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post #1 of 23
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In a fit of frustration (your own and theirs) overtiredness, hunger induced frustration, crying infant falling out of your arms, two preschoolers on the edge of meltdown, who won't leave the park and load into the car, you say, "fine, mommy's going then". Not, "I'm leaving without you" but "see me? I'm packing up the car and I am hungry and tired and I'm going home"? Usually my kids don't give a hoot. Very secure kids who would be like, "ok mom, see you later!" :

Inevitably, I end up just hauling their biscuits off the playground and putting screaming, flailing kids into the car for a miserable but blessedly short ride home.

Yes, I know ALL of the circumstances that lead to this could have been avoided with proper planning but sometimes you can't plan for everything and I've been caught with my drawers down unprepared to fight the pending meltdowns many times.

So, you mess up. I usually will get home, get everyone settled, diaper changes, baby feeding, lunches, hand and face washings, potty and then finally sit on the couch before nap. I will usually apologize to them because I know their meltdowns were MY fault. I put them in a situation they couldn't possibly be expected to handle and I'm sorry for that.

Am I the world's worst mom because I say the wrong thing? I'm not always at my best and it would seem that when I'm at my worst, so are they.

I'm sitting here thinking that a parent who spanks or beats could use the same "excuse" so now I feel like an ass. Abusers never MEAN to hurt the ones they love right?

Dang, this parenting thing is hard.
post #2 of 23


Yup, totally normal. I've had moments like that too. I've done and said some pretty "un GD" things in the heat of anger.

The main difference between "good mamas having a bad day" and "abusive mamas" is that the "good mamas" recognize what we did "wrong", apologize for our bad behavior, and make a sincere effort to avoid a similar situation in the future. Abusive people think that they can do no wrong and blame others for their behavior. "If you'd listened I wouldn't have had to yell at you" vs "I'm sorry I lost my temper and yelled. I got so mad when you didn't pick up your toys that I forgot to use my gentle voice."

I figure I'm modeling for my children that nobody's perfect and it's OK to admit when you make a mistake.
post #3 of 23
I think you are taking too much credit for a hard situation. I'm not sure I see anything at all that you did wrong. Hungry tired kids need to go home and have their needs met. You hauled them home and met their needs. Good job!

A couple things -- kids need warnings about leaving. I do 10, 5, and 2 minute warnings. If my kids want to negotiate about staying longer then they need to make that effort at the 10 min. warning point. "Mom, I really think we should try to spend more time here today because........." whatever their argument is. But a tantrum at the departure point is unfair all around, and I will not be swayed by it! I am very careful and deliberate about the limits that I set. But when I set them, I follow through.

So yes -- when announcing that its time to leave fails, and when a playful approach fails, then I pick them up and walk out. Time to go means time to go. But you know what -- I only had to do that about twice. Now they know.

And its not abusive -- its unfair to let children learn to ignore the needs of the family and drag out a planned departure time by running away or whatever. Its not fair to let them get more hungry, tired and disagreeable by the minute while you try to pursuade them. There are FIVE kids in your crowd. Everyone's needs matter - as long as they know the plan, and they have fair warning, then I think picking up and leaving when things start to disintigrate is one of the better things that you can do.
post #4 of 23
We all make mistakes. If I held it against myself, every time I made a huge horrible mistake with ds, I'd probably go crazy :
No, but I really do think that you have to let go of stuff if you want to learn from it, get past it, and do better next time. What happened, happened. Just try to figure out a better way to deal with it next time.
This past couple weeks I've been horribly frustrated, and ds has shown me time and time again just how good he is at NOT holding a grudge I think if your dc have a solid foundation (and it sounds like they do), they'll come out of that situation no worse for the wear. They'll also know that everyone makes mistakes, and you just gotta try to make it better.

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Originally Posted by SoggyGranolaMomma
I'm sitting here thinking that a parent who spanks or beats could use the same "excuse" so now I feel like an ass. Abusers never MEAN to hurt the ones they love right?

Dang, this parenting thing is hard.
I don't think you can think like that. I've gone there a lot of times, with a lot of things. I don't think its comparable. kwim?
post #5 of 23
This runs through my mind all the time, and I only have 1, let alone 5!

We're not perfect, we're not robots, we're human. I think that part of good parenting includes showing our mistakes and demonstrating how we deal with them. Our kids need models for how to deal with their anger, frustration, screw-ups, and if they don't get it from us, where are they going to get them? If we're perfect all the time, our kids have an impossible standard up to which to live. I think that screwing up IS part of good parenting, if it's followed by healthy ways of making amends!

I'm reading Connection Parenting by Pam Leo right now and she say in there--and I love this--that good parenting most of the time makes up for the times when we screw up. Kids who are loved and know they are, who are not manipulated, who have deep connections to their caregivers, and who are used to getting their needs met rebound to the periodic mommy meltdown quickly, because they are so secure.
post #6 of 23
Quote:
Originally Posted by SoggyGranolaMomma
In a fit of frustration (your own and theirs) overtiredness, hunger induced frustration, crying infant falling out of your arms, two preschoolers on the edge of meltdown, who won't leave the park and load into the car, you say, "fine, mommy's going then". Not, "I'm leaving without you" but "see me? I'm packing up the car and I am hungry and tired and I'm going home"? Usually my kids don't give a hoot. Very secure kids who would be like, "ok mom, see you later!" :

Inevitably, I end up just hauling their biscuits off the playground and putting screaming, flailing kids into the car for a miserable but blessedly short ride home.

Yes, I know ALL of the circumstances that lead to this could have been avoided with proper planning but sometimes you can't plan for everything and I've been caught with my drawers down unprepared to fight the pending meltdowns many times.

So, you mess up. I usually will get home, get everyone settled, diaper changes, baby feeding, lunches, hand and face washings, potty and then finally sit on the couch before nap. I will usually apologize to them because I know their meltdowns were MY fault. I put them in a situation they couldn't possibly be expected to handle and I'm sorry for that.

Am I the world's worst mom because I say the wrong thing? I'm not always at my best and it would seem that when I'm at my worst, so are they.

I'm sitting here thinking that a parent who spanks or beats could use the same "excuse" so now I feel like an ass. Abusers never MEAN to hurt the ones they love right?

Dang, this parenting thing is hard.
Ok I guess I am an abuser. Because I have spanked, screamed and yelled. I am suffering from sever depression and afraid to take something for it. I am trying SO HARD not to spank and feel like the WORST mother in the world. So no you are not a bad mom. I want to know how you can control your anger so you do not loose it. I scream and yell when I get mad and I HATE that. I mean I do control it for a LONG time but then I just can't take it anymore.
post #7 of 23
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Originally Posted by IAMINSANE
Ok I guess I am an abuser. Because I have spanked, screamed and yelled. I am suffering from sever depression and afraid to take something for it. I am trying SO HARD not to spank and feel like the WORST mother in the world. So no you are not a bad mom. I want to know how you can control your anger so you do not loose it. I scream and yell when I get mad and I HATE that. I mean I do control it for a LONG time but then I just can't take it anymore.
Cherri, are you recieving support and help from those closest to you at the moment? Have you considered anger management courses? Counselling?

Sorry to hear that you're having such a difficult time.
post #8 of 23
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Originally Posted by SoggyGranolaMomma
.......I put them in a situation they couldn't possibly be expected to handle and I'm sorry for that.

Am I the world's worst mom because I say the wrong thing? I'm not always at my best and it would seem that when I'm at my worst, so are they.

I'm sitting here thinking that a parent who spanks or beats could use the same "excuse" so now I feel like an ass. Abusers never MEAN to hurt the ones they love right?

Dang, this parenting thing is hard.
Girl, you are hardly the worst mom. And I just finished writing about the fact that since some moms use definitions of behaviors that tend to exclude their kids from being catagorized as experiencing the same drama the rest of our kids are going through-- it makes some moms look like they have it all down pat, while other moms are failures. : Don't buy it. We're all human here, and nobody is perfect all the time. Our kids are growing and present new and unexpected challenges almost every day. Who could be prepared for every situation? And as for kids screaming they don't want to leave the playground? What works for some may not work for others. It's not my problem (yet.) But I think for some kids, all the preparation in the world would not be enough to make them leave a playground in peace. And besides, you can't be expected to be prepared for everything....YOU ARE LIVING A REAL LIFE, NOT ONE WHERE YOU'VE HAD DRESS REHERSALS! l

Cut yourself some slack. Tomorrow's another day!

Faith
post #9 of 23
Quote:
Originally Posted by IAMINSANE
Ok I guess I am an abuser. Because I have spanked, screamed and yelled. I am suffering from sever depression and afraid to take something for it. I am trying SO HARD not to spank and feel like the WORST mother in the world. So no you are not a bad mom. I want to know how you can control your anger so you do not loose it. I scream and yell when I get mad and I HATE that. I mean I do control it for a LONG time but then I just can't take it anymore.
May I reccomend the book Screamfree Parenting??? It's about developing self-control, more than controlling the child. It can really help you change your perspective on your children's behaviors and what pushes your buttons. And not only your children, but anybody and anything in your life!

Good luck. Don't put yourself down too much. You realize that something is wrong, and you are seeking answers. I hope you allow all of this to become a time of important growth and healthiness for both you and your entire family.

Faith
(And get you to a really good and sympathetic therapist already!!! Some good talk and some medicine can do a world of wonders. I know! I wish I could get you to my therapist! LOL! It took a long time to find him, but he was worth the wait. He 1) convinced me that I'm not insane, but that my problems are very real and stressful, and 2) he just gives great advice!)
post #10 of 23
Soggygranolamomma....after occaissions like that, I get us all fed and then I say "there, isn't that better?" and we have a big cuddle....mommy's have meltdowns too....we are human...

On the depression issue/anger control issue....I have had a hard time learning to "control" reinterpret, better express my "anger" or feelings...and I have found a lot of help in EFT...I have to say my problems originate out of unrealistic expectations of children...particularly my own, and a lack of patience and EFT has helped tremendously with that...it is totally med free....you can read about it at www.emo-free.com.

Sus
post #11 of 23
It happens to all of us! We do stuff we wish we hadn't and then beat ourselves up!

I just try to apologize to my kids, talk about what went wrong and how we can work on that not happening for next time.

I think it's a good thing for our kids to see us acknowlege mistakes and work on fixing them.

Don't beat yourself up....think of it as a learning experience!
post #12 of 23
Everyone screws up. I do. I just apologize and move on. That is all we can do. Sometimes even the best-laid plans go up in smoke. If I beat myself up over it every time, I would be miserable. I think it is great for kids to see that adults make mistakes and what they do to try and fix them.
post #13 of 23
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I'm reading Connection Parenting by Pam Leo right now and she say in there--and I love this--that good parenting most of the time makes up for the times when we screw up. Kids who are loved and know they are, who are not manipulated, who have deep connections to their caregivers, and who are used to getting their needs met rebound to the periodic mommy meltdown quickly, because they are so secure.
Oh thank you so much for this quote. I came here to write a post similar to the OP. It got U-G-L-Y here this morning. I put my 26 m.o. in time out twice...which I have never done before and I totally didn't even know how to do it...it was basically just get away from me before I totally lose my crap even more than I am now. Yuck. Now that they are both sleeping and I am feeling slightly more sane I can see what I did "wrong" leading up to her (and my) meltdowns and how I could have handled things better.

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The main difference between "good mamas having a bad day" and "abusive mamas" is that the "good mamas" recognize what we did "wrong", apologize for our bad behavior, and make a sincere effort to avoid a similar situation in the future. Abusive people think that they can do no wrong and blame others for their behavior. "If you'd listened I wouldn't have had to yell at you" vs "I'm sorry I lost my temper and yelled. I got so mad when you didn't pick up your toys that I forgot to use my gentle voice."
Thanks for this Ruth!!
post #14 of 23
Everybody has bad days. Be understanding and forgiving with yourself. It's good for our kids to see us make mistakes and then apologize, learn from those mistakes and try to do better next time.
post #15 of 23
Forgive yourself, just as you forgive your children for melting down.

IAMINSANE wrote:
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I scream and yell when I get mad and I HATE that. I mean I do control it for a LONG time but then I just can't take it anymore.
When you "control it", are you doing that by gritting your teeth and not doing/saying ANYTHING about what's bothering you? I have found (although for some reason I have to keep reminding myself ) that if I do that, when I finally do take action I am almost certain to scream and yell and also to feel absolutely no empathy for the person I'm mad at. I feel like I've been so "good" by holding it in all this time that now I can't be expected to handle it well because it's just too much too much more than anyone can bear, and that's so obvious to me that I just can't see anyone else's point of view, nor can I be bothered to care because it's about time someone listened to ME for a change!!! So the trick is to avoid getting to that point by taking a positive action much earlier. For me that can be difficult because speaking up early feels wrong, like I'm "always complaining" or "making a big deal out of nothing" or other criticisms that tend to crop up inside my head...but really it's much better for everyone if I do something gentle while I still can.
post #16 of 23
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Originally Posted by Ruthla


Yup, totally normal. I've had moments like that too. I've done and said some pretty "un GD" things in the heat of anger.

The main difference between "good mamas having a bad day" and "abusive mamas" is that the "good mamas" recognize what we did "wrong", apologize for our bad behavior, and make a sincere effort to avoid a similar situation in the future. Abusive people think that they can do no wrong and blame others for their behavior. "If you'd listened I wouldn't have had to yell at you" vs "I'm sorry I lost my temper and yelled. I got so mad when you didn't pick up your toys that I forgot to use my gentle voice."

I figure I'm modeling for my children that nobody's perfect and it's OK to admit when you make a mistake.
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Needs to be reapeated
post #17 of 23
You are not a bad mom! I have those SAME moments with DS and there have been times when tears are streaming down my face pleading with DS to:

Please get in the car DS so you and Mommy can go home.

I have a very *spirited* little boy who is very strong willed and I have to plead with him and pull toys and prizes out of my purse to move forward to the next step.

I have to keep a purse full of Hotwheels cars
post #18 of 23
You are doing exactly what you should do: You acknowledge a mistake, learn how you can do better next time, and then move on. You have to move past the guilt, because it can cause you to make really bad parenting choices.
post #19 of 23
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Originally Posted by Imogen
Cherri, are you recieving support and help from those closest to you at the moment? Have you considered anger management courses? Counselling?

Sorry to hear that you're having such a difficult time.


Well sometimes but most of the time I am by myself. I am taking a parenting course and going to counseling. I am at a loss. I also am in a sever depression and trying to get it under control and when I do I think that will help alot.I have never been depressed before so I thought I was going crazy till I found out what it was.
post #20 of 23
Well I have to say I ALWAYS apologize to my son when I feel I have messed up. I tell him that I ALWAYS love him even when mommy is mad and that I will try to do better next time. I am trying to learn who to calm down and catch things before I blow up. It is hard I am so overly sensitive right now. Thank you for all you suggestions though. I try to make mental notes and remember them.
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