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post #41 of 46
Roar, I started piano at 8 and still pay (not much now, but some). I also played flute from ages 10 - now (was a scholarship musician in college), and I played oboe for 3 years. My mother never nudged me to practice, either, so I don't think that it's necessary for parents to do. I actually think being good at an instrument has to be something the child wants to do, not something the parents are "involved" with beyond support - financial, emotional, physical.
post #42 of 46
Hi,

I would just like to say that it is great to fill your child's day with activities and mostly activities like sport and music or some other activity where a kid can express him or herself. At the end, what counts, is that child is enjoying it.
My parents took me to violin classes and I enjoyed it first 2 years, after that it was suffering for me, my teacher and my parents. Thus it would be better to spent that time at something I loved doing it....
post #43 of 46
I will say that for me, there is a whole spectrum between "child forced to practice for XX minutes every day, hates every second of it, dreads everything to do with classical music" and "child loves to practice, parents completely free of involvement with daily practice" My best friend in high school used to practice the piano with his father sitting next to him; when he hit the wrong key, his father would whack that finger with a ruler. Ghastly.

I can't speak for all Suzuki teachers and the practice of the Suzuki method of talent development in all places and in all times. Like the Montessori method, it can be used in a loving way to develop the whole child, or it can be a cold and unengaging list of rules that are never deviated from. I can speak about my own experiences with my great aunt who was one of the first Suzuki teachers in America, my own experience at workshops and in youth orchestras that were unaffiliated with that pedagogy. And I can speak about the program my daughter's in, and how her teacher is, and what his goals are for children moving through his programs.

I also think that some aspects of life require discipline. I knew plenty of kids, for example, in high school, who wanted to be in the band, but quit due to the practice requirement. They were disappointed afterward. The same is true for other kinds of learning; you may want to be in AP literature, but if you don't complete the summer homework assignment, you won't be let in. Not all parts of learning are fun and enjoyable; you do have to take some lumps with the good. I know that there are musicians who enjoy every moment they have with their music, but I think that saying that every child who doesn't look on practice as an enjoyable activity should be encouraged to quit, that any child who won't practice without encouragement from their parents shouldn't produce music but should be limited to listening to it; that would be a pity.

Each parent provides a different level of discipline and has different requirements for their kid. What I would like to add to the discussion is just my experience that music lessons can be very beneficial to kids, especially gifted kids, who can fall into the trap of seeing the easy completion of every task as somehow inherent to their self-image. And I think it's OK to expect that learning music will sometimes be a struggle, and that sometimes the parent may feel like there's just no motivation there. We keep going anyhow, and we always get back to those good feelings on the other side. Others may disagree; this is just my experience.
post #44 of 46
My son (4 1/2 )has not even been tested for giftedness and he does great at his piano lessons. Since I can remember he would twist his fingers in weird configurations and I always said to him "we have to get you to use that talent for something." Well he started lessons and the teacher says he is grasping concepts that some of her 7year olds don't get. He will play one key at a time, keep the beat/rythm, follow the written music. She said he still has the attention span of a 4yo but she is patient and gets a kick out of him. She is even letting him in the recital because he played his little peice by memory last week.

So if they show intrest or promise, I say go for it!

He loves it and askes if it is wed. so he can go to his lesson. He does better one-on-one and the kinder music classes seemed more like play then learning imo.
post #45 of 46
I am following this thread with interest - and a little trepidation. My 4 yo wants to do Suzuki violin w/me in the fall. I haven't any musical experieince. I worry about her getting in over her head and the whole practice issue.
post #46 of 46
I haven't read all the responses but...

My ds who is now 11 started piano at 4. He was already a very good reader and had no trouble learning to read music. The violin teacher wouldn't take him until much later so he decided he wanted piano. (patience is not one of his virtues.) The only requirement the (retired ps music) teacher had was that he be able to read books. I have never had an issue regarding practice. From the beginning he would explain theory to her, not the other way around. He is still taking lessons (at our local liberal arts college) and enjoys it immensely. His hands are already larger than mine length and size wise so that has never been an issue for him. Music may not be his thing in the long run but this is what worked for him.

9 yo dd started at 4 also, dropped it by her choice this past winter and I have no plans to start 5 yo dd this fall even though she could. It just isn't her thing. I am not saying it is for everybody, just sharing my experience.
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