don't miss her(most likely because cps doesn't do anything and they're still living there) (a joke). in my state more kids are snatched by cps per capita than any state in the us (nebraska), and the governor and cps are under multiple lawsuits for the abuse kids suffer in the foster care system. my g-ma said she worked for foster care for hhs for like 2 years before she had to quit because of what she was seeing. the last straw for her was when a 13 yo girl was raped by her foster father.... obviously this doesn't happen every single time, and it kind of sh*ts on the options for the baby we are talking about.... the treat of calling cps might be good, if it gets the parents into therapy or something.
From what I've heard, I think cps is a little different here in Canada.
post #74 of 97
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Originally Posted by sapphire_chan
I see nothing wrong with this for an older child to have a space of their own in a larger family. Just so long as any locks are on the *inside*. For a baby, well, that's just silly, babies should be in their parent's room.
This baby was about 6 mos old and an only child. The parents had a HUGE bedroom with plenty of room, then they cut to a little closet with a playpen and clothes in it. It was sad.
post #75 of 97
That is so horrible.

Apparently, when my dad was a baby his dad was away at war and he was home with my grandma. When my grandad came home he didn't like my grandma feeding him at night anymore so they left my dad to cry in a crib in another room all night long. My poor grandma had to listen to it but her husband wouldn't let her resond to the crying. My dad thinks he is a "loser" because of it, and he blames that experience on his lack of confidence (my dad is NOT a loser, but you couldn't convince him of that)

When my mum told me I was so upset, I didn't realise people could actually do that. Doesn't a person's protective instinct take over? : : :
post #76 of 97
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Originally Posted by Ivan's Mom
The more I think of this, the worse I feel for that baby. I have talked about it with my mom and my husband. We really think these people need to be reported to the child protection services. What if the baby strangled or the crib collapsed and crushed her.....or anything really. It is not right and I feel it is our duty to speak for the voiceless and protect the defenseless.

How dare these people do this.

They should be sterilized and they make me want to :Puke
Then report them... no harm can come of it. But to only talk about it with other people isn't helping that baby... or those people come to think of it. They obviously need parenting help and I think you would be doing them a favor by reporting this behavior. It is your responsibility as a person to doing something to stop this neglectful and hurtful cycle.

And in repsonse to PP asking if CPS has ever really done anything to help, yes. I have a friend who was always yelling at her children and smacking them.. her husband had left her with three kids under 5... I called CPS after my friend would't listen to me... they did not take the children, rather, my friend recieved counseling and parenting classes... and a "helper" (thats what the kids thought the social worker was) came by once a week, unannouced to check in. It is not the goal of CPS to rip apart families and "snatch" children... but to create more cohesive family units... and I think thats something everyone here can be on board with.
post #77 of 97
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Originally Posted by freya6903
That is so horrible.

Apparently, when my dad was a baby his dad was away at war and he was home with my grandma. When my grandad came home he didn't like my grandma feeding him at night anymore so they left my dad to cry in a crib in another room all night long. My poor grandma had to listen to it but her husband wouldn't let her resond to the crying. My dad thinks he is a "loser" because of it, and he blames that experience on his lack of confidence (my dad is NOT a loser, but you couldn't convince him of that)

When my mum told me I was so upset, I didn't realise people could actually do that. Doesn't a person's protective instinct take over? : : :
If that were my husband, he'd be out in the shed with divorce papers! :
HA! I'd lovvveee to have someone try to stop me from responding to a crying baby! Not on your life, buster!

And about what those parents are doing to that baby, it borderlines if not is child abuse. I personally consider it abuse, but I'm not sure how state agencies would consider that. Children that young and often still in need of night feedings, as baby's sleep schedules and feed schedules are so different from adults, something some parents an even some peds don't seem to get. Babies need fed on demand, when they are hungry as a general rule. Yes, sometimes there are rare health issues that sometimes are exceptions to that rule (rare obesity and certain metabolism problems) but for a baby that young he needs to be fed. Cutting of the child from important caloric intake could possibly have a very negative effect on the his growth, not to mention his mental development. Also, I believe as a safety precaution sleeping infants always need to be within earshot of a responsible adult. There are just to many variables for them not to be.
post #78 of 97
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Originally Posted by angelpie545
If that were my husband, he'd be out in the shed with divorce papers! :
HA! I'd lovvveee to have someone try to stop me from responding to a crying baby! Not on your life, buster!
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I love my husband, but there is no way he could stop me from responding to my child. Not that he would- he'd probably be there before me- he's a faster runner!
post #79 of 97
I just cant believe people are like that. I could never put my child anywhere that I cant hear them. It was hard enough when my daughter decided she wanted to sleep on the top level of our house. We have a monitor to hear her. We live in an old farm house, that was a duplex, and we reconverted it this year to a single family house. She wanted more room for all her stuff, and a place to kinda get away. We have our play room up there, and a small office etc. Anway, Im getting off topic. How can people want to feel so unconnected to their child. What if something hapened? What if he got too hot or cold? What if he was sick or just wanted someone to hold him?> What if he got hungry? If she wanted to get away, why dont she sleep down there so someone else could tend to his needs? It just saddens me how people can treat their children with such disrespect.
post #80 of 97
This is one of the saddest things I have ever heard... especially with all the other stories about closets, etc.
On a related note, my mom said that my uncle (through marriage) used to be left outside to play as a baby with a playpen turned upside down on top of him like a cage. His parents were abusive and alcoholic. 50+ years later, he is abusive and alcoholic too. So sad.
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