Partial Vaccinations

[poopzmom]

Is there anyone on here that has vaccinated but only done some of them? If so which ones did you skip? DD has gotten some vaccinations but I am thinking of skipping Prevnar, Chickenpox, and MMR.

[EVC]

We do have some partial vax'ers here.

But let's start with this: which ones DO you think you want and why?

[MsElle07]

I started out thinking I would selectively vax, and then started researching which ones I wanted and which ones I didn't. I ended up realizing that none of the diseases my kids would be vaxed against were scary or generally life threatening in healthy children. Even if my kids were to contract one of the diseases, I researched what would happen and how to treat it. I realized that I was far more afraid of the long-term effects of the vaccines themselves, than of the diseases, which often confer life long immunity and help strengthen the immune system.

For example, the DTaP is quite possibly the MOST dangerous vaccine out there -- there are many documented cases of children who have irreversible and serious brain damage as a result of that shot. So I started researching, what is Diptheria? How does one get it? What are the symptoms? Is it life threatening? You get the idea.

This site is an excellent resource, and I encourage you to research each and every vaccine, the ingredients in it, and what each disease is like before making your decisions.

[3_opihi]

My oldest son is partially vaxed. We ended up stopping the schedule because he had a serious allergic reaction. I have a waiver for all three of my kids, so none of them are vaxed anymore.

[poopzmom]

My dd has gotten everything so far (except I stopped the Prevnar). She is 5 months old. The reason I was going to just do partial is because she has already started the other ones and she seems fine. No reactions whatsoever. The Prevnar she reacted to so I stopped. I am just so afraid of not vaccinating and if something happened I would never be able to live with myself. I know that sounds crazy because tht justification can go either way. I am torn over the whole thing. I can't sleep at night over the vaccinations. There is so much information out there I don't know what is right and what is wrong.

[MsElle07]

The fact that she has not reacted doesn't mean that damage hasn't been done, unfortunately.

Really, you need to start researching the diseases themselves. Most of them are not that bad and are quite hard to catch with proper hygeine. For example, did you have chicken pox as a child? Most likely. Was it annoying? Yes. But were you worried you were going to die? Most likely not.

In normal children, chicken pox is not a deadly disease. So keep researching. Keep reading here.

[MsElle07]

Here are some links for you:

CDC VAERS report, look through some of the reported reactions, and keep in mind that most people do not report reactions. (Did you report to VAERS, BTW?)
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/PDF/ss/ss5201.pdf

Here is some info on deaths from "vaccine preventable diseases" (Keep in mind that this is out of a US population of 290 million:
http://www.fimp.org/tozzi/documenti/...ses_deaths.pdf

Here are the package inserts from the drug company that come with each vaccine. It helps to read them to see what you're actually injecting:
http://www.vaccines.mil/default.aspx...egories&sID=16

[EVC]

Mama, this probably one of the hardest decisions you will ever have to make as a parent, so PLEASE take your time and research it thoroughly.

I am just so afraid of not vaccinating and if something happened I would never be able to live with myself.

It is very normal to feel that way

Start by researching the diseases. Which ones scare you? Why? How common are they and what is the treatment/prognosis?

Keep in mind, that even the CDC admits that the chance of having a vaccine reaction is HIGHER than the chances of catching one of the diseases.

[MsElle07]

For example, using the links I gave you above, you'd be able to see that in 2002, there was ONE reported case of diptheria (and no deaths) and 25 total cases of tetanus (and no deaths), but in 2001, there were more than 5,000 reported adverse reactions to the DTaP vaccine (including a number of deaths).

[illinoismommy]

Hmmm well I haven't decided yet, but the one that concerns me the most is diptheria. Maybe I'll get only that.......... maybe.

[LadyButler]

Originally Posted by illinoismommy

Hmmm well I haven't decided yet, but the one that concerns me the most is diptheria. Maybe I'll get only that.......... maybe.

'course that means getting at least the tetanus as well... if not the full DTaP.
(With all these combo vaxes... it won't be long before Offit's musings about 100,000 vax at once could come to fruition...):
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[MsElle07]

Originally Posted by illinoismommy

Hmmm well I haven't decided yet, but the one that concerns me the most is diptheria. Maybe I'll get only that.......... maybe.

According to the stats, your child is 5,000 times more likely to have a reaction to the DTaP vaccine than they are to catching diptheria.

There was ONE case in the entire US. Who are they going to catch it from?

[illinoismommy]

Originally Posted by LadyButler

'course that means getting at least the tetanus as well... if not the full DTaP.

Are you sure you can't get diptheria separate? Because I read somewhere you could.... its just more difficult, and you probably have to pay more money.

[illinoismommy]

Originally Posted by MsElle07

According to the stats, your child is 5,000 times more likely to have a reaction to the DTaP vaccine than they are to catching diptheria.

There was ONE case in the entire US. Who are they going to catch it from?

When they go to a foreign country, maybe, or maybe after the vaccination rates continue to drop there will be an outbreak. It concerns me... it sounds really nasty, and it could happen.

[MsElle07]

Originally Posted by illinoismommy

When they go to a foreign country, maybe, or maybe after the vaccination rates continue to drop there will be an outbreak. It concerns me... it sounds really nasty, and it could happen.

Diptheria is available in conjunction with the Tetanus shot, DT. But your child is still far more likely to die from the vaccine than from diptheria.

[CorbinsMama]

Originally Posted by EVC

Keep in mind, that even the CDC admits that the chance of having a vaccine reaction is HIGHER than the chances of catching one of the diseases.

I would love a source for this so I could throw it at the bad, bad doctor I saw on Friday. Do you have one?

[LadyButler]

Originally Posted by illinoismommy

When they go to a foreign country, maybe, or maybe after the vaccination rates continue to drop there will be an outbreak. It concerns me... it sounds really nasty, and it could happen.

To be honest, I used to think exactly the same thing. Then I read the CDC's Pink Book... almost all fears out the window.

Between the Pink Book, MT's book, and the actual vax inserts from the manufacturers... I know enough now to know that I will never vax... and I will never worry about not vaxing.

Keep researching. You WILL find a place where you are comfortable and you'll be happy with your decision. (That's a promise... not an order. )

[MsElle07]

Originally Posted by CorbinsMama

I would love a source for this so I could throw it at the bad, bad doctor I saw on Friday. Do you have one?

Yes, look at the links I gave above. One is the VAERS database (Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System, which is maintained by the gov't), and the other shows the CDC's data on the instances and deaths related to "vaccine preventable diseases". Compare the number of cases and deaths vs. the number of severe adverse events and deaths for the vax that is supposed to prevent the disease.

[illinoismommy]

Originally Posted by MsElle07

Diptheria is available in conjunction with the Tetanus shot, DT. But your child is still far more likely to die from the vaccine than from diptheria.

maybe we could discuss this on the thread I started a while ago called "still working this out" since I did ask about diptheria. From what I read it has a 5-10% death rate... that's pretty high. But that's not what this thread is about, its about partial vaccinating and so maybe we could go there, yes? :

[CorbinsMama]

Originally Posted by MsElle07

Yes, look at the links I gave above. One is the VAERS database (Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System, which is maintained by the gov't), and the other shows the CDC's data on the instances and deaths related to "vaccine preventable diseases". Compare the number of cases and deaths vs. the number of severe adverse events and deaths for the vax that is supposed to prevent the disease.

I went and looked more closely at them, and I see it now. Thank you!