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post #21 of 41
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Originally Posted by RiverSky
It advocates spanking, too.

http://www.stoptherod.net/creativecorrection.html


That page had been asking people review her book at Amazon and warn parents from buying it, yet now it seems Amazon has been deleting all those reviews.





Yeah, I think abhorring Lisa Welchel might be well-deserved.
The only book that I"ve read by her was the "So you are thinking about homeschooling " and it was good....however...I'm glad that I haven't spent another dime...
post #22 of 41
Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor was homeschooled on her ranch in AZ using the Calvert curriculum for Kindergarten.
post #23 of 41

Celebrity "Homeschooling" is Different

I have an acquaintance who's triplets have been in a couple of big movies. (Multiples are in demand in Hollywood to share one role - thus they get double the screen time.) Not to say that what they do is inferior or superior - it sounds neat - but what she described to me is not exactly our idea of homeschooling. She, BTW homeschools them part of each school year in California during auditions, and they go to school part of the year.

Essentially, the studio wants the kids on the set, so they hire a full-time tutor (with budget) and get an extra trailor (which becomes the schoolhouse). The mom and tutor did get to talk together about what the kids would learn, but essentially, homeschooling was simply the loophole they used to keep the kids working. They schooled between scenes - and practiced lines. SHe was quite involved so theirs became quite arty and experiential.

They are what I would call tutored. They are stage kids who are sent on multiple auditions. Such children are often told why they didn't get parts, told to dye their hair, lose weight, and such to get roles. (My acquaintance says she did not do this to her girls, but had stories of others.)

The celebrity parents who have homeschooled their own kids have more likely done what we consider to be homeschooling, but in some cases the studio has again hired a tutor and trailer so that the parent would be willing to go to remote locations for shooting scenes. However, this shows that the parent is insisting on being with their children. In some cases, they do really homeschool.

Here's an article, though, where Jada Pinkett Smith talks about how her kids 'belong to a homeschooling program' that allows them to travel with her,' but while she probably has some tutor help, she talks about studying the world religions and the places they visit - sounds SO incredibly cool: Tulsa Today

Lucie
post #24 of 41
I don't consider tutoring on sets homeschooling.

Lisa and Jada and Will are hsers, imo. Whether we agree or not with their methods is something else.
post #25 of 41
Janine Turner (who was Maggie on Northern Exposure) homeschools her daughter. http://www.janineturner.com/journey.html (It's in the last paragraph)
post #26 of 41
this is OT, but i heard that Jada Pinkett went to a Montessori school i worked at when she was a child.
post #27 of 41
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by wonderactivist
Essentially, the studio wants the kids on the set, so they hire a full-time tutor (with budget) and get an extra trailor (which becomes the schoolhouse).
California actually has great laws protecting actor children. My children both did some modelling when they were very young (infants/toddlers) and the law if there are infants under 6 months there needs to be an RN on set...so for the photoshoots that my daughter did where she was the only one so young, there would be an RN there just for her. The RN didn't even touch her, she was just there to make sure the baby looked healthy and wasn't mistreated in the shoot. The law also says that an infant can only work for a max of 30 minutes over a 2 hour visit to the set. There was always a comfy couch area with tons of toys for us to hang out in whenever there was a shoot, plus a full buffet of healthy foods for us. Also, I believe there had to be a registered teacher for every 5 or 10 children, once again, when my 4 1/2 month old was the only one there, there would be an RN and a teacher there, too. LOL. The teacher played with my daughter once with me there but that's it. I think she was just bored.

Anyway, I think that how you use the tutor is probably your choice entirely. You can use the tutor to help your children to whatever, or you can ask the tutor to read them stories the entire time. If a tutor noticed that actor children were completely behind in some way, then I think that the tutor/teacher might report or butt in or whatever, but I think that it would have to be pretty drastic of an issue. Just guessing.

I bet that trailer/school room probably had tons of toys in it, too.
post #28 of 41
It looks like Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt are going to homeschool.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/usatoday/200...oraglobalcause

I think this article is expired. Here's a peice of it though.

From the article:
Jolie says she broke her silence with the media to further her latest cause: educational opportunities for children worldwide.
When she looks at her son Maddox, 4, from Cambodia, and daughter Zahara, 1, from Ethiopia, she says, "I just think, especially my daughter, there's no possible way she would have gone to school. She is so smart and so strong. And her potential as a woman one day is great.
post #29 of 41
I think what Angelina probably means there is that if her daughter had stayed in Ethiopia she would not have been able to go to school, which she considers very unfortunate (and it no doubt is, in the context of third world countries and very poor people), damaging to Zahara's potential. Nothing to do with sending her or not sending her to school in the United States
post #30 of 41
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Do you consider it homeschooling when it is someone other than the parent supervising the schooling?
I do. I'm sharing homeschooling duties with my mom. She works with the kids during the day while I'm at work and I work with them in the evenings. We're mainly unschooling (for now anyway), but DS likes flashcards.
post #31 of 41
Could the "Smiths" be working around being legal? California isn't the most homeschool friendly state...but I think part of that is because they have so many working kids and past history of abuse they are tighter to protect the kids.
post #32 of 41
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Originally Posted by mama_kass
It looks like Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt are going to homeschool.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/usatoday/200...oraglobalcause

I think this article is expired. Here's a peice of it though.

From the article:
Jolie says she broke her silence with the media to further her latest cause: educational opportunities for children worldwide.
When she looks at her son Maddox, 4, from Cambodia, and daughter Zahara, 1, from Ethiopia, she says, "I just think, especially my daughter, there's no possible way she would have gone to school. She is so smart and so strong. And her potential as a woman one day is great.
I think she was just talking about Zahara being a female in Ethiopia which would equal no school and no education. I know her son Maddox goes to school, they show pics of her and Brad picking him up and taking him to school all the time in the celebrity rag mags and stuff.
post #33 of 41
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Originally Posted by 2Sweeties1Angel
I do. I'm sharing homeschooling duties with my mom. She works with the kids during the day while I'm at work and I work with them in the evenings. We're mainly unschooling (for now anyway), but DS likes flashcards.
I do as well. I go to school full time and my mom watches and helps homeschool my girls a LOT. Since when does homeschooling mean that only the parent can homeschool? My kids learn from many people, there is no way that I can teach them everything they need to know.
post #34 of 41
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Originally Posted by Marsupialmom
Could the "Smiths" be working around being legal? California isn't the most homeschool friendly state...but I think part of that is because they have so many working kids and past history of abuse they are tighter to protect the kids.
I homeschooled in CA for many years, and worked as a volunteer for the HomeSchool Assn. of CA most of that time. It was a very friendly state for homeschooling during the whole time I was homeschooling - in spite of having a couple of successive state attorneys that had tried subtly and unsuccessfully to make it otherwise with their interpretations of the law, and they're both gone now. There were a few incidents here and there, from time to time, that involved misinterpretation of the law by isolated officials, but we all got those things quickly straightened out together. There was one case that unfortunately got a lot of publicity a few years ago in which one county was hassling a few homeschoolers - but they couldn't get the district attorney to prosecute because they clearly didn't have a case, so that dissolved. Homeschooling in CA is very simple and hassle-free. My family began with a public program through our local school but soon switched over to establishing our own private school - which only involves filing a simple affidavit once a year and keeping on hand some paperwork that no one ever sees. The myth that CA is not homeschooling friendly is a result of publicity getting overblown about the few high profile hassles that had come about but quickly got resolved. When you hear about someone being hassled, it's generally someone who failed to use (or refused to bother with) one of the simple legal options. Lillian
post #35 of 41
I do think that the Smiths are consciously homeschooling - even if they get help - I wish I could hire a chemist next year!

And I think we should be careful about generalizations of any kind...but I agree with UUMom that someone who is essentially working ther kids and getting a tutor so the kids can audition/work is not really homeschooling - especially if they are not as involved with the educational choices.

My acquaintance is fully involved in the girls' education. I don't think that all stage parents are as focused on the educational aspects as long as the child gets a certified tutor with whom they get along .

(Will someone please define the correct uses of who/whom?)

Anyway, I would very leery of using celebs as role models - my own son chose Sammy Sosa to look up to and well, he still did great charity work and was a great player and possibly set up - who knows - but either way, it wasn't easy when my son got the cork story in the little league dugout.

Best wishes,

Lucie
post #36 of 41
Thanks for clearing things up on Angelina and Brad.

I don't know a single homeschooler that does not take some type of outside class like a sport, music, co-op, or tutor of some type. Even if you hire tutors exclusivly you are still homeschooling. It just may not be the syle of homeschool you or I use, but it is still homeschooling.
post #37 of 41
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Originally Posted by mama_kass
Even if you hire tutors exclusivly you are still homeschooling. It just may not be the syle of homeschool you or I use, but it is still homeschooling.
I dont know...this may be a terribly unpopular opinion, but I respectfully disagree.

When someone hires tutors for everything - and they aren't unschooling or teaching their child in any way - then I would consider them really to have their child in a private school. Homeschooling may be a legal status they use, but if they truly are not involved in the education themselves, then it just isn't the same - especially if even the tutor has been chosen by an outside entity - like the 2nd assistant producer (translates to gopher) on a movie.

I'm not saying one is better than another - lots of people think since I have no teaching degree that I am truly unqualified and my kids would be better off with a tutor.

I'm just saying that that person is truly not homeschooling and most likely they wouldn't choose to identify themselves as a homeschooler anyway - except legally.

Best wishes,

Lucie
post #38 of 41
Slightly off topic: being an Ethiopian girl does NOT = no education. I have been to Ethiopia, my DS was born in Ethiopia. Now I will admit that I only visited Ethiopia's capitol, Addis Ababa, and I don't know what the situation is in other cities or rural areas. However, not only did I observe TONS of kids (appeared to be equal numbers of boys and girls) going to school, I also talked to people about the education available. The poorest of the poor did not attend school. However, there are public schools, and if parents can afford to buy a school uniform and books (perhaps a small amount for tuition), their kids go to public school. If they can afford it, parents will send their kids to private schools because public education is viewed as inferior. Quite often, especially for younger kids, school is half-day. Younger kids go in the morning, older kids go in the afternoon. School there is mostly about rote memorization. However, in high school (which many kids don't attend), most if not all classes are taught in English. There appeared to be somewhat of a generational gap- older women were not as well educated, but I spoke with some women in their 30s who were lower class by Ethiopian standards, but still spoke English.

That said, kudos to Brangelina if they decide to homeschool their kids.

And ITA about the Smiths. I have yet to find out something about that couple I DON'T like. They just seem to be good people, kwim?
post #39 of 41
Thread Starter 
Yeah, what Angelina was talking about was the fact that Zahara was in an orphanage and I guess the odds of completing school are pretty low for children who grow up in orphanages in Ethiopia. I had originally read or see the interview that the quote came from and that was the general context of it.

As for celebrity homeschoolers, I don't care to emulate what celebrities do, but they do tend to be trendsetters, meaning if celebrities start doing it, more of the masses will often consider doing it, too. I hear that some homeschool children get teased by institutionally schooled kids (we haven't had that happen yet, my public schooled nephew wishes that he could homeschool) and if they had a ready set answer, like, "well all of these celebrities were or do homeschool....", it might be a helpful comeback.

As for whether having tutors is really being homeschooled, well, that's a complex issue. I think it also depends on whether or not EVERY single subject is led by the tutor/teacher. Personally, I wonder if "virtual school" is really homeschool, seeing as the child is still in the school system and is learning someone else's curriculum, but this is a diverse forum and I think it's great if EVERYONE chooses their own way to go about it.
post #40 of 41
Wynonna homeschools her children- herself. She wrote about it in her book, saying how she loved it and how it worked so well for them.
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