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post #1 of 13
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This is cross-posted in CAC because it falls under both areas. I was looking at the web page for World Breastfeeding Week and I noticed an ad and a link to the Hollister page. Yes, I understand they make breast pumps (I own an Ameda Purely Yours myself), but they also make the Plastibell circumcision device. The trauma of circumcision is a known facilitator of breastfeeding failure. It makes me sad that LLL would support the manufacturers of such a device.

http://www.lllusa.org/wbw/
LLL's World Breastfeeding Week page.

http://www.hollister.com/us/products...id=4&family=24
Hollister's Plastibell page.
post #2 of 13
I posted contact information in the Case Against Circumcision if anyone is interested in sending an email.

http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=499028
post #3 of 13
Too bad 'mixing causes' doesn't apply to supporting circumcision as well as opposing it.
post #4 of 13
Not that I don't completely understand where you ladies are coming from. I would just like to add a different perspective.

The way I see it is Holister is suporting LLL, LLL is not supporting Holister. They did not refuse a sizeable donation, does not mean they support Holister.

Just sayin'...
post #5 of 13
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By placing Hollister's ad on their page, they are in effect saying "This is a company we like!" I'm sure MDC would make a good amount of money allowing formula ads to be placed on the site like other parenting sites do. However, thankfully, MDC realizes that allowing those ads to be placed insinuates an acceptance of that product and its manufacturer.
post #6 of 13
Hollister sent out fridge magnets on how long expressed breastmilk is good for under certain circumstances for my breastfeeding support bags. I didn't know that they sold circumcision stuff.
post #7 of 13
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Originally Posted by minkajane
By placing Hollister's ad on their page, they are in effect saying "This is a company we like!" I'm sure MDC would make a good amount of money allowing formula ads to be placed on the site like other parenting sites do. However, thankfully, MDC realizes that allowing those ads to be placed insinuates an acceptance of that product and its manufacturer.
Exactly!! Accepting support or sponsorship from a company that produces circumcision devices is not appropriate in my opinion. It's great that they support breastfeeding also, but I would think LLL would be concerned with a group that supports breastfeeding and also genital mutilation. Does't really jive with me.
post #8 of 13
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Originally Posted by firstkid4me
Hollister sent out fridge magnets on how long expressed breastmilk is good for under certain circumstances for my breastfeeding support bags. I didn't know that they sold circumcision stuff.
I didn't either until about a year ago, which explains why I own an Ameda Purely Yours breast pump. I recommended it whole-heartedly until I found out about this. Now I recommend the Medela Pump in Style.
post #9 of 13
I believe LLL has taken a neutral stance on circumcision. They aren't supporters but they won't advocate against it, either.
post #10 of 13
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Originally Posted by sjkmaurice
I believe LLL has taken a neutral stance on circumcision. They aren't supporters but they won't advocate against it, either.
That doesn't mean we can't let them know our feelings on the issue!!
post #11 of 13
from the lll web page:

In the 1981 edition of THE WOMANLY ART OF BREASTFEEDING under a section called "Elective Surgery for You or Your Baby," there was mention of circumcision as well as tubal ligation. However, it was omitted in all subsequent editions because these issues were considered mixing causes. We consider circumcision to be outside the realm of our expertise in La Leche League. Other organizations can do a better job of educating parents about circumcision than LLL. (See reference list below.) Because it is not, in and of itself, a breastfeeding issue, LLLI does not take any position on it, nor does the Board of Directors plan to issue any sort of policy statement about it. We see a distinction between making published statements in LLLI publications distributed worldwide and responding to mothers' concerns in the context of informal discussions at Series Meetings.

This is an important point to bring out at Series Meetings if mothers voice strong opinions on the matter. There are no specific rules about what to say or avoid about circumcision at an LLL Series Meeting. It is natural that this topic might come up as part of a discussion about childbirth decisions and the early days after birth. La Leche League welcomes all mothers who want to breastfeed, regardless of decisions about circumcision - and we rely on Leaders to present material and facilitate discussions with this idea in their minds and hearts. We want parents to be able to hear our message about breastfeeding without being sensitized by other issues. Each Leader knows the sensitivities of the mothers in her Group best. We rely on the Leader to bring the discussion back to the issue of breastfeeding and helping the mother decide what is best for her family.

Sincerely,
Cynthia Sherar
LLLI Board of Directors
Mahtomedi, Minnesota, USA

Judy Minami Western
United States Division,
Professional Liaison Editorial Advisor
Portland, Oregon, USA
post #12 of 13
IS the same Hollister that makes clothes??
post #13 of 13
I thought Hollister was just a brand of clothes for teens. My 17yo stepsister likes them.
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